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  • R40
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-18-17
    • 203

    #1
    YouWager
    I decided to give YouWager a try this football season. Looks like a pretty interesting place to bet.

    How often is the wheel spin and what it the rollover on your free plays when you win them?

    I got wheel spins for my deposits and added free plays but might have gotten screwed on those depending on the rollover.
  • Crusherrr
    SBR MVP
    • 06-27-16
    • 3649

    #2
    Rollover is usually 4.5x + 30 day hold.

    Wheel spins are posted under the calendar on home page. They have a bunch of them coming up for football season/holidays.

    Youwager is a great site.
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    • R40
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-18-17
      • 203

      #3
      Originally posted by Crusherrr
      Rollover is usually 4.5x + 30 day hold.

      Wheel spins are posted under the calendar on home page. They have a bunch of them coming up for football season/holidays.

      Youwager is a great site.
      Yeah 4.5x. But is that based on the free play value or the free value and the value of your account. If they just doubled my rollover on these things, I took a screwing.
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      • themike78
        SBR MVP
        • 07-01-13
        • 4873

        #4
        Originally posted by R40
        Yeah 4.5x. But is that based on the free play value or the free value and the value of your account. If they just doubled my rollover on these things, I took a screwing.
        If your spins came with a deposit than it is the deposit amount also I believe. You can cash out winnings at any time though. At least you used to be able to. I haven't taken any bonuses there in years. They are one of the best books though. They are probably the fastest paying non Bitcoin only book.
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        • R40
          SBR High Roller
          • 07-18-17
          • 203

          #5
          Originally posted by themike78
          If your spins came with a deposit than it is the deposit amount also I believe. You can cash out winnings at any time though. At least you used to be able to. I haven't taken any bonuses there in years. They are one of the best books though. They are probably the fastest paying non Bitcoin only book.
          Yes, you can take out the winnings at any time which is what most people focus on. I am sure the rollover will be based on my deposit. The question is whether the spins added another 4.5 to my rollover so I now have a 9x rollover. I'm guessing and hoping not.

          I know free plays are going to add to your rollover. I have to assume they base the rollover on some portion of your account value. But simply adding the 4.5x to your rollover on the value of the free play and another 30 days before withdrawal may be sufficient.

          YouWager is a very clever book. I am not sure they want people to know this information. They don't really address it.
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          • themike78
            SBR MVP
            • 07-01-13
            • 4873

            #6
            Originally posted by R40
            Yes, you can take out the winnings at any time which is what most people focus on. I am sure the rollover will be based on my deposit. The question is whether the spins added another 4.5 to my rollover so I now have a 9x rollover. I'm guessing and hoping not.

            I know free plays are going to add to your rollover. I have to assume they base the rollover on some portion of your account value. But simply adding the 4.5x to your rollover on the value of the free play and another 30 days before withdrawal may be sufficient.

            YouWager is a very clever book. I am not sure they want people to know this information. They don't really address it.
            Yeah it should remain a 4.5 time rollover. This is why I don't take any bonuses though. So many confusing rules. I just like to deposit bet and than cash out. I guess they are ok if you plan on leaving the money in there for a while though.
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            • R40
              SBR High Roller
              • 07-18-17
              • 203

              #7
              Originally posted by themike78
              Yeah it should remain a 4.5 time rollover. This is why I don't take any bonuses though. So many confusing rules. I just like to deposit bet and than cash out. I guess they are ok if you plan on leaving the money in there for a while though.
              Should be. If not, I played this very poorly. Had no idea I was going to be getting spins.

              The wheel is pure genius though. People keep spinning the wheel and there is no way they can ever withdraw their deposit. Eventually they bet it away because the amount they bet is going to be way more than the rollover on the free play.

              If they add significantly to the rollover, they are really pulling one over on people.
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              • temple2010
                SBR MVP
                • 03-16-10
                • 1369

                #8
                Originally posted by R40
                Should be. If not, I played this very poorly. Had no idea I was going to be getting spins.

                The wheel is pure genius though. People keep spinning the wheel and there is no way they can ever withdraw their deposit. Eventually they bet it away because the amount they bet is going to be way more than the rollover on the free play.

                If they add significantly to the rollover, they are really pulling one over on people.
                Never curse the wheel, the wheel is your friend!!
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                • 5918mike
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-16-14
                  • 1885

                  #9
                  Originally posted by R40
                  they are really pulling one over on people.
                  Nah, as long as it's all disclosed, and it is, it's up to the individual to know the rules and how they work. They don't force you to take the bonus or spin the wheel.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61396

                    #10
                    Originally posted by R40
                    they are really pulling one over on people.
                    If you really think that and havent bet yet, email and ask for the bonus to be cancelled.

                    Sounds like you dont even know the conditions of the offer you took though, so not sure I would be calling them out quite so fast.
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                    • R40
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 07-18-17
                      • 203

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      If you really think that and havent bet yet, email and ask for the bonus to be cancelled.

                      Sounds like you dont even know the conditions of the offer you took though, so not sure I would be calling them out quite so fast.
                      That's the thing. You can't find the conditions. I was under an assumption when I deposited but can't tell if that applies or not and haven't been able to get an answer yet out of YouWager. I'm not sure how much YouWager employees even under the terms.
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                      • Crusherrr
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-27-16
                        • 3649

                        #12
                        If the wheel spins were when you first signed up then the email you received from customer service should clearly state 4.5x rollover. It should be on the free play+deposit. If you deposited $500. Got $250 in free play and $200 from wheel spins it would be 4.5x $950. Pretty reasonable terms if you ask me.
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                        • R40
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-18-17
                          • 203

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Crusherrr
                          If the wheel spins were when you first signed up then the email you received from customer service should clearly state 4.5x rollover. It should be on the free play+deposit. If you deposited $500. Got $250 in free play and $200 from wheel spins it would be 4.5x $950. Pretty reasonable terms if you ask me.
                          I'm assuming it will work that way. I'm going to spin the wheel and take them all and hope for the best. If they get the better of me, I will give them credit and not give them any more money if I get the short end of the stick.
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                          • thomorino
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-01-17
                            • 45842

                            #14
                            I've heard mixed things about youwager, there was one person who reported a delayed payment.
                            Last edited by thomorino; 08-04-17, 10:30 PM.
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61396

                              #15
                              Originally posted by R40

                              That's the thing. You can't find the conditions. I was under an assumption when I deposited but can't tell if that applies or not and haven't been able to get an answer yet out of YouWager. I'm not sure how much YouWager employees even under the terms.
                              I thought it was normally the deposit amount plus half the bonus amount plus any fees * 4.5.

                              If you would like to shoot in your account details on a sportsbook complaint form an SBR rep may be able to help you work it out for certain.
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                              • R40
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-18-17
                                • 203

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                I thought it was normally the deposit amount plus half the bonus amount plus any fees * 4.5.

                                If you would like to shoot in your account details on a sportsbook complaint form an SBR rep may be able to help you work it out for certain.
                                That is for your initial deposit which I am not concerned about. The question is YouWager policy on the free plays they give in various ways. They give them out all year long. How do those affect the rollover? Do they only apply to the free play amount you come away with and not greatly increase your rollover?

                                Given how popular YouWager is with its wheel spins I have to assume they only apply to the additional free play and the regular extension of 30 days on withdrawal works out for them.

                                I deposited there to find out what it was all about and see how I would make out. So I will find out through experience one way or the other.
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                                • R40
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 07-18-17
                                  • 203

                                  #17
                                  Looking at the YouWager calendar, I am going to get a free play once per month until April. That does not even count my wheel spins so I know I will not be able to withdraw my deposit until at least May since I am taking all of them. YouWager is the Hotel California.
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                                  • JAKEPEAVY21
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-11-11
                                    • 29268

                                    #18
                                    you can cash out winnings so not a big deal.

                                    youwager and betpop are great bonus books that pay quickly.
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                                    • dark star
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 3900

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      I've heard mixed things about youwager, there was one person who reported a delayed payment.
                                      Really?Betpop has always paid me quickly
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                                      • R40
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 07-18-17
                                        • 203

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                        you can cash out winnings so not a big deal.

                                        youwager and betpop are great bonus books that pay quickly.
                                        Yes. I knew I would hear that. It is a big deal if you never see your deposit again. But at this point, I am confident they do not greatly increase rollovers on these free plays because they don't need to. Not many will make it out alive.
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 29268

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by R40
                                          Yes. I knew I would hear that. It is a big deal if you never see your deposit again. But at this point, I am confident they do not greatly increase rollovers on these free plays because they don't need to. Not many will make it out alive.
                                          clear your rollover prior to each promo, cashout in full then redeposit.

                                          another option is scalping/arbing to another book where you can cashout sooner.
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                                          • R40
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 07-18-17
                                            • 203

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                            clear your rollover prior to each promo, cashout in full then redeposit.

                                            another option is scalping/arbing to another book where you can cashout sooner.
                                            I don't have that kind of volume. I'll just play it straight and see how it goes. If they don't extend rollovers, I will be happy to give them my money if they can take it. If they extend rollovers, they will not get another dollar.
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                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 03-11-11
                                              • 29268

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by R40
                                              I don't have that kind of volume. I'll just play it straight and see how it goes. If they don't extend rollovers, I will be happy to give them my money if they can take it. If they extend rollovers, they will not get another dollar.
                                              might be a good idea to find out this info PRIOR to depositing next time...
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                                              • R40
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-18-17
                                                • 203

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                might be a good idea to find out this info PRIOR to depositing next time...
                                                Like where? Nobody has a clue. Worst case scenario I can just bet it out to another book on half points.
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                                                • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-11-11
                                                  • 29268

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by R40
                                                  Like where? Nobody has a clue. Worst case scenario I can just bet it out to another book on half points.
                                                  try calling or going on live chat...where there's a will, there's a way

                                                  not rocket science pal
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                                                  • R40
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 07-18-17
                                                    • 203

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                    try calling or going on live chat...where there's a will, there's a way

                                                    not rocket science pal
                                                    I have called, I have live chatted, I have emailed. I have asked people that have account at YouWager. Nobody has the slightest damn clue.
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                                                    • themike78
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-01-13
                                                      • 4873

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                                      I've heard mixed things about youwager, there was one person who reported a delayed payment.
                                                      I think that was one person freaking out because the money transfer service was down for 1 day, which happens from time to time in this industry. I have been with youwager for about 15 years and not once had any issues getting paid or delay payments. In fact they are 1 of the fastest paying books out there and the only one I know that does P2P on Saturdays. I would trust them over any other book.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61396

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by R40

                                                        Like where? Nobody has a clue. Worst case scenario I can just bet it out to another book on half points.
                                                        Nobody has a clue to the answer to your question because you did not explain properly and then what you have made up in your head is so un-intuitive people dont get what you are saying.

                                                        Here's the answer. NO
                                                        , Youwager do not force rollover on the same deposit multiple times when you take a new freeplay or wheel spin. Where would you even come up with that idea and no wonder CS people have had trouble confirming this for you.
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                                                        • R40
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 07-18-17
                                                          • 203

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                                          Nobody has a clue to the answer to your question because you did not explain properly and then what you have made up in your head is so un-intuitive people dont get what you are saying.

                                                          Here's the answer. NO
                                                          , Youwager do not force rollover on the same deposit multiple times when you take a new freeplay or wheel spin. Where would you even come up with that idea and no wonder CS people have had trouble confirming this for you.
                                                          LOL. I just got off chat and guy told me two 50 free plays would result in additional rollover of almost $5,000.

                                                          I know what my rollover is now and think I will just stick with it. This stuff is clear as mud.
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61396

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by R40

                                                            LOL. I just got off chat and guy told me two 50 free plays would result in additional rollover of almost $5,000.

                                                            I know what my rollover is now and think I will just stick with it. This stuff is clear as mud.
                                                            He must not understand. I think it could be the way you are asking maybe. Or maybe I still don't understand what you mean either.

                                                            if you give me the full details of your deposit amount and previous bonus, and confirm what you are asking is how much will a wheel spin freeplay affect your current rollover, then we should be able to work this out accurately.

                                                            Or shoot in that complaint form if you prefer to do it privately.
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                                                            • R40
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 07-18-17
                                                              • 203

                                                              #31
                                                              I presented my question as I expected the result to be and was told that was not how it worked and it would be based on your entire balance. That's what they told me. I am sure it is wrong. But I was specifically told that was not how it worked.

                                                              This is a customer service question but they immediately pass to sales. Sales only knows deposit info.It is tough to get answers when you have to work through a middle getting info from someone else.

                                                              It would be better if it were answered here.

                                                              Lets just use an example of depositing $200 and getting a $100 bonus. You make no further deposits and take a free play. Your rollover at beginning will be $1,125 as I understand it.

                                                              What is your rollover if you take a $25 free play on August 24? They convert to $12 cash on a free play so answer should be $1,179.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61396

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by R40
                                                                I presented my question as I expected the result to be and was told that was not how it worked and it would be based on your entire balance. That's what they told me. I am sure it is wrong. But I was specifically told that was not how it worked.

                                                                This is a customer service question but they immediately pass to sales. Sales only knows deposit info.It is tough to get answers when you have to work through a middle getting info from someone else.

                                                                It would be better if it were answered here.

                                                                Lets just use an example of depositing $200 and getting a $100 bonus. You make no further deposits and take a free play. Your rollover at beginning will be $1,125 as I understand it.

                                                                What is your rollover if you take a $25 free play on August 24? They convert to $12 cash on a free play so answer should be $1,179.
                                                                ^^^ That is exactly what I think happens too.

                                                                And pretty sure it will happen that way whatever the sales rep guy said. Sometimes I think it's best to use email to give the person more thinking time when it gets a bit complicated.
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                                                                • R40
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-18-17
                                                                  • 203

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  ^^^ That is exactly what I think happens too.

                                                                  And pretty sure it will happen that way whatever the sales rep guy said. Sometimes I think it's best to use email to give the person more thinking time when it gets a bit complicated.
                                                                  This stuff is pretty complex and YouWager definitely does a lot different than anyone else. It's very hard to explain this sort of thing even when you understand and very few reps do.

                                                                  If that is the case, it is certainly generous and I wish I had deposited there sooner. You really have to be on the inside to see the advantage of the place.

                                                                  Sportsbooks do not like to use email to explain this sort of thing because then the customer has something in writing and they provide so much wrong info it is a real liability.
                                                                  Last edited by R40; 08-05-17, 07:27 PM.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61396

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I think the only downside to the wheel spin is locking up withdraws for a month. Never heard ANYONE bitch about Youwager rollover, so pretty confident you wont be phukked the way the rep said if you do spin.

                                                                    Let us know?
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                                                                    • R40
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 07-18-17
                                                                      • 203

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      I think the only downside to the wheel spin is locking up withdraws for a month. Never heard ANYONE bitch about Youwager rollover, so pretty confident you wont be phukked the way the rep said if you do spin.

                                                                      Let us know?
                                                                      Yes, that's key to it all. If you take the spins and the free plays, you can never get out.
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