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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post

    They are growing. Got some new heavy hitters backing them.
    The "backers" are exactly the ones STOPPING them paying people. Do not kid yourself. Every book who relies on funding to stay afloat has an overlord telling them what to do. And it's always aimed at making sure the backer does not lose at the players expense.


    Just manage your book properly, pay your withdrawals when asked for them, and no need to talk rubbish about backers. No need for a backer to pay your bills when running an unregulated sportsbook if you operate it professionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    The "backers" are exactly the ones STOPPING them paying people. Do not kid yourself. Every book who relies on funding to stay afloat has an overlord telling them what to do. And it's always aimed at making sure the backer does not lose at the players expense.


    Just manage your book properly, pay your withdrawals when asked for them, and no need to talk rubbish about backers. No need for a backer to pay your bills when running an unregulated sportsbook if you operate it professionally.
    Thanks optional

    Makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    That’s what some were told.

    They increased the amount of payouts per week due to the backing.

    You send 2,000 you can collect 4,000 a week.
    I'm not doubting this is what you heard, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Either your book is solvent or it isn't. If you're operating a book effectively, there should be no difference between paying out $4,000 and $2,000. Because you're taking in more than you're paying out. If someone told me that they had to rely on "backers" to pay players what they are owed, that would actually deeply concern me about their operation. Let's face it - the reason books put limits on payouts is to keep more funds in their coffers for longer, so players will be more likely to play and lose. "Backers" sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

    Edit: Or kind of what Optional said. Guess I should have read the next page first.
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    Yea, if the book itself actually mentioned ďbackers, then thatís concerning. Then again, sometimes these small books over do it with bonuses and run into $ issues and need backers to keep them afloat (like a startup bleeding cash for users up front).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLXC View Post
    Yea, if the book itself actually mentioned ďbackers, then thatís concerning. Then again, sometimes these small books over do it with bonuses and run into $ issues and need backers to keep them afloat (like a startup bleeding cash for users up front).
    My understanding is simply when when asked why are you able to now pay out more weekly now verses before? They stated they have investors.

    Itís not like they are telling people this.

    Itís not being promoted as such.

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    Should not have any restrictions on withdrawals, the whole limited to double your deposit on a withdrawal is ridiculous!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckylefty73 View Post
    Should not have any restrictions on withdrawals, the whole limited to double your deposit on a withdrawal is ridiculous!!
    Many books have limits.

    Heritage has limits

    Bookmaker no weekends.

    No nights.

    Stop

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    Why is it alarming if Youbetonit has investors (backers)? I would think that it reflects well on YB's business model if others want to buy into their operation. BTW, I'm content with a $2000 max payout per week. I always put my withdrawal requests in on Monday and have always gotten it by the end of the week. Lately I've received payment same or next day, which is encouraging. While not for everyone, I think YB is a decent out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Many books have limits.

    Heritage has limits

    Bookmaker no weekends.

    No nights.

    Stop
    Ok lol. We all can tell that you are a big fan of this book and that's fine. Best of luck to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckylefty73 View Post
    Ok lol. We all can tell that you are a big fan of this book and that's fine. Best of luck to you
    We can tell you’ve never played there and you don’t know what you’re missing but that’s fine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Why is it alarming if Youbetonit has investors (backers)? I would think that it reflects well on YB's business model if others want to buy into their operation. BTW, I'm content with a $2000 max payout per week. I always put my withdrawal requests in on Monday and have always gotten it by the end of the week. Lately I've received payment same or next day, which is encouraging. While not for everyone, I think YB is a decent out.
    Not the mere fact they have backers. But that they are only able to pay out more because of their backers. That should have nothing to do with it. They've been in business for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Why is it alarming if Youbetonit has investors (backers)? I would think that it reflects well on YB's business model if others want to buy into their operation. BTW, I'm content with a $2000 max payout per week. I always put my withdrawal requests in on Monday and have always gotten it by the end of the week. Lately I've received payment same or next day, which is encouraging. While not for everyone, I think YB is a decent out.
    What do you think about the never ending bonuses up to 250% Hedgie?

    Does that look sustainable to you?

    Knowing how strongly you feel about Betislands, kind of surprised at your opinion here.

    I guess they owe you a bunch huh?
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    The fact it's the same 2 people touting this site tells me all I need to know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What do you think about the never ending bonuses up to 250% Hedgie?

    Does that look sustainable to you?

    Knowing how strongly you feel about Betislands, kind of surprised at your opinion here.

    I guess they owe you a bunch huh?
    Depends on what the rollover is on that particular bonus, and I'll bet you it's huge. I can tell you firsthand that their rollovers are tough to complete with their full juice lines. Fact is that I've busted more often than completing them. Truth is I no longer take bonuses there, instead opting for the reduced -105 lines. I currently have 8 grand there...is that a "bunch"? Not to me.

    Not sure why you keep bringing up BetIslands as I don't see the correlation. BetIslands didn't have have any "backers" coming to their rescue at the end. Further, their business model was a disaster (i.e. free 1/2 points off any number including 3 and 7 and small ROs on their big bonuses). In hindsight, their demise should not have been a surprise. I was burned like many others when they went under, and I'll take my share of the blame for not seeing the inevitable. I think the only one to come out ahead on that debacle was SBR. How much did you guys make in advertising revenue with this scam Book?

    I guess they paid you a bunch huh?
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    Well, partly because that is what it smells like to me. Desperate marketing with over the top bonuses like Betislands. And the other partly is due to you being such an angry poster about Betislands/SBR over many years.

    Seems hypocritical to be sooooooo keen to put yourself out there promoting this same style shop so hard now.

    I dunno what SBR made there. But I wouldn't be angrily whoring myself out for 8k, thats for sure. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Well, partly because that is what it smells like to me. Desperate marketing with over the top bonuses like Betislands. And the other partly is due to you being such an angry poster about Betislands/SBR over many years.

    Seems hypocritical to be sooooooo keen to put yourself out there promoting this same style shop so hard now.

    I dunno what SBR made there. But I wouldn't be angrily whoring myself out for 8k, thats for sure. ;-)
    Hey I'm not telling anyone to play at YouBetonit, just relaying my experiences. Obviously there are additional risks there as they are a smaller Book, so posters can decide accordingly. As long as I'm "whoring myself out", allow me to give a shoutout to Betnow another small book I like. Full disclosure--I have 17k there so I really really need everyone to play there so I can get paid.

    Christ, I play at 6 or 7 SBR sponsor books and you have no problem when I make favorable posts about them. But when I chime in about a lesser known outfit I'm seen as a shil trying to insure my balance is safe. I could care less where others decide to play, but it's a forum and I'll freely share my opinion if that's ok with you.

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    Hey Dude, you were the one asking "Why is it alarming" after several people had already explained!

    If you don't want an argument, don't start one next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Hey Dude, you were the one asking "Why is it alarming" after several people had already explained!

    If you don't want an argument, don't start one next time.
    It was a sincere question, not designed to start an argument but instead a discussion. I still don't understand why it's a red flag that outside investors would want to invest in Youbetonit--if in fact that's what has occurred. Why would anyone want to jump aboard a sinking ship? I actually think it would be a good thing if YB had additional backing. Unlike you, I believe YB's business model is sustainable--because I have attempted their rollovers in the past and they are very difficult.

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    America Bookie is desperate marketing too

    Anyone that keeps pounding away big bonuses watch out
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    ive got a hefty balance here and will be requesting a max btc withdraw this week. (hopefully 5k....if they only allow me 2k per week I'll be in it for the long haul) They told me on deposit they would let me do 5k per if I ran my balance into the 5 figures. well......here we are.


    Ill keep everyone posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. NBA View Post
    ive got a hefty balance here and will be requesting a max btc withdraw this week. (hopefully 5k....if they only allow me 2k per week I'll be in it for the long haul) They told me on deposit they would let me do 5k per if I ran my balance into the 5 figures. well......here we are.
    I'm impressed you clear the rollover. I'm still chugging through mine :| I also have a decent sized balance there that I'm concerned about.

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    Update on my current payout situation:


    Good afternoon!

    Thank you for your request. In your case we would like to remind you that as company policy, we payout a max of $2000 per week.

    Also, We take payout requests from Monday thru Wednesday and your request came in late last night when all the CS reps had already turned in all the payout reports.

    The next available window to request a payout will be next Monday.

    Thank you for understanding. Have a good one.

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    I will give another update Monday/Tuesday of next week. Best of luck this weekend everyone.

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    An update a little sooner than expected. The folks over at Youbetonit made a exception for me on the tardiness of my request yesterday. Very nice of them to reach back out and make it happen. Going forward I will make my requests in the intended window as mentioned in the email above.


    Communication here at this book has been off the charts good whether its texts or emails.....(especially the texting)


    Take care gang and here's to a winning week number 1.

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    Keep reports coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. NBA View Post
    Update on my current payout situation:


    Good afternoon!

    Thank you for your request. In your case we would like to remind you that as company policy, we payout a max of $2000 per week.

    Also, We take payout requests from Monday thru Wednesday and your request came in late last night when all the CS reps had already turned in all the payout reports.

    The next available window to request a payout will be next Monday.

    Thank you for understanding. Have a good one.

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    I will give another update Monday/Tuesday of next week. Best of luck this weekend everyone.
    Thought they were paying out 4 G a week starting Sept.

    This is concerning

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Thought they were paying out 4 G a week starting Sept.

    This is concerning
    Just stick to the Heritageís and BetOnlineís of the world then. Youbetonit has and continues to pay. Move on with your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    Just stick to the Heritageís and BetOnlineís of the world then. Youbetonit has and continues to pay. Move on with your life.
    Lol

    You donít like facts. If they lie why fund them?

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    duplicate

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Thought they were paying out 4 G a week starting Sept.

    This is concerning
    It depends on how much the person deposited. If the poster deposited under a certain thresehold then the max weekly payout is 2k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystlpointballr View Post
    It depends on how much the person deposited. If the poster deposited under a certain thresehold then the max weekly payout is 2k.
    Thanks!

    Just spoke to my buddy who loves these guys just told me same thing.

    However, Iím waiting to see somebody actually get paid 4 G a week.

    Nobody has yet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by crystlpointballr View Post
    duplicate
    Lol

    Who is this shill???


    So obvious

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Thanks!

    Just spoke to my buddy who loves these guys just told me same thing.

    However, I’m waiting to see somebody actually get paid 4 G a week.

    Nobody has yet.





    Just posted this in the payouts section Mike.....


    Book: Youbetonit

    Amount: 3k

    Method: btc

    Timeframe: under 24 hours


    Notes: Withdraws are Monday through Wednesday. I think it's best to request on Monday or Tuesday going forward as you know you will get your request in, seen, and paid. I got an email stating that I had 2k withdraw limits.....I believe that portion of the email to be a mistake tbh as I requested 3k and got 3k. ($2,970.99 when received)



    I unfortunately will not be able to comment or report back on the 4k/5k a week thing as I've gone from 5 figures to not 5 figures in a big damn hurry. The joys of gambling.

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