Can a book be an "A" book , if they don't transfer with anybody ?

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  • Doug
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 6324

    #1
    Can a book be an "A" book , if they don't transfer with anybody ?
    I kind of think NO !

    To me it means no other book wants to owed money by them. Am I wrong ?

    They should at least transfer with 5D, Greek, Betjam, Pinny, Bookmaker, Matchbook etc.to earn an A rating, IMO !

    Thoughts ?
  • Peep
    SBR MVP
    • 06-23-08
    • 2295

    #2
    Yes.

    If they pay like clockwork, have a proven track record and are not afraid of taking a bet, they are certainly an "A" in my book.

    Not doing transfers could be a decision management has made, and made for a number of reasons. They may just prefer to run their business their own way, catering to just their players who deposit the old fashioned way.
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    • Hareeba!
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 07-01-06
      • 37194

      #3
      I've never done a book to book transfer
      Never needed to
      No way that the lack of such facility in any way means that Pinnacle and Betfair for example aren't A+ books
      The key determinants of that rating for mine are:
      1. Security and prompt payment
      2. Market leading odds
      3. High limits
      the rest are simply side issues
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      • Doug
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-10-05
        • 6324

        #4
        Originally posted by Peep
        Yes.

        If they pay like clockwork, have a proven track record and are not afraid of taking a bet, they are certainly an "A" in my book.

        Not doing transfers could be a decision management has made, and made for a number of reasons. They may just prefer to run their business their own way, catering to just their players who deposit the old fashioned way.
        got an example, Peep ?

        American preferably.

        A rated Gringo books transfer....generally
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        • Climate
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-22-07
          • 345

          #5
          I agree with most of the above. Paying fast, honoring their policies and not cheating or cutting guys off is an A book.
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          • Doug
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 6324

            #6
            Even CRIS/ BM is limiting guys now though !
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            • RonPaul2008
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-08-07
              • 6741

              #7
              Agreed, no transfer with at least one top book then you are not a top book
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              • Hareeba!
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                • 07-01-06
                • 37194

                #8
                Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                Agreed, no transfer with at least one top book then you are not a top book
                oh well, that makes the world's best less than a top book
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                • RonPaul2008
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-08-07
                  • 6741

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hareeba!
                  oh well, that makes the world's best less than a top book
                  Pinnacle does transfers with other top books.
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                  • Hareeba!
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-01-06
                    • 37194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                    Pinnacle does transfers with other top books.
                    yes, but Pinnacle is only #2 in world rankings
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                    • RonPaul2008
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-08-07
                      • 6741

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                      yes, but Pinnacle is only #2 in world rankings

                      hmmmm...who is #1? And according to who?
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                      • Hareeba!
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 07-01-06
                        • 37194

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                        hmmmm...who is #1? And according to who?
                        you really have to pity American punters!

                        Betfair is clearly the one "book" most who have experienced them would chose above all others (unless they are interested only in US sports)
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                        • RonPaul2008
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-08-07
                          • 6741

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                          you really have to pity American punters!

                          Betfair is clearly the one "book" most who have experienced them would chose above all others (unless they are interested only in US sports)
                          Betfair is an exchange isn't it?
                          Pinnacle is a book.
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                          • Mudcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-21-05
                            • 9287

                            #14
                            Book to book transfers are an extremely low priority for me.
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                            • Thremp
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-23-07
                              • 2067

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                              you really have to pity American punters! Betfair is clearly the one "book" most who have experienced them would chose above all others (unless they are interested only in US sports)
                              So naive.
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 37194

                                #16
                                Quote:
                                Originally Posted by Hareeba!
                                you really have to pity American punters! Betfair is clearly the one "book" most who have experienced them would chose above all others (unless they are interested only in US sports)


                                Originally posted by Thremp
                                So naive.

                                please yourself, but it's an undeniable fact
                                Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 01-14-15, 04:39 PM.
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                                • RonPaul2008
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-08-07
                                  • 6741

                                  #17
                                  I agree that it does suck that Americans can't use lots of books and money transfer options that people in many other countries can.
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                                  • JohnnyC
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-27-09
                                    • 504

                                    #18
                                    Of course they can
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                                    • RonPaul2008
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-08-07
                                      • 6741

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                      Of course they can

                                      Well, I mean without having an address in another country and elaborate plans to obfuscate that they really live in the u.s.

                                      If there is some easier way, please pm me and elaborate...i'm curious.
                                      .
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                                      • sportsbetwin
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 03-07-09
                                        • 745

                                        #20
                                        You should not acknowledge your competition.

                                        I don't give a rats if a book doesn't do b2b transfers - it is irrelevant to me.
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                                        • Hareeba!
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 07-01-06
                                          • 37194

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sportsbetwin;68***67
                                          You should not acknowledge your competition.

                                          I don't give a rats if a book doesn't do b2b transfers - it is irrelevant to me.
                                          yeah, me too but it's a very real thing for those in the Land of the "Free" ... despite the garbage about online live betting, we're so lucky here Down Under mate
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                                          • 911
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 09-30-10
                                            • 159

                                            #22
                                            yes they can sportsbet.com.au best in the world
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 37194

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 911
                                              yes they can sportsbet.com.au best in the world


                                              weak Irish bastards
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                                              • HedgeHog
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-11-07
                                                • 10128

                                                #24
                                                Does Heritage transfer to anyone? I don't think they do, yet they are A+ with me (B+ with SBR).
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                                                • Absolutelyonfire
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 04-28-10
                                                  • 307

                                                  #25
                                                  Absolutely.....never done a book to book transfer and probably never will
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                                                  • Kindred
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-09-08
                                                    • 2901

                                                    #26
                                                    As long as they pay winners, on time, they should be able to earn A+
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37194

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Kindred
                                                      As long as they pay winners, on time, they should be able to earn A+
                                                      no point even playing at a book which passes only that test

                                                      they must also bet competitive prices and let you on for a decent sized wager to be rated A+
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                                                      • msdw1
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 02-12-08
                                                        • 147

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                        Does Heritage transfer to anyone? I don't think they do, yet they are A+ with me (B+ with SBR).
                                                        BetJM only
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                                                        • onesite
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 10-11-10
                                                          • 24

                                                          #29
                                                          I don't care about book to book transsfers and I think most punters don't care about them either. An "A" rating is deserved by a book based on the excellence of their lines, payout delivery, customer service procedures, etc, not on the decision to transfer monies to competing books.
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