US players with Pinnacle accounts......Look

**pellumb341** · 03-21-12, 04:55 PM

This guy should be banned.

I don't play with cheating books.

Cheating players outnumber cheating books by a factor of about 1M to one

Have you read everything i have written or just a part ? I am not part of the people who cheat , i am just supporting people who cheat because as i have written above bookies are the first who cheat use ...

can you respond to my question above . IF i do that (pinnacle example) ,will they give me back money ??

**Hareeba!** · 03-21-12, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by pellumb341

Have you read everything i have written or just a part ? I am not part of the people who cheat , i am just supporting people who cheat because as i have written above bookies are the first who cheat use ...

can you respond to my question above . IF i do that (pinnacle example) ,will they give me back money ??

sorry mate
by "This guy ..." I was referring to Avscum, not you.

re your Pinnacle question:
firstly, as I understand it you can't log in from within the US
but if you managed to use a VPN or whatever successfully and they discovered it I suspect they would void any bets, close your account and refund your balance.
Pinnacle play by the book. They are not cheats and don't tolerate those attempting to cheat them. I have no problem with that.

**Avskum** · 03-21-12, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by tickmagnet

How can you cheat them? they post lines , you bet and if you win , you win.

There is may ways brother =)

**pellumb341** · 03-22-12, 07:30 AM

sorry mate
by "This guy ..." I was referring to Avscum, not you.

re your Pinnacle question:
firstly, as I understand it you can't log in from within the US
but if you managed to use a VPN or whatever successfully and they discovered it I suspect they would void any bets, close your account and refund your balance.
Pinnacle play by the book. They are not cheats and don't tolerate those attempting to cheat them. I have no problem with that.

I support Avskum ... why is he committing fraud ? Because he is using his friend's accounts ? What is wrong here ??? If i use my brother's account or my father's account ,am i committing fraud too ????

Let's forget pinnacle ...
I live in X country and want to use Y book , but X is a restricted country ...For a specific reason i want to use Y , but i am not allowed ... A friend of mine lives(study) in Z country , which is allowed to play at Y book ... I set up an account using his name ...where is the fraud here ?? I am not stealing any ID ...

next step ... IF my bankroll goes from 1k to 5k and they catch me , they will confiscate my winnings !
If my bankroll goes from 1k to 50 ,they don't want to catch me (because i have lost ) , so i tell them that i am using my friend account ....Will they void everything and give me back my deposit 1 k ???? NO they will not ....what i mean is that bookies use 2 standards ,they should use only 1 standard ...that's why i am saying that they are the first who cheat us

**Avskum** · 03-22-12, 11:47 AM

well where I live you can actually use most of the books so im not even "cheating" to look like im in another country. I just hide who is betting with the account. And honestly I dont feel like im cheating, they offer bets, I place them in away that cant lose, so its their service that has a leak. Not my fault right ?

**Avskum** · 03-22-12, 02:31 PM

Deleted* Double post

**assange58** · 11-13-12, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Don't come on here asking for help in how to cheat.

It's characters like you who make it tougher for genuine players.

Get over yourself. Its not cheating. The idiots in the US Congress bungled it for everyone & for no godd*mn reason except to interfere in our lives. Small gov't my ass.

I say if Americans can get into pinnacle or Betfair etc, KUDOS to them! I would gladly do it if the opportunity arose. Or maybe it alreadt has...

**assange58** · 11-13-12, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Pinnacle play by the book. They are not cheats and don't tolerate those attempting to cheat them. I have no problem with that.

No one is trying to cheat them, genius! Christ, your intelligence level is through the roof. You are clearly one of those who says "if theres a rule I gotta follow it, no how stupid illogical impractical burdensome or meaningless it is." Perfect example of sheeple

**allin1** · 11-13-12, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Betfair and Pinnacle at least will detect where you are.

I don't know enough about the VPN issue but I'd be very wary. I'm aware of some Betfair customers who thought they had masked their true location, were caught out and had their accounts closed.

interesting

**Monte** · 11-13-12, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by allin1

interesting

Yea...if you really have no clue about how IP stuff works.
I have seen gaming forums unmask hidden IPs, anyone who thinks sportsbooks don't have that little piece of software or knowledge needed to do that, is a newbie.

**allin1** · 11-14-12, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Monte

Yea...if you really have no clue about how IP stuff works.
I have seen gaming forums unmask hidden IPs, anyone who thinks sportsbooks don't have that little piece of software or knowledge needed to do that, is a newbie.

I am definitely a newbie when it comes to ips and stuff like that. I have no idea how these things work.

Is that little piece of software expensive? I would love to unmask an ip that hacked my email account.