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  • IrishStoner
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-23-11
    • 32

    #1086
    Thanks guys i might throw in a few hundie and see from there.
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    • Hareeba!
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 07-01-06
      • 37194

      #1087
      Originally posted by todd73nj
      Im not sure what you were betting, but you can even ask a complete shill like Hareeba, but there were not even lines posted last year on College basketball - they didnt bother. And he will come back and say he doesnt care about NCAA hoops. But they had nothing last year.

      If you are talking about the MB of 3 years ago - different story. But that MB was dead and gone long before the sale.
      why would MB bother with US college sports when by and large the only people interested in them are US residents and in case it has escaped your attention, MB hasn't had any US resident customers for over 8 months
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      • QQPALLADIUM
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-22-10
        • 367

        #1088
        Originally posted by Hareeba!
        why would MB bother with US college sports when by and large the only people interested in them are US residents and in case it has escaped your attention, MB hasn't had any US resident customers for over 8 months

        if it costs mb nothing to put it up why not?...
        sbr
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        • QQPALLADIUM
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-22-10
          • 367

          #1089
          Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
          if it costs mb nothing to put it up why not?...

          funny how hareeba can't answer this query...
          sbr
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          • Hareeba!
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-01-06
            • 37194

            #1090
            Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
            funny how hareeba can't answer this query...
            even funnier coming from someone who makes a point of not answering queries

            I've already well and truly covered that subject in at least one other thread - there are far more pressing things for MB to be attending to than putting up markets with next to zero interest
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            • QQPALLADIUM
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-22-10
              • 367

              #1091
              Originally posted by Hareeba!
              even funnier coming from someone who makes a point of not answering queries

              I've already well and truly covered that subject in at least one other thread - there are far more pressing things for MB to be attending to than putting up markets with next to zero interest

              wow how tough is it to put up a game...some volume equals revenue...no markets equals no revenue...
              sbr
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              • Hareeba!
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-01-06
                • 37194

                #1092
                Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                wow how tough is it to put up a game...some volume equals revenue...no markets equals no revenue...
                for someone who can't play at MB I can't figure why you have so much interest in this non issue over a local sport

                let me know when Betmaker puts up markets for the Sth Africa v Australia Test series (an international event) ... can't be too hard? .. some volume equal some revenue
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                • QQPALLADIUM
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-22-10
                  • 367

                  #1093
                  i can play at mb....

                  i am not a betmaker punter....

                  nice day down under..get out and enjoy it...
                  sbr
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                  • offshoregenius77
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-26-08
                    • 154

                    #1094
                    Originally posted by todd73nj
                    Im not sure what you were betting, but you can even ask a complete shill like Hareeba, but there were not even lines posted last year on College basketball - they didnt bother. And he will come back and say he doesnt care about NCAA hoops. But they had nothing last year.

                    If you are talking about the MB of 3 years ago - different story. But that MB was dead and gone long before the sale.
                    Totally untrue... MB had lines last college hoops season. The lines went up about midnight for overnight betting. Between bases and college hoops (until this summer) a good bit of cake could be made making +100 offers.

                    Betmaker is dead man walking. SAD!!! Such a great parent company....

                    OG
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                    • todd73nj
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-09-08
                      • 824

                      #1095
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!

                      why would MB bother with US college sports when by and large the only people interested in them are US residents and in case it has escaped your attention, MB hasn't had any US resident customers for over 8 months
                      Ah yes, you are right Hareeba. No one but US players must participate to make March the highest handle wagering month every year.

                      Hmm... so if thats really the case - does that make the US the largest betting market in the world?
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                      • todd73nj
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-09-08
                        • 824

                        #1096
                        Originally posted by offshoregenius77

                        Totally untrue... MB had lines last college hoops season. The lines went up about midnight for overnight betting. Between bases and college hoops (until this summer) a good bit of cake could be made making +100 offers.

                        Betmaker is dead man walking. SAD!!! Such a great parent company....

                        OG
                        Even Hareeba can tell you that MB had no college BB market maker last season. For the tournament, there werent even any bids. I have posted screen shots of this in prior messages. Hareeba even saw that and responded by saying he didnt care about college basketball bec he had no explanation
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                        • losemyloot
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-26-11
                          • 697

                          #1097
                          Looking to add a book as a US player and was wondering if betmaker is a better out than Betislands?
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                          • offshoregenius77
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 05-26-08
                            • 154

                            #1098
                            Originally posted by losemyloot
                            Looking to add a book as a US player and was wondering if betmaker is a better out than Betislands?
                            Betmaker sucks
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                            • offshoregenius77
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 05-26-08
                              • 154

                              #1099
                              Originally posted by todd73nj
                              Even Hareeba can tell you that MB had no college BB market maker last season. For the tournament, there werent even any bids. I have posted screen shots of this in prior messages. Hareeba even saw that and responded by saying he didnt care about college basketball bec he had no explanation
                              Well I rolled $30k over 10 times in cbb alone on mb last year. I couldnt do that in a wet dream on Betmaker.

                              Ill leave this topic alone , because its a useless point.... MB is gone.

                              OG
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                              • todd73nj
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-09-08
                                • 824

                                #1100
                                Originally posted by offshoregenius77

                                Well I rolled $30k over 10 times in cbb alone on mb last year. I couldnt do that in a wet dream on Betmaker.

                                Ill leave this topic alone , because its a useless point.... MB is gone.

                                OG
                                Scroll back to last march my friend - in this thread and the one I consistently quote for Hareeba, there are screen shots.

                                Empty markets. Entire NCAA tourny, empty. Futures, Empty. Nothing.
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                                • unclebuzz1
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-23-09
                                  • 565

                                  #1101
                                  Matched funds at time when game was suspended ...

                                  Louisville/S.Florida ..... ML = $204 ..... PS = $430 ..... Total = $61

                                  Iowa/Nebraska .......... ML = $123 ..... PS = $293 ..... Total = $194

                                  Arkansas/LSU .............ML = $392 ..... PS = $482 ..... Total = $0

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                                  Last edited by unclebuzz1; 11-25-11, 02:41 PM.
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                                  • offshoregenius77
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-26-08
                                    • 154

                                    #1102
                                    Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                    Matched funds at time when game was suspended ...

                                    Louisville/S.Florida ..... ML = $204 ..... PS = $430 ..... Total = $61

                                    Iowa/Nebraska .......... ML = $123 ..... PS = $293 ..... Total = $194

                                    Arkansas/LSU .............ML = $392 ..... PS = $482 ..... Total = $0

                                    .
                                    Thank You!!
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                                    • hhsilver
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-07-07
                                      • 7375

                                      #1103
                                      Pitt/wvu was a little better : spread : Matched: $1457
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                                      • offshoregenius77
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 05-26-08
                                        • 154

                                        #1104
                                        Originally posted by hhsilver
                                        Pitt/wvu was a little better : spread : Matched: $1457
                                        But that's still pathetic. At least you dont have four figures stuck there trying to roll it over three times before you can withdraw it . Who would have though Bookmaker would roll some crap out like this? Well I sure didnt. I guess its not in their interest to have the exchange cannibalize the bookie biz.......
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                                        • unclebuzz1
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-23-09
                                          • 565

                                          #1105
                                          Matched funds at time when game was suspended ...

                                          Louisville/S.Florida ..... ML = $204 ..... PS = $430 ..... Total = $61

                                          Iowa/Nebraska .......... ML = $123 ..... PS = $293 ..... Total = $194

                                          Arkansas/LSU ............ ML = $392 ..... PS = $482 ..... Total = $0

                                          BostonCol/Miami ........ ML = $150 ..... PS = $1446 .... Total = $0

                                          Pittsburgh/W.Virginia .. ML = $756 ..... PS = $1457 .... Total = $0

                                          California/ArizonaSt. ... ML = $0 ........ PS = $1496 .... Total = $574

                                          ALL TV GAMES!!!!!
                                          Originally posted by offshoregenius77
                                          Thank You!!
                                          You're welcome!!
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                                          • todd73nj
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-09-08
                                            • 824

                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by offshoregenius77

                                            But that's still pathetic. At least you dont have four figures stuck there trying to roll it over three times before you can withdraw it . Who would have though Bookmaker would roll some crap out like this? Well I sure didnt. I guess its not in their interest to have the exchange cannibalize the bookie biz.......
                                            Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                            Matched funds at time when game was suspended ...

                                            Louisville/S.Florida ..... ML = $204 ..... PS = $430 ..... Total = $61

                                            Iowa/Nebraska .......... ML = $123 ..... PS = $293 ..... Total = $194

                                            Arkansas/LSU ............ ML = $392 ..... PS = $482 ..... Total = $0

                                            BostonCol/Miami ........ ML = $150 ..... PS = $1446 .... Total = $0

                                            Pittsburgh/W.Virginia .. ML = $756 ..... PS = $1457 .... Total = $0

                                            California/ArizonaSt. ... ML = $0 ........ PS = $1496 .... Total = $574

                                            ALL TV GAMES!!!!!

                                            You're welcome!!
                                            And the volume from Matchbook is where?

                                            All you need to do is watch the MMers (when there is one) position on the board - it never gets hit. $$ amount is always the same. MB is not trading either Im sorry to inform everyone.

                                            I know, I know... everyone trades thousands per game. But if you do the math and figure out what MB makes on the thousands just the guys in these threads claim to make - Why in the world did they not have any money, and why did they sell?
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                                            • todd73nj
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-09-08
                                              • 824

                                              #1107
                                              And fwiw... I think screen shots go alot further than typed in data.
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                                              • unclebuzz1
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-23-09
                                                • 565

                                                #1108
                                                Betmaker gets less action than Dorothy got from the Scarecrow, Tin Man or Cowardly Lion.
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                                                • offshoregenius77
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 05-26-08
                                                  • 154

                                                  #1109
                                                  Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                                  Betmaker gets less action than Dorothy got from the Scarecrow, Tin Man or Cowardly Lion.
                                                  'Buzz .... Thats funny, sad, and true
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                                                  • offshoregenius77
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 05-26-08
                                                    • 154

                                                    #1110
                                                    Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                    And the volume from Matchbook is where?

                                                    All you need to do is watch the MMers (when there is one) position on the board - it never gets hit. $$ amount is always the same. MB is not trading either Im sorry to inform everyone.

                                                    I know, I know... everyone trades thousands per game. But if you do the math and figure out what MB makes on the thousands just the guys in these threads claim to make - Why in the world did they not have any money, and why did they sell?
                                                    They gave credit AND took positions..... AND got crushed . I think the credit beats were the worst. And theres no college football volume because there arent any US bettors left. Im not saying MB was the end all, but Betmaker is a complete joke at this point.
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                                                    • todd73nj
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-09-08
                                                      • 824

                                                      #1111
                                                      Originally posted by offshoregenius77

                                                      They gave credit AND took positions..... AND got crushed . I think the credit beats were the worst. And theres no college football volume because there arent any US bettors left. Im not saying MB was the end all, but Betmaker is a complete joke at this point.
                                                      The credit beats were the worst?

                                                      There is no soccer action, no rugby action, Nothing MB has left open since they booted US players has traded. Nothing they left open for a year before they booted us traded.

                                                      I have about a ****load of guys who use my chat room - who arent braggers that they win thousands every night gambling - who will tell you the same thing.

                                                      Betmaker will trade more in game tomorrow, than Matchbook has in two years.
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                                                      • unclebuzz1
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-23-09
                                                        • 565

                                                        #1112
                                                        Who has a Bookmaker account? Do they have in-play wagering real-time (not commercials only)? Do they keep the original lines (adjust the odds) or adjust the lines as the game goes along? What have they got for options? ML? PS? Total? Any props - what? Thanks for any info.
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                                                        • unclebuzz1
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-23-09
                                                          • 565

                                                          #1113
                                                          Here you go Todd (no screen shot)

                                                          Sunday night ... Pitt/KC

                                                          No in-play action on Money Line or Total

                                                          Point Spread not tracked before 2Q

                                                          Start of 2Q ... $35,334

                                                          Start of HT ... $47,259

                                                          Start of 3Q ... $52,705

                                                          Start of 4Q ... $62,850

                                                          End of game ... $73,100
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                                                          • todd73nj
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-09-08
                                                            • 824

                                                            #1114
                                                            Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                                            Who has a Bookmaker account? Do they have in-play wagering real-time (not commercials only)? Do they keep the original lines (adjust the odds) or adjust the lines as the game goes along? What have they got for options? ML? PS? Total? Any props - what? Thanks for any info.
                                                            Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                                            Here you go Todd (no screen shot)

                                                            Sunday night ... Pitt/KC

                                                            No in-play action on Money Line or Total

                                                            Point Spread not tracked before 2Q

                                                            Start of 2Q ... $35,334

                                                            Start of HT ... $47,259

                                                            Start of 3Q ... $52,705

                                                            Start of 4Q ... $62,850

                                                            End of game ... $73,100
                                                            Well looks like you got your info on your own.. so no need to respond to the questions. Watch a MB live event.. in a sport taliored for Euros.. they wont even get 30 prices posted. And its been like that for two years. And look at Betfair - (No US players allowed onviously) - they dont struggle for in game volume on ANY event they list, US or Euro oriented).

                                                            Nothing trades at MB. Its just the site owners putting up prices so it doesnt look look completely open.

                                                            Screen shot a few events 1 hour prior then at game time - you will see that the apparent MMer posted block will all still be there.

                                                            Stagnant.
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                                                            • BAUS
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 2191

                                                              #1115
                                                              I've read this entire thread (and looked at betmaker from time to time) and unless I'm missing something, is there any good reason to use betmaker if you have access to Matchbook ?

                                                              BAUS
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                                                              • unclebuzz1
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-23-09
                                                                • 565

                                                                #1116
                                                                Originally posted by BAUS
                                                                I've read this entire thread (and looked at betmaker from time to time) and unless I'm missing something, is there any good reason to use betmaker if you have access to Matchbook ?

                                                                BAUS
                                                                You're not missing anything.
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                                                                • unclebuzz1
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-23-09
                                                                  • 565

                                                                  #1117
                                                                  Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                                  Well looks like you got your info on your own.. so no need to respond to the questions. Watch a MB live event.. in a sport taliored for Euros.. they wont even get 30 prices posted. And its been like that for two years. And look at Betfair - (No US players allowed onviously) - they dont struggle for in game volume on ANY event they list, US or Euro oriented).

                                                                  Nothing trades at MB. Its just the site owners putting up prices so it doesnt look look completely open.

                                                                  Screen shot a few events 1 hour prior then at game time - you will see that the apparent MMer posted block will all still be there.

                                                                  Stagnant.
                                                                  Todd, stop the constant comparison of Betmaker to MB.

                                                                  You're not going to convince anyone outside the US that Betmaker is better than MB was or is. It could be in the future. What's important to you is not necessarily important to others.

                                                                  MB doesn't exist for anyone inside the US. You're running a negative ad campaign against a dead entity. It's like comparing Betmaker to a ghost. It's a non-issue for US players.

                                                                  Promote Betmaker on it's own merits. It IS the best option for an exchange for US players but not because it's better than MB. It's because it's the ONLY option available for US players.

                                                                  GL

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                                                                  Last edited by unclebuzz1; 11-28-11, 06:24 AM.
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                                                                  • unclebuzz1
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-23-09
                                                                    • 565

                                                                    #1118
                                                                    Having said my last few posts (and the fact that I'm currently in tap city), I'm considering opening an account at Bookmaker. I've never understood the following. Is there or is there not, a fee to transfer funds between Bookmaker and Betmaker going in either direction? How much?
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                                                                    • noyb
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 09-13-05
                                                                      • 971

                                                                      #1119
                                                                      Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                                      Ah yes, you are right Hareeba. No one but US players must participate to make March the highest handle wagering month every year.

                                                                      Hmm... so if thats really the case - does that make the US the largest betting market in the world?
                                                                      is your universe actually bigger than the US? No one but US players and scalpers give a **** about college sports in general, and no book but US books have the highest handle in March every year.
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                                                                      • wrongturn
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-06-06
                                                                        • 2228

                                                                        #1120
                                                                        Originally posted by unclebuzz1
                                                                        Having said my last few posts (and the fact that I'm currently in tap city), I'm considering opening an account at Bookmaker. I've never understood the following. Is there or is there not, a fee to transfer funds between Bookmaker and Betmaker going in either direction? How much?
                                                                        I had a few transfers between them and they are all free and done in a few minutes.
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