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[mbynwa]

I hope you get this sorted nitzantal. I know the feeling about thinking every pick you choose might be considered steam, i had the exact same problem with DimeLine.

I didn't even know what the term steam meant i had to ask them to explain it, in the end i pulled my money out and will never go back. I would be inclined to agree with vitalyo, who posted a very good and well thought out piece and just withdraw your money and move to The Greek or Pinnacles, somewhere where you know you won't be considered a 'steam player'

[mbynwa]

Carl recruits people here and on other professional forums, what does he think that he will find only recreational players? If that is what he is after he must say that … and if not this thread will reveal the truth.
If you read between the lines you can understand that Carl is not happy either with what’s going on … because he is really a good guy and in IMO he will be out of 911 in no time, he is miles above them and he is not a match for them… but Carl will have the following wherever he goes because he is the agent of good and the other people at 911 are the agents of evil… after all they are not rated D for no reason.

This is a very interesting point. Carl is advertising heavily on bonus whoring sites in the UK. As UV82 says what kind of player does he think he will get? you won't get long term players, you will just get players who come in grab the bonus and are gone.

Carl - I would like your take on this, yes i know you say the winners pay the losers, but with most of these books that advertise nice bonuses, they all fail. Why will Bet911 be any different?

[nitzantal]

OK some update on this issue ... I tried to contact Carl during the past 2 days to put this matter to an end one way or another but I was told that he is out of the office.

... anyways the I catted to Robert who insisted that he can help as he knew my case well ... to cut a long story short, Robert resotred my bet limit and we are hopefully back to some kind of happy ending ... only time will tell... I will keep you posted.

[UV82]

Carl was out of the office for 2 days ???? and we also heard from here him here at all ... he is usually here every day... is he looking for a job? if he is out then B911 are finished.... gone .... history.... he was Bet911, he made Bet911 what they are today ... he turned them around from Zero to Hero in no time... he will get a job anywhere at any cost...

[Cferrat]

Still havent heard from Carl - set me free... please

Hey Nitzan...I see that you are back up to speed on the limits...that is great! I am glad that I could work it out for you!

[Cferrat]

Wait a minute .
911 should advertise we want JOE Shmoe losers here .
And if you deposit 10-20 K and lose half or more of your deposit ,we will cut your limits to $50 that way you will never get your money back .

And what is the soft lines? We don't put them out . Books do . Then they should have a rule for it (+4.5 don't bet this game we will cut you off ,take -4.5 and if you win we will accuse you of been soft line bettor ) And what if i beat them on so called "Hard lines " they can easily accuse me that i was betting soft lines or been PRO BETTOR .Books are the one who defines this lines soft ,hard . In order not to pay you ,or screw you over . Some of you had guts to come out and defend 911.
What is the player done wrong here ? Donated 6K to the shady book . That gave him no fare chance to get it back.
Most of us define our self's as a PRO right . We say to our self "I know what i am doing " i can beat them . 911 just gave you a pill " PRO" tried to beat us . Most of swallowed with a smile . What are you expecting for the guy to come out and say NO i am not a PRO i lost 200 k in the last 3 years . Well i don't know if he is a Pro or Not it actually doesn't matter . They could of stop him after 2-3 bets . Right and drop his limits .

Cferrat is battling top management for the player rights . Poster above mentioned Good vs Evil . Good will win . I hope .
Are you out of your mind ?
This is the business model . Cferrat gets paid to hang around SBR . You think he is doing it on his spare time ??? Maybe if the presser from above way too high . You know Cferrat from high school ?

From what i see the player got ****ed .

How long 911 is been around ? Book going out of business right after Super Ball sounds familiar . I am not saying 911 will . But i wouldn't take my chances .

Nitzan my advice !!! what ever left in your account take it out .
Where is guarantee that if you win (get you money back) that they will pay .
They might accuse you of been soft line PRO bettor at the best you will see your deposit credited back , i doubt .
As i said before this is the business model .

PLS excuse for my grammar English is nor my 1st language .

Vitalyo I am sure that the players know that I am a Manager here at Bet911, I do get paid of course and we don't mind that players win ....we just have to protect ourselves from ...wise guys..or profesional players and we have many sharp players here at Bet911 they win and they get paid... simple as that sir! So come in and try us out..you won't have any complaints, I'm sure.

[Cferrat]

Vitalyo - first time in a long time that I hear someone with some sense and energy which I like well said Vitalyo - I second every word.

Themajormt, which bookies are you working for ? I nearly started crying when you told us how considerate we should be towards those poor, little, weak, fragile bookies. All of sudden we clients need to defend the weak Bookmakers… shame … I m choking from tears … they are the weak ones and we the clients are the strong ones ripping them off, catching them with bad lines, right, themajormt?

if they a run business they should master their game better than their clients… they have the money, they have the muscle and they should be on tops of their game … what is this crap with ‘we only cater for recreational player’ – you mean you only cater for customers who lose money, right? Winners are not welcome… try and tell that loudly to the public and see if anyone signs up with you.

Themajormt, if they don’t make money they will not be in business so we must make sure that we lose so that they stay in business… I haven’t heard so much bulldust in my life …you are not really serious are you Themajormt? Ask any gambler:”Mr Gambler when you place a bet with a Bookmaker don’t you really hope that it loses so that the Bookmakers stays in business?” guys you are out of yr mind… and the fact that even BetPhoenix and many other books do that … does it make it right ???


Carl recruits people here and on other professional forums, what does he think that he will find only recreational players? If that is what he is after he must say that … and if not this thread will reveal the truth.
If you read between the lines you can understand that Carl is not happy either with what’s going on … because he is really a good guy and in IMO he will be out of 911 in no time, he is miles above them and he is not a match for them… but Carl will have the following wherever he goes because he is the agent of good and the other people at 911 are the agents of evil… after all they are not rated D for no reason.

The reason that Themajormt is stepping up to the plate for us is not because he is trying to make a good impression on us ...he is happy as a player here and has been paid in full each and every time he has won...like "all" players here..we try to do our best for our players and when they win we pay them, we also try to give good service and its not too complcated to figure out that no book will keep a guy who is winning by betting steam or soft numbers...but we will continue to do what we have ben and we will come out on top! As far as our rating that will change in the near future...because we have earnt it!

[Cferrat]

PS.And how many bets did he made that they came to conclusion "he is the soft line bettor" IF HE IS ,it would require at least 100 -300 bets . Looks like the player got bad streak and they jump on it to cut him off just to make sure he will never get his money back. For Pinny,Greek ,5Dimes 6 k is nothing . But this guys are all over his "Pro" ass.
Randomly with few bets , I would say at least one out 10 will fall in this category .

If i were you i would start trend " Don't give 911 a cent "

Get the rest of you money out and start over with A book .

GL.

I don't know who you are and you have obviously not played here and if you did you would probably change your mind...so don't judge us unless you have tried us....

[Cferrat]

I m not betting there at the moment because I m scared that every bet I take they will say it is a STEAM - BTW this the first time I hear this term ... now at least I know what I am ... A PRO STEAM BETTOR.

I v got a balance $2400 there which I d like to withdraw but Carl is not making contact with me to arrange this... I lost $6K there - I m not interested betting $50 or even $250 with a book that feels that every bet I take is potentially a bad line ... not a good feeling ... and I d like to end this amicably manner and get my money out (I know that there is a roll to complete which they will have to forgive me as I have no intention of doing with such a low limit - it is a torture... in any case they won enough from me and perhaps it would be wise of them to let me go while they are up )

Nitzan first of all I would like to apologize for not answering you sooner and you know that I am here for you when you need me ...your limits are now back up to the normal amount and you don't need to worry sir ...if you want your money please check with accounting and they will be glad to help you with withdrawing your funds..its not like we are going to treat you anyway other than the way you have always been treated here with courtesy andd respect and if you win you will be paid, guaranteed!

[Cferrat]

I hope you get this sorted nitzantal. I know the feeling about thinking every pick you choose might be considered steam, i had the exact same problem with DimeLine.

I didn't even know what the term steam meant i had to ask them to explain it, in the end i pulled my money out and will never go back. I would be inclined to agree with vitalyo, who posted a very good and well thought out piece and just withdraw your money and move to The Greek or Pinnacles, somewhere where you know you won't be considered a 'steam player'

well mbynwa for a guy who plays with us and just made a deposit it seems that you are not happy here so why come back in and while you are telling the guys here to pull out and play at the Greek then why don't you mention how much you have won(8000+) here and which limitations we have applied to your account....none.

[themajormt]

NO book will allow a player to bet MAX on steam plays... You guys are all a bunch of women... If you were betting your OWN plays it wouldnt be a problem!

[Cferrat]

This is a very interesting point. Carl is advertising heavily on bonus whoring sites in the UK. As UV82 says what kind of player does he think he will get? you won't get long term players, you will just get players who come in grab the bonus and are gone.

Carl - I would like your take on this, yes i know you say the winners pay the losers, but with most of these books that advertise nice bonuses, they all fail. Why will Bet911 be any different?

We have players from all over the world and we have all kinds of players...we know that some will win and others lose...they fail because they don't watch for these steam players or sharp guys that try to take advantage and they end up on the wrong side of the game...we are carefull and watch out for our good players always..

[Cferrat]

Carl was out of the office for 2 days ???? and we also heard from here him here at all ... he is usually here every day... is he looking for a job? if he is out then B911 are finished.... gone .... history.... he was Bet911, he made Bet911 what they are today ... he turned them around from Zero to Hero in no time... he will get a job anywhere at any cost...

I would like to set you all at ease and let you know that I am here to stay ...I will not be going anywhere else..I did take two days off to take my kids on a short vacation ...As you may or may not know, I am the Manager here and they fully appreciate my efforts and experience here at Bet911...We will be coming up on the ratings here soon also which might make you feel better about us as a book..But I will say this, we are here to stay and we will do it all right to assure that we get what we have coming. Most important to us are you guys and gals which play with us want you to know that you are safe here at Bet911, so enjoy and good luck!!

[Cferrat]

NO book will allow a player to bet MAX on steam plays... You guys are all a bunch of women... If you were betting your OWN plays it wouldnt be a problem!

Thank you, sir and you are 100% correct on that!

[Cferrat]

Ok Carl is back and we have another great deal for you guys ...we will now start to do six packs on NFL sundays.....so place 5 wagers on NFL and I will add another 25 freeplay to your account to be on NFL....a great deal!

[Cferrat]

The way the NFL six-pack is going to work is like this.....
When you place five straight wagers on the spread or total of any NFL game for 25 or more...you get the sixth on free...for 25. (You can use the 25 freeplay on NCAA footbal if you like.)
You can do this as many times as you like as long as its not on the same game..."a great deal". Enjoy!

[Cferrat]

I am sorry to say that I made a mistake on the NFL six-pack promo....it is as follows.

The way the NFL six-pack is going to work is like this.....
When you place five straight wagers on the spread or total of any NFL game for 100 or more...you get the sixth on free...for 25. (You can use the 25 freeplay on NCAA footbal if you like.)

[Cferrat]

So its Sunday and another day of NFL and we will be giving the six-pack just to make it a bit more fun for our players and we will bw diong this for NCAA football also on Saturday.....so we are giving you a little more to make it better for everyone...

[Cferrat]

FLASH...we have now integrated the moneybookers to our site at the cashier, so you can now deposit directly from the cashier at Bet911, I am glad that we have it up and running, for your convenience. Also don't forget that moneybookers is offering a bonus to you when you fund your moneybookers account, so you get a bonus there and here.....

[Padael]

Moneybookers 1% bonus is a fake ... the conditions attached to this bonus means that most people do not get a bonus.

[mbynwa]

FLASH...we have now integrated the moneybookers to our site at the cashier, so you can now deposit directly from the cashier at Bet911, I am glad that we have it up and running, for your convenience. Also don't forget that moneybookers is offering a bonus to you when you fund your moneybookers account, so you get a bonus there and here.....

Nice one Carl that will make it easier to deposit.

[Cferrat]

Moneybookers 1% bonus is a fake ... the conditions attached to this bonus means that most people do not get a bonus.

I will check on this to assure that you all get it and I will also check on the conditions atached to this bonus....

[Cferrat]

Nice one Carl that will make it easier to deposit.

Yes and it will also allow you to deposit anytime you like....

[Cferrat]

FLASH...we have now integrated the moneybookers to our site at the cashier, so you can now deposit directly from the cashier at Bet911, I am glad that we have it up and running, for your convenience. Also don't forget that moneybookers is offering a bonus to you when you fund your moneybookers account, so you get a bonus there and here.....

Ok heres the link to the offer that Moneybookers gives thier clients...just sending it so you can get a better deal every which way...

[Cferrat]

here it is....

http://www.bet911.com/Banking/VIP_Programme.pdf

[Cferrat]

Well its another 1/2 point Tuesday and I would like to ivite you all to take advantage of this great offer!

[Santo]

Do free 1/2 points apply to straight wagers only, or also parlays?

[Cferrat]

Do free 1/2 points apply to straight wagers only, or also parlays?

Yes sir on straight wager placed on the spread or total....

[Cferrat]

Today is Wednesday and you get -105 juice today on all football, spread or total...and as a special for today only for all existing and new customers, I will give you an additional 10% freeplay with no rollover on all deposits of $500 or more....

[Frank]

How long are credit card deposits gonna be down for?

[Cferrat]

How long are credit card deposits gonna be down for?

We are working on that now, but its not an easy task, I will let everyone know as soon as its up....

[Cferrat]

Thursday is the reduced juice day -105 so take advantage of this perk and get better prices...

[Cferrat]

I was just informed that I have been neglectful to my players…I should have given informed you all before. We have a promotion that we offer our player that’s called..
Member Rewards Program….
You need to send an email to accounting@bet911.com to have them put you on these programs. It is your responsibility to inform us when you are to receive these perks…
Member Rewards Program….
For every 100 wagers placed we calculate the average wager and then place a freeplay for that amount in your account “once a month” and then we have another program called…
Loss recovery program..
Every six-months (First week of August and within a week after the Super Bowl); IF your account is in a negative position, you will receive a FREE-PLAY Matching Deposit bonus.
Bet911.com defines a “negative balance” as the entire member’s deposits, minus the payouts, less the member’s current balance. If your account is in a “negative position”, as defined in this paragraph, you will receive a FREE-PLAY equal to 10% of the net losses for 6-month period under consideration…just another way of making it better for all of you here at Bet911….Always the best!

[Cferrat]

I have been told by several players that they did not see the additional 10% freeplay bonus yesterday and although we did have many who took it, many did not. So for the benefit of those that did “not” get a chance to take it…I will extend it to those players that missed out on it…so Today only and to those that did not take it yesterday I will give existing and new customers the additional 10% freeplay bonus (no rollover) which is on top of the regular bonuses that we offer…this will be a special bonus from me to you. So good luck!

[Cferrat]

Hey guys and gals you can now send GBP or Euros thru your neteller account, as always we are looking to make it better for you everyway that we can! If you should have any questions feel free to contact us here at Bet911 and we will be glad to sort it out with you.