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  • King_Suckerman
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-12-09
    • 945

    #36
    Originally posted by NEW_WORLD
    it's curious, why open accounts in bookies like marathon etc when there are bookies like pinny and sbobet?
    ....
    ..because the odds are often better than pinny and sbo. May as well take them while you can get money on.
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    • lecubs28
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-17-11
      • 638

      #37
      have marathonbet and panbet merged now? i wanted to set up a panbet account but when i type in panbet.ru or panbet.com, it just takes me to marathonbet
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      • HeeeHAWWWW
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-13-08
        • 5487

        #38
        Panbet became marathonbet.co.uk , but that's still separate from marathonbet.com
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        • filipinho
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-11-12
          • 358

          #39
          Originally posted by lecubs28
          have marathonbet and panbet merged now? i wanted to set up a panbet account but when i type in panbet.ru or panbet.com, it just takes me to marathonbet
          Mail old few weeks which explains:


          Dear Customer,

          Panbet is changing! For some months we have been preparing to rename ourselves, and on 1st October we will become Marathon. Marathon is an established (1997) and successful online sportsbook brand. The change will allow us to offer you better prices, better products and better customer service.

          The rebranding will bring a new web address, Marathonbet.co.uk , where you will still be able to access all of our usual features and some of the best value in online gaming. Depending upon your location you will still be able to access our Casino and Gaming products.

          There will be no disruption to service. You will not need to register again and your login details and account balances will be unaffected. If you have any questions, click on Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), or let our Customer Care team know, they are on hand to assist.

          Thank you and good luck!

          Marathon
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          • bigballa
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-18-12
            • 429

            #40
            Great book!

            Limits are very low as others have said, will be extra low for the more obscure sports (table tennis, bandy, squash) max you will get on them sports will likely be 50-100....if your a winner which i hope you all are :-) the limits wont last long, i have had a few accounts there and i have noticed recently they are especially quick to get rid of winners..... the first limit will usually be half of whatever you were to start....then half of that then a full resctriction will be 1.00 euro(whatever currency your account is in)

            very wise book though, i like to bet from my phone but have found that they have the ability to link accounts and 'auto cut' so if your cut to 1.00 euro as i said and your friend uses your phone to place a bet once he logs in his account will be restricted to 1.00 as well....other books have this feature but dont apply it at the moment, just a heads up for you all if anyone lose their first account and opens more, you will need to get a new 'clean' phone.....i would assume this is the same for computers as well.....

            would definatly recommend this book though, limits are low but the selection is endless, especially inplay.
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            • seljak
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-13-11
              • 143

              #41
              Better odds
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              • tudes7
                SBR Hustler
                • 10-29-10
                • 57

                #42
                If you are a winner n know what betting is about, you will have limits of 5€. They will pay you but your happy days are limited there.
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                • antemartic
                  Restricted User
                  • 05-22-10
                  • 1

                  #43
                  crap

                  This marathonbet is funny bookmaker. They realy have best ods on many markets but their limit is redicilus. First they limited volleyball then hockey, then player performance in basketball then tennis every where where you won just one bet. I had yesteray limit 32 euro on murray vs dimitrov tie break in match. Odds was 3 and I wager 30. today for all matches tie break in match is 1.66 limit. They limit you in some markets just after one bet. I contact them about this and told I never played arbs why they do this. Operator told me their traders decide about limits. I did't place bet at marathon 2000-3000 euros. My stakes are allways from 20 to 100 and after 2 weeks I can wager only on major european soccer leagues and nba. All other are lower then 5 but most of them are 1.
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                  • Dunderfisk
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 12-19-09
                    • 82

                    #44
                    If you want to bet max 1 euro every second hour. Then this is the bookie for you.
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                    • ouzoun
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-21-12
                      • 322

                      #45
                      There is load of info about marathon here: http://arbusers.com/index.php/topic,375.0.html
                      From what i see, Marathon was arber's paradise for a while. It seems that now they are more cautious but some people find space for good edgy action.
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                      • caveira
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-07-11
                        • 532

                        #46
                        Originally posted by ouzoun
                        There is load of info about marathon here: http://arbusers.com/index.php/topic,375.0.html
                        From what i see, Marathon was arber's paradise for a while. It seems that now they are more cautious but some people find space for good edgy action.
                        They are limiting really really fast nowadays.
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                        • Bleeth
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-10-11
                          • 129

                          #47
                          Limited to peanuts after 1 (one) 100 EUR bet (and it was a losing one too), these are the kind of thineURgs you just can't believe until you experience them yourself. Another bet and i'll probably be limited to something like 0.65 EUR.
                          Last edited by Bleeth; 02-25-13, 06:47 AM.
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                          • Jaug
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-11-09
                            • 3087

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Bleeth
                            Limited to peanuts after 1 (one) 100 EUR bet (and it was a losing one too), these are the kind of thineURgs you just can't believe until you experience them yourself. Another bet and i'll probably be limited to something like 0.65 EUR.
                            Really?

                            I am thinking about opening an account on marathon. The odds seem nice. Anyone had problem getting payout?
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                            • Sawyer
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-01-09
                              • 7744

                              #49
                              They limit fukkin fast. Nothing but a waste of time. Useful only for your first 2 bets, lol.
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                              • caveira
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-07-11
                                • 532

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Jaug
                                Really?

                                I am thinking about opening an account on marathon. The odds seem nice. Anyone had problem getting payout?
                                Nope, they pay really really fast, if you withdraw by NT/MB, your money comes in 5 minutes or less.
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                                • BaggioFan
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 10-24-12
                                  • 33

                                  #51
                                  they r great. don't bet steam and you won't be limited
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                                  • ElCartofor
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 11-12-12
                                    • 38

                                    #52
                                    Marathon is real, but do not be fouled, they are not sharp, they are very sharp! (I belive their odds department is better then that of Pinny's)

                                    They offer best odds in the business, instant automatic payouts(after verification), but under average live chat.

                                    Their limits are getting bigger the closer the start of the event is(as they received more and more volume). Their limits for each player are a result of their overall limit for a given outcome. It dosen't matter how you bet, they only care about math. For example, if they have an overall starting $100k limit for the outcome "TEAM A" to win(that limit is splited among all bettors), if they do not receive bets on the outcome "TEAM B" to win, once the $100k limit is hit, you end up with the limit of $1.3 for outcome "TEAM A" to win. In this case, you will find that the limit on "TEAM B" to win is very high and so on. The more "spreaded" volume there is for a given market, the bigger the limits they can offer are.

                                    Although they have the best odds overall, on the long run, you will still end up losing money, thats how good their traders are. I belive they have insane odds calculating algorithms, since they still win money while giving you best odds in business.(or they have the "right connections")

                                    I am with them for like 5 months now and their limits are slowly getting bigger and bigger as they atract more volume of play. I said "slowly"

                                    It is my belief that they do not care how someone bets, they only care about what odds and limits they are offering. I think the odds they are offering are based on the probability of the given outcome and that the limits are imposed considering standard deviations and volume of betting for a given market.

                                    As a man of science I can only respect their sharpness regarding the calculation of probabilities. As a bettor, I disrespect how they treat the support and communication aspects.
                                    Last edited by ElCartofor; 03-08-13, 07:40 PM.
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                                    • caveira
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-07-11
                                      • 532

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ElCartofor
                                      Marathon is real, but do not be fouled, they are not sharp, they are very sharp! (I belive their odds department is better then that of Pinny's)

                                      They offer best odds in the business, instant automatic payouts(after verification), but under average live chat.

                                      Their limits are getting bigger the closer the start of the event is(as they received more and more volume). Their limits for each player are a result of their overall limit for a given outcome. It dosen't matter how you bet, they only care about math. For example, if they have an overall starting $100k limit for the outcome "TEAM A" to win(that limit is splited among all bettors), if they do not receive bets on the outcome "TEAM B" to win, once the $100k limit is hit, you end up with the limit of $1.3 for outcome "TEAM A" to win. In this case, you will find that the limit on "TEAM B" to win is very high and so on. The more "spreaded" volume there is for a given market, the bigger the limits they can offer are.

                                      Although they have the best odds overall, on the long run, you will still end up losing money, thats how good their traders are. I belive they have insane odds calculating algorithms, since they still win money while giving you best odds in business.(or they have the "right connections")

                                      I am with them for like 5 months now and their limits are slowly getting bigger and bigger as they atract more volume of play. I said "slowly"

                                      It is my belief that they do not care how someone bets, they only care about what odds and limits they are offering. I think the odds they are offering are based on the probability of the given outcome and that the limits are imposed considering standard deviations and volume of betting for a given market.

                                      As a man of science I can only respect their sharpness regarding the calculation of probabilities. As a bettor, I disrespect how they treat the support and communication aspects.
                                      They offer the best odds in business, but i am not so sure about their sharp lines. When some odd dropp at Pinnacle, almost instantly it dropps at asians and befair too, Marathon has a little delay and with their great odds, any changes at pinny creates a big arbitrage opportunity. That's the reason for low limits, if you check any arb service, you will see that 8 of 10 arbs has Marathon + another sportsbook. I am an arber and until now (about 400-450 arbs), my balance is so positive there.
                                      Just my point, sorry for any english mistake.
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                                      • wakefield23
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 03-08-13
                                        • 179

                                        #54
                                        It´s a top 5 in my book. The odds are just great and they make fast payments .There is no bonus, that´s the only flaw I can find.
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                                        • dikefale
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-20-10
                                          • 1017

                                          #55
                                          Yes they dont offer bonuses,but their odds beat pinnacle. They are much better then pinnacle now. They have huge market and everything possible for parlay. Fast payouts same as pinnacle.
                                          Pinnacle need to step up.Many russian books have very low juice,they are taking over the market.
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                                          • Jaug
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-11-09
                                            • 3087

                                            #56
                                            Thanks for info guys. Just placed my first bet at marathon, hope to use pinny + marathon + either sbo or 188
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                                            • ElCartofor
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 11-12-12
                                              • 38

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by caveira
                                              They offer the best odds in business, but i am not so sure about their sharp lines. When some odd dropp at Pinnacle, almost instantly it dropps at asians and befair too, Marathon has a little delay...
                                              When I said "sharp" I was not reffering to how fast they are in changing their odds(maybe they do not line up their odds with other bookies cause they want more action on the given odd, and they know that the probability of the given event to happen compared to the odd they are offering will bring them profit in time). I ment that their odds department has great probability calculating algorithms.
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                                              • dikefale
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-20-10
                                                • 1017

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by ElCartofor
                                                When I said "sharp" I was not reffering to how fast they are in changing their odds(maybe they do not line up their odds with other bookies cause they want more action on the given odd, and they know that the probability of the given event to happen compared to the odd they are offering will bring them profit in time). I ment that their odds department has great probability calculating algorithms.
                                                It does look like they rely on their own linemakers.
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                                                • Joey Zaza
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 03-28-11
                                                  • 47

                                                  #59
                                                  Stay away from Marathonbet!


                                                  It's a scam. They have the best market prices and stand out on all the odds comparison sites, but they don't take bets. Account will be limited to pennies after a couple of bets.


                                                  Had 4 bets, 3 lost… I'm not an arber but the max I can bet on any tennis match now is about €20. Utterly pathetic!
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                                                  • Jaug
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-11-09
                                                    • 3087

                                                    #60
                                                    No problem for me so far. placed about 10 bets and in the green. Major markets though, like NBA NHL. Would surprise me if they limit.
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                                                    • Bleeth
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 10-10-11
                                                      • 129

                                                      #61
                                                      6 bets made , little more than 200 EUR staked, all 6 lost, and i'm limited to 2-5 EUR on most markets i'm interested in. For god sake i'm obviously not a big time gambler and i don't need limits in thousands, 50 would be acceptable, but no, we only like people who bet @2.00 when everybody else has it @2.30. Why the hell would anyone do that. It's a common sense to bet only the best price you can get.
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                                                      • King_Suckerman
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 04-12-09
                                                        • 945

                                                        #62
                                                        Great book until they limit you.
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                                                        • Jaug
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-11-09
                                                          • 3087

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Bleeth
                                                          6 bets made , little more than 200 EUR staked, all 6 lost, and i'm limited to 2-5 EUR on most markets i'm interested in. For god sake i'm obviously not a big time gambler and i don't need limits in thousands, 50 would be acceptable, but no, we only like people who bet @2.00 when everybody else has it @2.30. Why the hell would anyone do that. It's a common sense to bet only the best price you can get.
                                                          What is you limit on NBA handicaps? Major soccer leagues like serie A, premier league?
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                                                          • Bleeth
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 10-10-11
                                                            • 129

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Jaug
                                                            What is you limit on NBA handicaps? Major soccer leagues like serie A, premier league?
                                                            Less than a hundred EUR on Serie A and Premier League (and i remember the other day my max bet for Tottenham AH(0) (vs. Arsenal) was more than 3000 (and that was at least 5 days before the match). On NBA i have around 300, but that doesn't help me a lot 'cause NBA is a rare guest on my tickets. I mostly bet tennis, volleyball, handball, EURO basketball, wintersports and some ice hockey (rarely NHL) and soccer (but rarely Premier league 'cause i find it too hard to find a value there) . I mean i would understand that an US oriented bookie would limit me like this on these sports, but Marathonbet is a Russian bookie and all these sports are fairly popular there so limiting me to something like 1/30 of my initial limit after 6 (20-100EUR) bets (and all lost) is just unacceptable.
                                                            Last edited by Bleeth; 03-10-13, 06:25 PM.
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                                                            • Jaug
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-11-09
                                                              • 3087

                                                              #65
                                                              Im now officially limited to 40 euro on NBA spread. It was fun Marathon :P
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                                                              • Jaug
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-11-09
                                                                • 3087

                                                                #66
                                                                0 arb bets.
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                                                                • billyuk
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 03-18-13
                                                                  • 4

                                                                  #67
                                                                  The thing is if they didnt limit people then they wouldnt be able to offer good prices they would just go bankrupt. So it is either bad prices no limits or good prices and limits. i dont see how it could be any other way.
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                                                                  • kalimero
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-20-13
                                                                    • 1

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Hi

                                                                    I just registered here because of the complaint against MB. Withdrawal issue of a lousy 123 € (lousy for them). I'm a really small player, one or two digits €, never reaching already low limits. I have been a member for about 4 months, and never had the problem with anything, and I also liked the communication flow when I was chaging my CC (because they allow only one and I was making a new one).

                                                                    After a request for a withdrawal, it passed almost a month and they still haven't payed me!
                                                                    The communication with support was very awkward. They told me it would pass 3-5 working days, and after 10 days that they have a minor delay with some ABR (financial term, totally irrelevant) number in their(!) bank and that they seek my patience (!) and apologize.
                                                                    Today I have found my MB balance refunded for the withdrawn amount. Yes, not my bank account but my MB account. So I wrote my complaint to SBR for another time.
                                                                    I only know that I should have complainted earlier.

                                                                    Let me say again, I am not a big player, but I surely woudn't reccomend MB to anyone anymore.
                                                                    Last edited by kalimero; 03-20-13, 04:52 PM.
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                                                                    • thor123
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 03-21-13
                                                                      • 1

                                                                      #69
                                                                      i was limited now on soccer and tenis(i don bet on other sport) to 1-5eur max bet
                                                                      they are great in wihdraw on e wallet it came for 3minute
                                                                      funny bookie -100 points
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                                                                      • Bleeth
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 10-10-11
                                                                        • 129

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Just a warning for anyone thinking of arbing them , beside severely limiting you which i guess is their legit right they have a slimy habit of showing one max bet (like let's say 200 bucks) and when you actually try to place a bet they change it to something like 4.45 bucks. I mean WTF ? That is just low. It does happen at other bookies from time to time but here it's almost like a rule.
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