BetAnySports and Betanything.eu

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Anyone know how old BAS is, and how long it's been around? What if BAS is actually a mirror designed to capture the big U.S. players, since Tony's wife refused to give over the players names, which the feds reportedly requested?

Betanysports has been in the SBR rating guide since 2008 https://www.sportsbookreview.com/bet.../betanysports/


Sportbet, Chinesebookie and Vietbet are all similar setups to Betanysports and have been around for many years as well.

[TerraNonFirma]

Kind of a weird operation. Still haven't graded Braves/Reds series. Ended about 5 hours ago...No joke, was going to take Cardinals TT First Five...I think 5dimes gave them my 'file.'

Anyone know how old BAS is, and how long it's been around? What if BAS is actually a mirror designed to capture the big U.S. players, since Tony's wife refused to give over the players names, which the feds reportedly requested?

[TerraNonFirma]

Did you ever register with Vietbet or Chinese Bookie?

No, and I've never heard of those outfits.

[DontTailMe]

i just opened an account with BAS this morning and deposited $250 by btc about 3 hours ago my account is still not funded. is this normal?

It's not normal. As mentioned in another thread, their automatic account crediting process is broken, so they're doing it by hand. Not sure if it's fixed yet. I had to contact them after watching 7 confirmations, and they credited my account 10 minutes later.

[muelasdegallo]

Hi just wanted to share this unpleasant situation with a 3k check I requested on 9/29/20 and has yet to be delivered ultimately I don't believe it will so be careful with BAS, currently I have 19k in my account if the check is lost or whatever bs they might make up I'm gonna end up taking all my funds out via btc. I'm not hating on them I actually hope I'm wrong just sharing my experience if it is delivered like they promise tomorrow I will let you guys know.

[pattymayo]

Funny you guys mention that.. I've deposited probably 4 times at BAS over the last month or so and always had it credited pretty quickly, within 15 min or so.

Just the other day I made a deposit and it took about an hour to credit.

I always send with the highest fees, so idk what that was about.

[HedgeHog]

10 now

I would go to their live chat and ask what's delaying the posting of your deposit.

[Foosball Champ]

10 now

[HedgeHog]

i just opened an account with BAS this morning and deposited $250 by btc about 3 hours ago my account is still not funded. is this normal?

Any confirmations on the BTC address you sent to yet?

[Foosball Champ]

i just opened an account with BAS this morning and deposited $250 by btc about 3 hours ago my account is still not funded. is this normal?

[HedgeHog]

5D freerolls people on their deposits. That you got what you sent just means the freeroll didn't land against you. BTC has been stable lately so I'm not surprised, but if BTC falls while you wait the 30 mins or so for them to confirm funds, they deduct it from your balance. If BTC rises, however, you just get what you intended to send. Classic freeroll.

I agree 100%. I often had to wait for 6 confirmations before my deposit was posted at 5D, making it impossible to meet their 15 minute window. Once this occurred, they'd give me the worse of send time vs the time they considered it confirmed. Classic freeroll as you stated, and I'm sure they did this to everyone. I can only imagine how much they made under that crooked system.

As far as BAS is concerned, time will tell. I'll give them credit for posting both my deposits shortly after the first confirmation, something I never experienced at 5D. BAS also seems to be paying faster than 5D did --at least from what other posters are saying, next day in most cases. Still, I see no reason a top tier Book can't complete a BTC payout in less than 24 hours.

[DontTailMe]

gym rat if you read the thread yes, and there are several. Its standard issue. The excitement of having the 5dimes platform and normal limits last about 1/2 day, or 2 wagers whichever comes first for most that make the move.

He said *below* what they were previously at 5Dimes. The common story here (including mine) is that people are quickly being limited in accordance with their previous 5Dimes limit, not below.

[deeppckts]

I've made 2 BTC deposits in the last month, both of which seemed to be credited by the 1st or 2nd confirmation--and I basically received what I sent. Very fair from my limited experience.

5D freerolls people on their deposits. That you got what you sent just means the freeroll didn't land against you. BTC has been stable lately so I'm not surprised, but if BTC falls while you wait the 30 mins or so for them to confirm funds, they deduct it from your balance. If BTC rises, however, you just get what you intended to send. Classic freeroll.

[HedgeHog]

Are BTC deposits rigged at BetAnySports like 5D? You can only lose but never gain while waiting for confirmations?

I've made 2 BTC deposits in the last month, both of which seemed to be credited by the 1st or 2nd confirmation--and I basically received what I sent. Very fair from my limited experience.

[Shifty]

Are BTC deposits rigged at BetAnySports like 5D? You can only lose but never gain while waiting for confirmations?

[DISTROYA]

gym rat if you read the thread yes, and there are several. Its standard issue. The excitement of having the 5dimes platform and normal limits last about 1/2 day, or 2 wagers whichever comes first for most that make the move.

[gym rat]

Has anybody now with BAS had their limits lowered below what they were previously at 5Dimes ?

[ThaWoj]

Anything over 24 hrs for btc is too long imo

[pimike]

Same............31 hours here.

So far, VERY GOOD SHOP

Fish meet me at Southpoint this weekend Thursday-Monday

[Fishhead]

BAS BC Payout High 4 Figures 36 Hours

Same............31 hours here.

So far, VERY GOOD SHOP

[DISTROYA]

Man I miss the Greek it was the coolest website and interface ever

[Steve6157]

Good you could remember the Greek. Yeah, they left the market in an orderly way. But...they were not under the pressure the people at 5Dimes were. Perhaps this can help...5Dimes, a popular Costa Rica-based sportsbook, has reached a $46.8 million settlement with the U.S. government following a federal money-laundering investigation, according to a settlement agreement obtained by ESPN on Wednesday.5Dimes agreed to pay $15 million in cash, forfeit more than $30 million in assets and stop accepting wagers from U.S. customers while operating out of Costa Rica, according to the settlement agreement reached with the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Easten District of Pennsylvania.
The settlement also absolves Laura Varela, the widow of 5Dimes owner William Sean Creighton, of any criminal conduct alleged against the sportsbook. Varela assumed responsibility for 5Dimes' assets after her husband was kidnapped in September 2018 and found dead a year later, but she did not have "day-to-day authority" over its operations, according to the settlement.
"The investigation was a complete success from our perspective," Michael Lowe, assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, told ESPN. "There was gambling going on, but we discovered it, we put a stop to it."
The non-prosecution agreement allows 5Dimes and Varela to pursue opportunities in the expanding American sports betting market. Varela, who fully cooperated with the investigation, made "significant changes" to 5Dimes's operations that make it "suitable for participating in lawful gaming operations across the world," according to the settlement agreement.
"We achieved the objective, which is, she is compliant with U.S. federal law right now," Maria M. Carrillo, assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, told ESPN. "What that means for her is she is not operating in violation of U.S. law, and she is not actively taking bets from U.S. bettors.
"Whether she's positioned well for regulators, that's up for the regulators to decide," Carrillo said. "[5Dimes] certainly is no longer in violation of federal law."
In an interview with ESPN, Varela said she is " very, very happy and very excited about what the new chapter of 5Dimes can be."
Creighton, a native of West Virginia, launched 5Dimes around 2000. At a time when sports betting in the U.S was restricted to primarily Nevada, 5Dimes grew it into one of the most popular online sportsbooks that served American bettors and eventually attracted attention from federal investigators.
In 2016, the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, in conjunction with the Department of Homeland Security, revealed it was investigating 5Dimes for money laundering, according to a seizure warrant filed in U.S. District Court that year. In the warrant, an agent detailed how he believed 5Dimes instructed bettors based in the U.S. to use gift cards as a way to place and later cash out bets. Creighton was never formally charged; however, the investigation remained open for years.
5Dimes used third-party payment processors to accept illegal payments from U.S. customers, the U.S. Attorney's Office said in the settlement agreement. The third parties processed credit card transactions for 5Dimes that concealed the nature of the charges, and received funds from U.S. customers' ************ that were then transferred to bank accounts of shell companies operated by Creighton, according to the settlement.
Varela, through her attorneys, contacted the Eastern District of Pennsylvania in the spring of 2019 and offered her cooperation to settle the case. According to the settlement, she helped retrieve assets, but the parties agreed that her cooperation "did not include information about the identities of individual U.S.-based customes." Gold coins, cryptocurrency, funds from the sale of season tickets to the Pittsburgh Pirates and West Virginia University basketball and football, and a 1948 George Mikan rookie basketball card that Creighton purchased for about $400,000 are among the forfeited assets.
The Department of Homeland Security gifted the Mikan card to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C, according to the settlement agreement.
On Sept. 7, 5Dimes posted a notice on its website that it would stop accepting online bets from U.S.-based customers and instructed them to withdraw funds by Sept. 25. Any funds not requested by bettors before the deadline will be turned over to Epiq, a third-party claims administrator who will help the distribution process. Any funds not claimed by Sept. 30, 2021, will be forfeited to the U.S government, according to terms in the settlement.
Varela's attorneys, Stephen A. Miller and Barry Boss of firm Cozen O'Connor, said 5Dimes has established a new corporate entity, 5D Americas LLC, in the State of Delaware, as the sportsbook eyes the U.S. betting market. Legal sportsbooks are operating in 18 states and the District of Columbia.
As part of the settlement, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania said, at Varela's request, it will answer questions from interested parties, including state regulatory authorities, regarding 5Dimes and Varela.
Creighton was abducted by four men in a rented grey pickup truck around 10 p.m., on Sept. 24, 2018, after leaving the 5Dimes office in San Pedro, the Costa Rica judicial investigation department (OIJ) said last year. The kidnappers demanded a $5 million ransom and received $1 million from Creighton's family, but Creighton was not returned, OIJ said.
A year after Creighton's disappearance, the OIJ reported finding his body in a cemetery in the small fishing town of Queops, Costa Rica, approximately a three-hour drive from where investigators believe he was abducted.
In January 2019, authorities conducted raids in Costa Rica and Spain, leading to the arrest of 12 people believed to be involved in Creighton's disappearance, according to an OIJ statement at the time. Three suspects were extradited from Spain to Costa Rica in April 2019 and, as of September 2019, were being investigated for the crime of extortive kidnapping, according to the Costa Rica Office of Public Ministry.
The Assistant Prosecutor's Office against Drug Trafficking and Related Crimes for Costa Rica told ESPN in an Sept. 17 email that the case against Creighton's alleged kidnappers is in the "final investigation phase."



According to the settlement, Creighton was the founder and had exclusive control of 5Dimes until his disappearance and death. Varela told ESPN she had never been involved with the operation of 5Dimes and that the management team in place continued to run the sportsbook following Creighton's disappearance.
"Months kept going by, and he was not coming back, and the reality also starts hitting, that's really when I realized the best thing for me and my family to do was to look for legal counsel," Varela told ESPN in an interview conducted on Zoom.
Creighton grew up in Bridgeport, West Virginia. After graduating from West Virginia University in 1998 with a degree in business administration, he moved to Costa Rica with a small group of friends to launch 5Dimes. He was 43 at the time of his disappearance.
Varela says the loss of her husband, the father of her two young children, is a tragedy she doesn't believe she'll ever get over. "You just learn how to live with it," she said.

[princejohnny]

I deposited $6,000 to BAS because I could bet $5000 on the big leagues. Then I got limited to only $500 bets, before I even placed any wagers. I contacted CS and they told me my limits didn't change. The most insulting part is that they just outright lied to me. Obviously my limits changed when my max bet was $5,000 before depositing, and now it is max $500 on all leagues.

Frustrating too because I was able to bet $10,000 at 5dimes just a couple weeks ago. Then all this happens.

I've emailed BAS again and I hope they'll fix this, but if not, I'll be filing and SBR complaint. Will you guys help me here?

[pimike]

I’m wanting them to succeed, however I will hold off on any large deposits till we know more. Especially who supposedly owns them..

[HedgeHog]

Show me this "SBR Denial" Hedgey???

Or if you can't, tell me what exactly you think SBR "denied".


SBR has said no more than what 5D and BAS reps have been telling people. The previous 5Dimes company no longer have any USA customers.

If you think they just spent almost $50,000,000 to clear themselves, but "secretly" are still running BAS... that thought is just about as dumb as you are trying to say 5Dimes are for trying to swindle the Govt they just made a deal with.

The entity running the continuing international 5Dimes presence is obviously still providing the technology and at least part of the administration to BAS. So yes, OF COURSE THEY STILL KNOW YOUR OLD 5DIMES ACOUNT LIMITS.... *DUH* but that is as much as we know for sure right now.

Stand by for an SBR "denial" (or confirmation) some time when we all know for sure who will be running and backing these shops onlging.


But personally, if YOU think this is just 5Dimes by another name... then for gawds sake save us all having to listen to your constant whining and just don't play there. You have the choice. You say its 5Dimes. You say 5Dimes is shit. If you make this choice, keep your complaining to yourself at least *sheesh*

Not sure what set you off. Yes I admit to having a love/hate relationship with 5D. I love their line offerings, but hated some of shady shiit they pulled, especially when exiting the US market. In short, I viewed them as necessary evil as far as outs go. So I'll play at BAS and probably still bitch when they do 5 Dimes type shiit--like cutting limits right after the start of a rollover (took their 50% welcome bonus). As far as that denial that you say never happened:

From SBR Forum:
Correct. The lines are the same as software is common, but it's a separately owned operation. A lot of books share software and technology resources, hosting centers, etc. Interesting point about the lines. Do keep us posted of any feedback if you decide to give them a try.

[PD77]

Anyway, lots of bettors still want access to that platform if they can get it. So let's hope that whoever owns it turns out to as a good of an operator as Tony was.

SBR give BAS an A- rating and “hopes” whoever owns them turns out to be good? Makes sense.

[Optional]

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post29720632

LOL

Is this what you are LOLing at and claim is clearly untrue?

Quote Originally Posted by xKMACKx View Post
According to Wizard of Odds, it's a sister site of 5Dimes:
"BetAnySports is a full-service online betting site that was established in 2016 and serves as a sister site to VietBet, and 5Dimes, which serves a wide array of regions throughout the globe, including Asia and the United States."

From SBR Forum:
Actually, that's not accurate. BetAnySports has existed for years and has been in the rating guide since 2008. The part about Asia is true though, that has been the focus along with ChineseBookie and Vietbet, who use a common software platform.

Quote Originally Posted by fighttoys View Post
I just registered and checked out betanysports.eu and it seems to be the same exact website/format as 5dimes. Had I known I would have just transferred my pending wagers.

From SBR Forum:
Correct. The lines are the same as software is common, but it's a separately owned operation. A lot of books share software and technology resources, hosting centers, etc. Interesting point about the lines. Do keep us posted of any feedback if you decide to give them a try.

Get a grip inspector Clouseau.

[Optional]

Nothing like telling someone else to calm down by freaking out...

Yes, SBR said they are not related beyond having the same software, which is clearly untrue. Do your own forum search for it if you don't remember it..

How is it clearly untrue?

or different to what I said?

BetDSI were in exactly that position with CRIS.


Hedgehog has been non stop whingeing about 5Dimes for god knows how long. Maybe 2 years. It seems to be his entire reason for being here these days.

Now he is sure that BAS is still 5Dimes. About time to take his own bloody advice and not play there eh?



Anyway, lots of bettors still want access to that platform if they can get it. So let's hope that whoever owns it turns out to as a good of an operator as Tony was.

[Barrakuda]

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3621270-can-any-book-beat-bas-their-teaser-rates.html#post29720632

LOL

[Barrakuda]

Nothing like telling someone else to calm down by freaking out...

Yes, SBR said they are not related beyond having the same software, which is clearly untrue. Do your own forum search for it if you don't remember it..

[Optional]

My limits were cut in half after 2 days, matching my previous 5D limits. Same out as 5D despite SBR denial.

Show me this "SBR Denial" Hedgey???

Or if you can't, tell me what exactly you think SBR "denied".


SBR has said no more than what 5D and BAS reps have been telling people. The previous 5Dimes company no longer have any USA customers.

If you think they just spent almost $50,000,000 to clear themselves, but "secretly" are still running BAS... that thought is just about as dumb as you are trying to say 5Dimes are for trying to swindle the Govt they just made a deal with.

The entity running the continuing international 5Dimes presence is obviously still providing the technology and at least part of the administration to BAS. So yes, OF COURSE THEY STILL KNOW YOUR OLD 5DIMES ACOUNT LIMITS.... *DUH* but that is as much as we know for sure right now.

Stand by for an SBR "denial" (or confirmation) some time when we all know for sure who will be running and backing these shops onlging.


But personally, if YOU think this is just 5Dimes by another name... then for gawds sake save us all having to listen to your constant whining and just don't play there. You have the choice. You say its 5Dimes. You say 5Dimes is shit. If you make this choice, keep your complaining to yourself at least *sheesh*

[alta]

BetAnySports operates out of the same building as 5Dimes. 5Dimes gave them all our profile information. Customer Service people knew everything about me before I even told them. So much for protection of your personal information. I was not impressed with their Customer Service via the phone. Always put on hold so the agent could talk to the people I should have been talking to in the first place. I had to call hours after games were final to get results graded when it was not a Big 3 Sporting event. Made one deposit. Think that will be it with them.

[ThaWoj]

I've deposited twice so far, deposits seemed to get credited very quick. I've had 3 chat experiences and 2 of them were very slow. I also don't like how you have to ask to get moved off reduced juice (to the point mover account) to get the same priced teasers as 5d and once you move you can't move ever again to anything else. I play parlays all the time so I'll probably move to the point saver account. I dont care about 2 or 3 cents of reduced juice. It sucks tho that I'll get screwed on teasers.
Also the live dealer is the same exact as 5dimes (and heritage). They do have a 3rd option that her and 5d don't have called lucky dealer with some Asian chicks but it uses flash and my cpu was bogging down and I couldn't even get the live video to play. The other casino games I played were terribly tight. On 5dimes I used to bonus all the time and hit some big hits. Not on this site.

[HedgeHog]

My limits were cut in half after 2 days, matching my previous 5D limits. Same out as 5D despite SBR denial.

[DISTROYA]

I asked them why the limits are so low and exactly the same as 5d and if they are related in any way shape or form to 5 dimes they said they used to be but not anymore end of discussion. Well that solves that