Heritage Sportsbook making big moves. Feedback wanted

[70kgman]

Has anyone done a book to book transfer from Heritage to 5Dimes? Did they require paperwork and ID and all that to process it?

[Scooter]

When I go to www.heritagesports.com now, it takes me to a login page with no other option.
No Live Chat, no links with any information of any kind.
It does list a phone number, and there is a tiny message at the bottom of the page with an email addy.
There's a photo of 50's looking Playboy bunnies.


Tried the address a 2nd time, and same basic page but with a photo of a bank vault this time, and a quote by Jimmy "the Sportsbook Quote Whore Shill" Vaccaro.

Was this always the Home Page?
Or is this the new site?

[Scooter]

"18. Accounts with aggregate winnings of more than $5,000 are considered to be playing on 'house money' Customers deemed to be playing with 'house money' are not eligible for the "once per 30 day Free Payout".

Nice.

[ProfaneReality]

get rid of the 30 cent quarter lines for football

[John Dough]

"18. Accounts with aggregate winnings of more than $5,000 are considered to be playing on 'house money' Customers deemed to be playing with 'house money' are not eligible for the "once per 30 day Free Payout".

Nice.

Where is this info from?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. Very disappointing. Hope they consider doing away with this.

[Scooter]

Where is this info from?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. Very disappointing. Hope they consider doing away with this.

Others should acquaint themselves with this page:

Bottom of screen once logged in : "House Rules" link.

Some other beauties in there.

The 2nd half of #17 - "Upon signup, each client is required to submit a secondary password used for account changes and withdrawals. This secondary password must be used to change a wagering password or request a withdrawal of funds from his/her account. Should a member give away, share or lose his or her account number and/or password, Heritage Sports will not be held liable for any claims regarding that account."

I was given 2 accounts there, and was never asked to give a secondary password.

House Rules also lists about 6 ways that they feel they have the right to confiscate one's funds.

[Scooter]

Where is this info from?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. Very disappointing. Hope they consider doing away with this.

Looks like 5k could be the "Bye, bye" number.

Perhaps they'll up it a bit now for the Greek customers, or try upping it for awhile.

Shows what their model was at least up till now, as far as the level of betting they were seeking in their "Invitational" customers.

Incidentally - I asked previously in this or another Heritage thread - Has anyone discovered any betting limits yet?
Perhaps I'll start a thread just for that info.

[rm18]

Looks like 5k could be the "Bye, bye" number.

Perhaps they'll up it a bit now for the Greek customers, or try upping it for awhile.

Shows what their model was at least up till now, as far as the level of betting they were seeking in their "Invitational" customers.

Incidentally - I asked previously in this or another Heritage thread - Has anyone discovered any betting limits yet?
Perhaps I'll start a thread just for that info.

Just type in 99999 into the box and you will see your limit

[Scooter]

Just type in 99999 into the box and you will see your limit

It informed me that $14,795,999,999 is more than I have in my account.
Dang - thought I had at least 15 bill in there.

Will try 99,999 next.

[rm18]

#1) Sport : College Football
Selection : TCU 9/2/2011 5:00PM - (PST) Spread -3½ -108 for Game
Risking : 107,998.92 To Win : 99,999.00 USD

A maximum wager amount of 5,000.00 USD is permitted for this wager on the internet.
To wager more, call the Wagering Department.
Please press the continue button, then reduce the risk amount on wager number 1 so it is equal to or below the specified amount.

If the amount entered is already less than the specified limit, check your pending plays for existing wagers on this game. Make sure the accumulated amounts do not exceed the wager limit.

thats what i get

[Scooter]

Thanks rm18.
Will try again.

[Vikings2]

What sportsbooks do transfers with Heritage?

[Scooter]

Here's another great one:

"14. Any customer that is to be deemed betting as part of a syndicate or betting group risks account closure and forfeiture of all account winnings."

So if you are following a popular handicapper/tout, Heritage can seize your deposit and winnings by stating that you are part of a betting group -which you are in this case, you're a part of the Joe Blow handicapper followers.

Likewise if you're chasing steam.
Or if by coincidence you hit a game just when the steam happens to occur on that game.
Bye bye funds. If they feel like it.

Nice.

[RogueScholar]

What sportsbooks do transfers with Heritage?

5Dimes and Bookmaker, according to their CS.

[rm18]

A lot of books and even the fantasy sites have scary rules but most dont real do anything crazy it is weird

[Scooter]

A lot of books and even the fantasy sites have scary rules but most dont real do anything crazy it is weird

No such rules at Pinnacle, the Greek, etc.

"14. Any customer that is to be deemed betting as part of a syndicate or betting group risks account closure and forfeiture of all account winnings."

I've never done business with any book that has Rule #14.
At their will they can call you a member of a syndicate and take your money.

[hhsilver]

is there a possibility of getting them on sbrodds?

[tatommack]

I just made my first deposit today well see how it go's. I hope they are just as good as the Greek.

[TheCentaur]

Live chat is slow at best, and sometimes I guess they getr so backed up they just stop talking to you

[pavyracer]

Who cares how clean is their office or how big are their big screen TV's? You think Joe Smith in Wahoo, Nebraska who has 2 dimes on the Huskers tomorrow cares?

[pimike]

Who cares how clean is their office or how big are their big screen TV's? You think Joe Smith in Wahoo, Nebraska who has 2 dimes on the Huskers tomorrow cares?

No they wouldn't FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Microphone]

Where is this info from?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. Very disappointing. Hope they consider doing away with this.

Wow just saw the fine print. AGREE.

[polishkielbasa10]

what is steam or chasing steam??

[Bill Dozer]

get rid of the 30 cent quarter lines for football

Wasn't BetJamaica also doing -115 on Qs?

[Bill Dozer]

is there a possibility of getting them on sbrodds?

Yes, but having them work on the feed will probably be a few weeks. Right now they are focused on expanding the wagering options for former Greek players and they don't advertise for new players.

[Bill Dozer]

Here's another great one:

"14. Any customer that is to be deemed betting as part of a syndicate or betting group risks account closure and forfeiture of all account winnings."

So if you are following a popular handicapper/tout, Heritage can seize your deposit and winnings by stating that you are part of a betting group -which you are in this case, you're a part of the Joe Blow handicapper followers.

Likewise if you're chasing steam.
Or if by coincidence you hit a game just when the steam happens to occur on that game.
Bye bye funds. If they feel like it.

Nice.

Yea, that's a bad "rule". It reminds me of the SBG scam where the players followed the hot radio tout and SBG stole all their money saying they were under the syndicate rule. The word syndicate is subjective and makes a newbie feel like if he caps a game with a buddy he'll lose his whole bank roll.

But, we can say that in over 10 years Heritage has never confiscated someone's balance or taken money that might have been rightfully won. Even with players who are likely in the wrong, Heritage pays them. They probably don't like this said publicly because they feel it will put a target on them for shot takers but they side with the players.

A lot of books had old rules like this one to deter multiple accts and bonus syndicates but they don't actually apply them without evidence of cheating such as opening 3 accts and taking 3 bonuses and circumventing the limit for the first acct. I think Heritage will take the feedback and get rid of this old school verbage.

[Casperwaits]

I was switched over from Bet Jam and so far have had no problems with their customer service. I wish they had horse racing rebates though. I haven't withdrawn form them yet, so I am not sure how expedient they are in that department. I expect (and hope for) the best.

[cockblocker]

"18. Accounts with aggregate winnings of more than $5,000 are considered to be playing on 'house money' Customers deemed to be playing with 'house money' are not eligible for the "once per 30 day Free Payout".

Nice.

Wonder if they will count the 1,600 I had in my BetJam acct at the time it got transferred as house money?


13. Heritage Sports reserves the right to adjust the limits and/or suspend wagering privileges on any individual account without prior written or verbal notice.

Going to transfer most of my funds to BookMaker and use Heritage for small wagers since its obvious they can't handle someone winning a few grand without panicking.

[macb]

you will be severely limited as well. place is a joke compared to betjam/greek

[Microphone]

"18. Accounts with aggregate winnings of more than $5,000 are considered to be playing on 'house money' Customers deemed to be playing with 'house money' are not eligible for the "once per 30 day Free Payout".

Nice.

Bill,
Do you consider this antiquated verbage as well? And I assume (hate that word) if it sticks that the clock doesn't start ticking until I win $5000 with them and has nothing to do with the balance in my account they inherited from Bet Jamaica?

[mighty maron]

Here it is. I loved the Greek for its safety and that they had a pokerroom (Pokerworld) on the cake network. I would play a lot at Heritage if they had a poker room. They dont so I pass.

[Bill Dozer]

Wonder if they will count the 1,600 I had in my BetJam acct at the time it got transferred as house money?
No it won't.


13. Heritage Sports reserves the right to adjust the limits and/or suspend wagering privileges on any individual account without prior written or verbal notice.

Going to transfer most of my funds to BookMaker and use Heritage for small wagers since its obvious they can't handle someone winning a few grand without panicking.

That rule 13 applies to all sportsbook, written or not.

Bill,
Do you consider this antiquated verbage as well? And I assume (hate that word) if it sticks that the clock doesn't start ticking until I win $5000 with them and has nothing to do with the balance in my account they inherited from Bet Jamaica?

Right, they dont want BetJam guys to come over and then get a new fee they didnt have before. I dont know if they will have free payouts after you whoop up on em. That would be one to ask. My guess is they would pay for the first one and let you know about the subsequent one.

[Bill Dozer]

Yea, that's a bad "rule". It reminds me of the SBG scam where the players followed the hot radio tout and SBG stole all their money saying they were under the syndicate rule. The word syndicate is subjective and makes a newbie feel like if he caps a game with a buddy he'll lose his whole bank roll.

But, we can say that in over 10 years Heritage has never confiscated someone's balance or taken money that might have been rightfully won. Even with players who are likely in the wrong, Heritage pays them. They probably don't like this said publicly because they feel it will put a target on them for shot takers but they side with the players.

A lot of books had old rules like this one to deter multiple accts and bonus syndicates but they don't actually apply them without evidence of cheating such as opening 3 accts and taking 3 bonuses and circumventing the limit for the first acct. I think Heritage will take the feedback and get rid of this old school verbage.

Heritage did say that they are going to get rid of that rule as well as revise some others. They said "of course there are no catch-alls that would lead to your balance getting zeroed out".

[BigDaddy]

Bill

could you ask them to maybe lower the min deposit amount for a bonus

it is $300 right now

betjam players could deposit $50 or more and get bonuses if eligible

just a suggestion

[cockblocker]

That rule 13 applies to all sportsbook, written or not.

If you came from the Greek will they let you win more than other players before limiting you?