In need of a SOCCER BOOK.

**Cferrat** · 06-15-09, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

In need of a book that offers ML's, Goal Lines, Props, and almost every league in the world and what not.

My book now only offers the MLS and Large world tournaments. Would like to play European leagues and south american leagues also.

I am a american player so needs to be a book for americans.
Deposit using ACH/Instacheck/e-checks.
Only like to play at B rated books or higher.

Any thoughts?

You might want to check the soccerlines that are offered at Bet911.com

**RickySteve** · 06-15-09, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Cferrat

You might want to check the soccerlines that are offered at Bet911.com

Die shill.

**RickySteve** · 06-15-09, 01:48 PM

Do ANY books still use e-checks?

**ZBOIZ** · 06-15-09, 02:55 PM

5dimes..

Best book in the business. Best football, baseball, and soccer

**thespeculator** · 06-15-09, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

5dimes..

Best book in the business. Best football, baseball, and soccer

totally agree , last week 5dimes had lines on iceland soccer, the entire country has 400,000 people, , i haven't seen any african lines , but i wouldn't be surprised to a number on congo league games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

**sportsguy04** · 06-15-09, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

5dimes..

Best book in the business. Best football, baseball, and soccer

They do not let me use echecks untill I have been a customer with them for about 6 months, so what other method of deposit is best? Do they have overnight lines on all sports?

**Negative** · 06-15-09, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

They do not let me use echecks untill I have been a customer with them for about 6 months, so what other method of deposit is best? Do they have overnight lines on all sports?

Sportsbook.com and parents have alot soccer lines . As much as i have never seen in any book. They offer even all arabic leagues . But since you don't want anything less than B you must have thegreek and bookmaker. 5dimes have only a few soccer leagues. But thegreek and bookmaker cover all of theö usually. i have never used 5dimes due their costly withdrawals hence i don't know their odds for soccer.

**sportsguy04** · 06-16-09, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Negative

Sportsbook.com and parents have alot soccer lines . As much as i have never seen in any book. They offer even all arabic leagues . But since you don't want anything less than B you must have thegreek and bookmaker. 5dimes have only a few soccer leagues. But thegreek and bookmaker cover all of theö usually. i have never used 5dimes due their costly withdrawals hence i don't know their odds for soccer.

Yes, only problem is I am only 20 so the greek is out of the question. Thanks though.

**Esco** · 06-16-09, 03:36 PM

Betfair is pretty good

Do NOT use bwin

**Sk1pToMyLoU** · 06-16-09, 07:51 PM

All I bet is Soccer, and i'm in the same boat as you are pretty much being a US player.

Sportsbook.com is THEE Cadillac of books that offer soccer lines. I go around on Euro books to compare lines all the time, and Sportsbook offers games that even they don't.

Another nice thing is, the goal line is always 2.5 unless it's cakewalk games (ex. XXX vs. San Marino)

Basically ANY action you want on Soccer, they have. Game that have 200-800 people in attendance, they have.

Their limits usually include:

$1,000 3 way
$500 Goal line
$500 1H 3 way
$300 Goal line (1.5)

You can cross parlay ALL leagues, or 1H lines. The ONLY knock, is you can't parlay a 3 way up to any goal line.

Good luck in your search!

**sportsguy04** · 06-17-09, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by Sk1pToMyLoU

All I bet is Soccer, and i'm in the same boat as you are pretty much being a US player.

Sportsbook.com is THEE Cadillac of books that offer soccer lines. I go around on Euro books to compare lines all the time, and Sportsbook offers games that even they don't.

Another nice thing is, the goal line is always 2.5 unless it's cakewalk games (ex. XXX vs. San Marino)

Basically ANY action you want on Soccer, they have. Game that have 200-800 people in attendance, they have.

Their limits usually include:

$1,000 3 way
$500 Goal line
$500 1H 3 way
$300 Goal line (1.5)

You can cross parlay ALL leagues, or 1H lines. The ONLY knock, is you can't parlay a 3 way up to any goal line.

Good luck in your search!

Thanks for the great info.. Only problem is they are rated a D- on SBR. That scares me a bit.

**sportsguy04** · 06-18-09, 01:39 AM

Anybody use Bodog?

Im about to register with them for everything looks good.

B Rating, deposit via prepaid **** card. Free 1xmonth cashout via Fed Ex or DHL.

Wasnt there problems with them a year or so ago? What were those problems, get them fixed?

**Negative** · 06-18-09, 01:48 AM

Do they have alot soccer for you indeed ? whatevah , soon their bodog88 asian site will be working fully . At the moment they have only bank wire though . Won't you go to sportsbook.com for soccer activities?

**sportsguy04** · 06-18-09, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Negative

Do they have alot soccer for you indeed ? whatevah , soon their bodog88 asian site will be working fully . At the moment they have only bank wire though . Won't you go to sportsbook.com for soccer activities?

Sportsbook.com is rated a D- on SBR, I cant be playing at a book that low. Bodog has almost all of the soccer leagues and almost everything that ask.

**Barbarian** · 07-29-09, 12:42 PM

for tons of props on soccer I would suggest to look at reputable Russian book fonbet.info

**Esco** · 07-29-09, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Barbarian

for tons of props on soccer I would suggest to look at reputable Russian book fonbet.info

Are you sure you wanna use 'Russian' and 'reputable' in the same sentence??!!

Nothing against Russians, I love them (especially their women), but I think thats a stretch

**UV82** · 07-29-09, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

5dimes..

Best book in the business. Best football, baseball, and soccer

You are not serious - are you?

**UV82** · 07-29-09, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by thespeculator

totally agree , last week 5dimes had lines on iceland soccer, the entire country has 400,000 people, , i haven't seen any african lines , but i wouldn't be surprised to a number on congo league games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

and you will let you bet a whole $50 on it... they are pathetic in soccer

**Barbarian** · 07-29-09, 04:24 PM

A or B rated books gained their level because they do not give any gifts.
If you want good shopping - props might be best place to fish.
Fonbet operates for a decade. Their payout time - 24h (Webmoney).

**UV82** · 07-29-09, 04:26 PM

Bodog is good

**Toit** · 07-29-09, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Barbarian

for tons of props on soccer I would suggest to look at reputable Russian book fonbet.info

My experience is that Fonbet limits most players to pennies within a few bets.

**Barbarian** · 07-29-09, 04:44 PM

some B and C book are also limiting to pennies players who win, so what?
do not criticise - suggest better places

**linglingfool** · 07-29-09, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

Anybody use Bodog? 
 
Im about to register with them for everything looks good. 
 
B Rating, deposit via prepaid **** card. Free 1xmonth cashout via Fed Ex or DHL. 
 
Wasnt there problems with them a year or so ago? What were those problems, get them fixed?

There was a payment processor that more than one placed used that ran into some trouble with money being frozen, so payments ended up getting delayed a few weeks. Those problems are long gone.

**Toit** · 07-29-09, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Barbarian

some B and C book are also limiting to pennies players who win, so what?
do not criticise - suggest better places

So what?
I just wouldn't advice a book that limits that fast, that's all.

-Betfair -as mentioned- no limits if there's enough supply- but a chance on having to pay premium charges if you win too much.
-188bet, although they're (like most asians bookies) late with posting their lines.
-Betcris, 175€ limit on smaller leagues, although I personally don't consider Europe League qualifying a small league.

**Barbarian** · 07-29-09, 05:44 PM

Betfair, 188bet, Betcris have pathetic range of props on soccer

**kmarinouofm** · 07-29-09, 05:49 PM

ok i am in your shoes i am a american and love to bet soccer and know all the headaches that come with this.. i have spent countless hours on looking for a good soccer book and i will share everything with you now..

Bodog.. is a good book.. but its not an option for soccer.. they offer most leagues, but not all.. and they almost ALWAYS do not have asian lines.. just 1 x 2

5dimes is very much like bodog.. they have many of the same lines and usually only offer 1 x 2

so in my opinion you cant play soccer seriously at the above books..

this is what i do.. i have an account at BetPhoenix, the Greek, & betUS that i use JUST FOR SOCCER..

BetUS usually has the earliest lines.. and offer just about every game there is.. if they don't have the game.. the 9 time out of 10 I can find it on BetPhoenix..

I use the Greek because it was my first book i started using for Soccer.. but sometimes The Greek only offers Asian odds.. they don't always have a 1 x 2 bet on soccer.. So i shop around between BetUs and BetPhoenix to find what i am looking for..

I guess what i am trying to tell you that there is no 1 Amazing book for Soccer here in the US.. if you HAD to choose just ONE.. then your choice is really between betphoenix and betus.. these are hands down the best 2 books for soccer here in the U.S. betus will actually have live soccer betting for the bigger matches.. something no other book offers that i have seen so far here in the U.S.

the best thing you can do is open an account at all 3.. but if you don't want to do that .. then choose between betphoenix or betus..

**Esco** · 07-29-09, 06:12 PM

Betting Exchange(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_exchange

**andrea** · 07-31-09, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Barbarian

Betfair, 188bet, Betcris have pathetic range of props on soccer

In addition to this, 12bet and ladbrokers..

**Davaro** · 08-04-09, 10:27 AM

Betphoenix better juices than anyone in soccer, cant be compared to BetUS

**Davaro** · 08-04-09, 10:56 AM

For example on Champions League Today:

Sivasspor vs Anderlecht

BetUS PK -130 comeback evens

Bodog no handicap

Betphoenix PK -128 comeback +110

On 1st fixture of premiership:

BetUS

Wolverhampton PK -125 comeback +105

Betphoenix PK -112 Comeback +106

Other difference is that BetUS don’t use Asian Odds Betphoenix do.

**Braziliano** · 08-04-09, 11:10 AM

betfair and bet365

**kmarinouofm** · 08-04-09, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Davaro

For example on Champions League Today:

Sivasspor vs Anderlecht

BetUS PK -130 comeback evens

Bodog no handicap

Betphoenix PK -128 comeback +110

On 1st fixture of premiership:

BetUS

Wolverhampton PK -125 comeback +105

Betphoenix PK -112 Comeback +106

Other difference is that BetUS don’t use Asian Odds Betphoenix do.

BetUS does use asian odds.. you just listed them in front of all of us..

BetUS Comeback evens pk -130 (thats an asian odd.. the pk, eliminating the draw)

i didn't say one was better then the other.. i am just saying you need both.. You are right most of the time betphoenix is better. but not always man...today there was one or two o/u that betus had a better price on..

the key is to have as many as possible.

**Davaro** · 08-04-09, 11:34 AM

Juice on Betphoenix always better than them, when I say Asian Odds I mean Asian Handicap, 0 and 0.5 (0.25), 0.5 and 1 (0.75), PK is normal handicap. But yes is good to have several accounts