Do the bet exchanges work with a winning system?

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  • bobsimmons
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-10-09
    • 23

    #1
    Do the bet exchanges work with a winning system?
    Originally posted by Dunder
    For non-US sports, BetFair (by far the biggest/best exchange) offers pretty much unlimited liquiidity and have no reason to limit winners, but if you are expecting to win 12 pct month-on-month, be sure you are very familiar with "Premium Charge".

    If you are using a system that allows you to win consistently and you need to follow the system, will places like BetFair and MatchBook always have the bet you need and at the amount you need it and at the value you need it like Bet Jamaica, The Greek, and Pinnacle provide it for?


    Also, what does the "premium charge" mean?


    I am not familiar with these exchanges as I have not done opened an account with them yet.


    Thanks for you help, Bob
  • Shifty
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-10-08
    • 558

    #2
    Betfair has a complex formula for their "premium charges". If you win too often over an extended period they will charge you a 20% tax on winnings. It mostly applies to professional arbitrageurs who back and lay the same market.
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    • JoeVig
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-11-08
      • 772

      #3
      Originally posted by bobsimmons
      If you are using a system that allows you to win consistently
      How much are you having to pay for this "system" ?
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      • moonbeam
        SBR MVP
        • 03-02-07
        • 1496

        #4
        Originally posted by bobsimmons
        If you are using a system that allows you to win consistently and you need to follow the system, will places like BetFair and MatchBook always have the bet you need and at the amount you need it and at the value you need it like Bet Jamaica, The Greek, and Pinnacle provide it for?


        Also, what does the "premium charge" mean?


        I am not familiar with these exchanges as I have not done opened an account with them yet.


        Thanks for you help, Bob
        Thats a funny post bobbsimmons.

        And the simple answer is NO
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        • moonbeam
          SBR MVP
          • 03-02-07
          • 1496

          #5
          Originally posted by JoeVig
          How much are you having to pay for this "system" ?



          it depends on the system sellers
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          • Jontheman
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-09-08
            • 139

            #6
            Originally posted by bobsimmons
            If you are using a system that allows you to win consistently and you need to follow the system, will places like BetFair and MatchBook always have the bet you need and at the amount you need it and at the value you need it like Bet Jamaica, The Greek, and Pinnacle provide it for?


            Also, what does the "premium charge" mean?


            I am not familiar with these exchanges as I have not done opened an account with them yet.


            Thanks for you help, Bob
            Whatever system you have is (in theory) less likely to be succesfull on an exchange because the market is more efficient.

            The premium charge on BF applies to people whose winnings are large relative to the amount of commission they pay. This means people who back and lay the same market at BF so that they only pay commission on their profit. Normal bettors are very unlikely to be affected.
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            • moonbeam
              SBR MVP
              • 03-02-07
              • 1496

              #7
              Originally posted by Jontheman
              Whatever system you have is (in theory) less likely to be succesfull on an exchange because the market is more efficient.

              The premium charge on BF applies to people whose winnings are large relative to the amount of commission they pay. This means people who back and lay the same market at BF so that they only pay commission on their profit. Normal bettors are very unlikely to be affected.
              I really changed my mind about their premium fee nowadays.

              Betfair are really assholes but I welcome this fee now
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              • HeeeHAWWWW
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-13-08
                • 5487

                #8
                Originally posted by Jontheman
                The premium charge on BF applies to people whose winnings are large relative to the amount of commission they pay. This means people who back and lay the same market at BF so that they only pay commission on their profit. Normal bettors are very unlikely to be affected.
                Not that unlikely (I was).
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                • Art Vandeleigh
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-31-06
                  • 1494

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bobsimmons
                  If you are using a system that allows you to win consistently and you need to follow the system, will places like BetFair and MatchBook always have the bet you need and at the amount you need it and at the value you need it like Bet Jamaica, The Greek, and Pinnacle provide it for?


                  Also, what does the "premium charge" mean?


                  I am not familiar with these exchanges as I have not done opened an account with them yet.


                  Thanks for you help, Bob
                  Betfair is not a magic place, but in sports like soccer, tennis, golf, horse racing, it is very liquid and can probably fill your "winning system" requirements.
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                  • GETMONEYKID
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-05-09
                    • 148

                    #10
                    no such thing as a winning system bud

                    we all lose a little more than half our bets
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