[Pat McCrotch]

Was it ever legal to gamble online?

Who banned it?

Why did they ban it?

Seems a good few other countries have followed the yanks.

[Chi_archie]

made illegal well before online

was just a way to try to catch organized crime in something black and white.

in the ways it was made it illegal, it just wasn't able to be taxed and regulated.

which is why sports gambling is illegal but casinos, horse racing, bingo, lottery ect are not.

[Justin3587]

From what I understand it's not illegal for US residents to gamble online, it's illegal for banks to fund it and Its illegal to take bets from US customers. Atleast that is what I gather. These cokksukker politicians don't have a penetrating clue. It's funny to me that they prohibit gambling, but then they want to tax it. Ironic huh? All politicians are nitwit fukks. One thing you should remember when thinking about politicians is that they get paid that salary for the rest of their life. No retirement or anything. If you are a Senator for a term, you can sit on your ass the rest of your life and get paid that salary. United States is a fukking joke now.

[Emily_Haines]

gop banned it

[Pat McCrotch]

I dont think its just the us government, someone else must be involved

Think of the money that could be made if there was bookmaker shops all around the usa just like the uk

[Justin3587]

I dont think its just the us government, someone else must be involved

Think of the money that could be made if there was Bookmaker shops all around the usa just like the uk

Who else would be involved? Aliens?

[JayLA]

Sports betting is illegal, and like someone said...money from US banks and using US telephone lines to make these sports bets I believe, is "illegal." (Not 100% sure about that)

but "gambling" isn't.
You can play the lottery, play certain casino games, play certain card games, play parimutuels etc. etc. but not sports....except in Las Vegas of course.

why was sports betting made illegal? this is all speculation but...
cause it's lucrative. organized crime controlled(controls) most of the outs. the US government doesn't want to tax it nationally, or isn't quite sure how to. too many horror stories to make the positive case out of it.

We're all really hoping for a closer city to legalize sports betting. Atlantic City 2013, here we come!!

[Pat McCrotch]

I mean the sports teams might say no

Who else would be involved? Aliens?

[FreeFall]

Sports betting is illegal, and like someone said...money from US banks and using US telephone lines to make these sports bets I believe, is "illegal." (Not 100% sure about that)

but "gambling" isn't.
You can play the lottery, play certain casino games, play certain card games, play parimutuels etc. etc. but not sports....except in Las Vegas of course.

why was sports betting made illegal? this is all speculation but...
cause it's lucrative. organized crime controlled(controls) most of the outs. the US government doesn't want to tax it nationally, or isn't quite sure how to. too many horror stories to make the positive case out of it.

We're all really hoping for a closer city to legalize sports betting. Atlantic City 2013, here we come!!

Can you prove that sports betting is illegal?

I'll help guide you to answer that question by asking is it illegal for me to call a shop in CR and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to call a shop in Alabama and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to log into an online shop and make a bet?

[JayLA]

Can you prove that sports betting is illegal?

I'll help guide you to answer that question by asking is it illegal for me to call a shop in CR and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to call a shop in Alabama and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to log into an online shop and make a bet?

I think there is something about using "US telephone lines" to make sports bets being illegal. Whether the federal government enforces these laws is a different matter, as we all know.

i was referring to the legal status of domestically wagering US currency on the outcome of a sports event....that's illegal regardless of semantics and enforcement.

and on a side note, whether you can prove something or not is one of the reasons the US justice system is a complete joke.

[Justin7]

Can you prove that sports betting is illegal?

I'll help guide you to answer that question by asking is it illegal for me to call a shop in CR and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to call a shop in Alabama and make a bet?
Is it illegal for me to log into an online shop and make a bet?

There is no federal law against placing a bet. Many states have laws against gambling (mostly misdemeanors). Accepting a bet (i.e. being the bookmaker) is a federal felony, and often a state felony.

[Justin3587]

I think there is something about using "US telephone lines" to make sports bets being illegal. Whether the federal government enforces these laws is a different matter, as we all know.

i was referring to the legal status of domestically wagering US currency on the outcome of a sports event....that's illegal regardless of semantics and enforcement.

and on a side note, whether you can prove something or not is one of the reasons the US justice system is a complete joke.

It's not illegal for a person to make a bet, it is illegal in the United States to run a betting operation. That is about as dumb as it gets, but hey, I think the United States is on it's last leg anyway.

[LordVodka]

There is no federal law against placing a bet. Many states have laws against gambling (mostly misdemeanors). Accepting a bet (i.e. being the bookmaker) is a federal felony, and often a state felony.

Is there any law about accepting a payment from a bookie?

[JayLA]

It's not illegal for a person to make a bet, it is illegal in the United States to run a betting operation. That is about as dumb as it gets, but hey, I think the United States is on it's last leg anyway.

Ok, making a gentleman's bet for 100 on a game at home in your living room is not illegal, yes. But contacting a local clandestine sportsbook to make your standard sports bet with odds and what not...is.

I'm not one of these guys who claim to know everything about anything but I don't think my assertions are off the wall here.

Whether the FBI will knock your door down for making a $250 bet on HEAT-13 with Jimmy the bookie is another story.

[Justin3587]

Ok, making a gentleman's bet for 100 on a game at home in your living room is not illegal, yes. But contacting a local clandestine sportsbook to make your standard sports bet with odds and what not...is.

I'm not one of these guys who claim to know everything about anything but I don't think my assertions are off the wall here.

Whether the FBI will knock your door down for making a $250 bet on HEAT-13 with Jimmy the bookie is another story.

Im telling you, if that was the case, betoors would be getting in trouble as well as the bookies.

[FreeFall]

There is no federal law against placing a bet. Many states have laws against gambling (mostly misdemeanors). Accepting a bet (i.e. being the bookmaker) is a federal felony, and often a state felony.

Thanks Justin.

This is how I understand the laws in the US. I was hoping JayLA could/would come to that conclusion on his own so he could learn.

If any of these are wrong or can be refuted please let me know.

[JayLA]

Thanks Justin.

This is how I understand the laws in the US. I was hoping JayLA could/would come to that conclusion on his own so he could learn.

If any of these are wrong or can be refuted please let me know.

No federal law against placing a sports bet. But "gambling" is a misdemeanor in most states. Got it. Still illegal. Semantics.

Nevada, Delaware,and Oregon are the few states that can authorize sportsbooks, I think.

[Dark Horse]

Was it ever legal to gamble online?

Who banned it?

Why did they ban it?

Follow the money.

On a sidenote, isn't it funny how the government has somehow claimed authority over the internet; mostly in the name of the -all too convenient- homeland security? It's not the domain of a few hundred delusional morons. It belongs to us. The People. The government should have no power whatsoever in cyberspace. We didn't give it to them. We didn't wonder, as with a country, how to govern it and how to best look after the welfare of its inhabitants. They just assumed they could take it.

Since this is election day. You know what will happen when and if the People finally rise up? They have FEMA concentration camps ready to lock away millions of Americans. Not kidding.

[chilidog]

On a sidenote, isn't it funny how the government has somehow claimed authority over the internet; mostly in the name of the -all too convenient- homeland security? It's not the domain of a few hundred delusional morons. It belongs to us. The People.

The internet is not public property. It's a series of privately-owned networks connected together. Thus, the internet does not belong to the people.

[Dark Horse]

The internet is not public property. It's a series of privately-owned networks connected together. Thus, the internet does not belong to the people.

Semantics. Privately owned is by the people, not belonging to the government. This land belongs to the People, but not every individual has to own land to make it so.

[Art Vandeleigh]

It's not illegal for a person to make a bet, it is illegal in the United States to run a betting operation. That is about as dumb as it gets, but hey, I think the United States is on it's last leg anyway.

I'm not sure "dumb" is the correct description for differentiating between the supposed "exploiter" (guy charging "vig"), and the weak stupid moronic illiterate drooling gambler - clearly the "exploited". (Unless the "exploited" understands the concept of EV, and the difference between what happens when you bet +EV vs. betting -EV).

[Justin3587]

I'm not sure "dumb" is the correct description for differentiating between the supposed "exploiter" (guy charging "vig"), and the weak stupid moronic illiterate drooling gambler - clearly the "exploited". (Unless the "exploited" understands the concept of EV, and the difference between what happens when you bet +EV vs. betting -EV).

Referring to the Government as a whole here. It's pretty ridiculous.

[FreeFall]

Follow the money.

On a sidenote, isn't it funny how the government has somehow claimed authority over the internet; mostly in the name of the -all too convenient- homeland security? It's not the domain of a few hundred delusional morons. It belongs to us. The People. The government should have no power whatsoever in cyberspace. We didn't give it to them. We didn't wonder, as with a country, how to govern it and how to best look after the welfare of its inhabitants. They just assumed they could take it.

Since this is election day. You know what will happen when and if the People finally rise up? They have FEMA concentration camps ready to lock away millions of Americans. Not kidding.

Gary Johnson is waiting for your vote sir.

On another side note just like anything the government is always behind. Boom another project made by the people for the people. https://www.torproject.org/. penetrate the public sector.