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  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 61374

    #36
    Originally posted by raiders72001
    Paxful and Localbitcoins are great. There are some things that you should be aware of. Some will make 100s of micro-transactions so it looks as though they have a lot of buys/sells. Then they will scam using Paypal or gift cards such as Amazon. Some gift cards are reversible.

    Check how long a person has been trading and the dollar amount. If you do that, you should be safe.
    They all should be.

    From the outside the giftcard system looks like a scam where the issuer is encouraging/enabling crime as a profit center.
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    • getlucky2win
      SBR MVP
      • 01-14-12
      • 1119

      #37
      Be very careful with gift cards. All kinds of scams
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #38
        I wonder if Glidera will be available in more states now that it has been bought by Kraken?
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        • PharaohUB
          SBR MVP
          • 01-23-07
          • 4865

          #39
          Originally posted by PharaohUB
          I'm trying Gemini out and will report back. Looks legit. They accept New York customers, so they have their bitlicense and most places don't.
          Customer Service quick to respond during verification process. Once I sent the wire it's just crickets. I'm sure I'll get it, but not a good start. Hoping I don't have to wait the entire weekend now.
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          • Optional
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            • 06-10-10
            • 61374

            #40
            Originally posted by PharaohUB

            Customer Service quick to respond during verification process. Once I sent the wire it's just crickets. I'm sure I'll get it, but not a good start. Hoping I don't have to wait the entire weekend now.
            If it doesn't hit Saturday morning I doubt you will see it before Monday now.
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            • cletus3333
              SBR Hustler
              • 03-15-13
              • 66

              #41
              i would advise people to stay clear of Paxful. I was trading on there last year and made some decent money. There are unfortunately a lot of scammers. i had transactions reversed and lost money. Avoid Venmo & Paypal like the plague. They will steal your money and send you an email closing your account. All anyone has to do is dispute a transaction after it has been completed on Paxful, and your account will get frozen and closed by Paypal/Venmo.

              i have been trading Bitcoins for a few years. Ive used Circle and Coinbase as well as Liberty X. its getting more difficult with the IRS investigating coinbase and with new providers also asking for intrusive verification. id rather use coinbase with a rewards credit card and pay the fees than expose anymore personal info than i have to. i also like using LibertyX. Ive found that i can usually negotiate these fees with books like bookmaker, betdsi, and heritage before i make the deposit.
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              • Memento
                SBR MVP
                • 01-28-15
                • 1192

                #42
                Originally posted by PharaohUB
                Customer Service quick to respond during verification process. Once I sent the wire it's just crickets. I'm sure I'll get it, but not a good start. Hoping I don't have to wait the entire weekend now.
                I sent mine in on a Saturday morning and it was credited on Monday....no issues there. The issue I am having is getting ACH verification....been waiting on that for 4 days. I will call them Monday and check the status.
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                • flyingillini
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 41219

                  #43
                  Coinbase does not allow me gi buy bitcoin from Vietnam. Circle worked perfectly but where do I go now? I need to buy bitcoin and also transfer it back into my account via bank account of ATM. Any help would be appreciated
                  המוסד‎
                  המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                  • PharaohUB
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-23-07
                    • 4865

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Memento
                    I sent mine in on a Saturday morning and it was credited on Monday....no issues there. The issue I am having is getting ACH verification....been waiting on that for 4 days. I will call them Monday and check the status.
                    I just don't appreciate the lack of communication. I don't care if it takes ten days. Point is I was getting e-mail responses within 5 minutes during verification process on Thursday. I sent the Wire Thursday afternoon. I sent two messages early Friday asking if they received it and nobody responded the entire day. Once this first one goes through I'll be more comfortable, but this is first time I don't usually wire so I just want some kind of peace of mind its going through but can take a couple days, or something... any kind of response.

                    Can I ask what you had to do to get the first wire fee refunded?
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                    • Memento
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-28-15
                      • 1192

                      #45
                      Originally posted by PharaohUB
                      I just don't appreciate the lack of communication. I don't care if it takes ten days. Point is I was getting e-mail responses within 5 minutes during verification process on Thursday. I sent the Wire Thursday afternoon. I sent two messages early Friday asking if they received it and nobody responded the entire day. Once this first one goes through I'll be more comfortable, but this is first time I don't usually wire so I just want some kind of peace of mind its going through but can take a couple days, or something... any kind of response.

                      Can I ask what you had to do to get the first wire fee refunded?
                      Nothing....$20 is just added to your deposit amount.
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                      • rockmvp1209
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-27-13
                        • 755

                        #46
                        move to the usa
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                        • evo34
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-09-08
                          • 1032

                          #47
                          Pharaoh and Memento: any updates with respect to Gemini? Thx.
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                          • Memento
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-28-15
                            • 1192

                            #48
                            Originally posted by evo34
                            Pharaoh and Memento: any updates with respect to Gemini? Thx.
                            Still pending ACH verification....no one available via phone. Received response via email stating I should be able to use ACH but it is not available for me. Sent another email and no response...pretty poor customer service.
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                            • evo34
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-09-08
                              • 1032

                              #49
                              That sucks. Hopefully it's a holiday staffing issue. I checked out indepedentreserve.com. It doens't look all that promising, since they charge 0.5% commission on all trades and the bid/ask spread is usually around 2%. Paying 1.5% on average seems excessive.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61374

                                #50
                                Originally posted by evo34
                                That sucks. Hopefully it's a holiday staffing issue. I checked out indepedentreserve.com. It doens't look all that promising, since they charge 0.5% commission on all trades and the bid/ask spread is usually around 2%. Paying 1.5% on average seems excessive.
                                I've been able to buy and sell at better than the Bitstamp rate each time I've used them. Net after trading commission. I have just asked for a little better than price I see and been filled within 20 or 30 mins each time.
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                                • evo34
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-09-08
                                  • 1032

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  I've been able to buy and sell at better than the Bitstamp rate each time I've used them. Net after trading commission. I have just asked for a little better than price I see and been filled within 20 or 30 mins each time.
                                  Well, did the market move into your offer, or did you keep adjusting it to stay on top of the order book?
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61374

                                    #52
                                    I just looked at the Bitstamp price and added/deducted about 1% and just left it until filled each time.

                                    Actually, it may not have been better than Bitstamp at the moment the order was filled come to think. But I get the price I want I guess. Better than I would have got at somewhere like Coinbase if I had ordered at same moment I put offer up.
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                                    • Memento
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-28-15
                                      • 1192

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Memento
                                      Still pending ACH verification....no one available via phone. Received response via email stating I should be able to use ACH but it is not available for me. Sent another email and no response...pretty poor customer service.
                                      Finally approved for ACH transfers with Gemini. Maybe it was just a Holiday delay....took a while to get things set up. Will update with ACH time transfers over the next few weeks.
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                                      • deadstare
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-02-11
                                        • 661

                                        #54
                                        So im trying out gemini and deposited via "instant" ACH on tuesday and i still can't move my BTC because it hasn't cleared their bank. Christ, this is ridiculous. Thank god BTC has been going up or i'd lose money.
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                                        • Memento
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-28-15
                                          • 1192

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by deadstare
                                          So im trying out gemini and deposited via "instant" ACH on tuesday and i still can't move my BTC because it hasn't cleared their bank. Christ, this is ridiculous. Thank god BTC has been going up or i'd lose money.
                                          You can always just convert it back to usd for pretty cheap if you are worried about BTC fluctuations (at $2.50 per $1000....not too bad a fee). If it has been in BTC since Tuesday....you did just fine!
                                          Yep...realized quickly that "instant" simply allows you to covert deposited usd to btc or vice versa for trading purposes. They still make you wait 4-5 days for it to clear before you can move it out of Gemini. So....not a quick or "instant" way to buy BTC. The limits I have are $500/day, $15,000/month. Conversion fees are 25 bps, so pretty cheap to covert and free to transfer money to and from bank account. They seem to buy/sell a few dollars higher than bitstamp....so they look like a cheap place to get your money out. However, the cheapest cash out method is the bitpay card via purchasing $ orders at WalMart for .70 cents.
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                                          • 5918mike
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-16-14
                                            • 1885

                                            #56
                                            What's the next best after coinbase, they took my bank account instant buy from $1000 to $0. I've had nothing but issues trying to make instant purchases with those guys.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61374

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by 5918mike
                                              What's the next best after coinbase, they took my bank account instant buy from $1000 to $0. I've had nothing but issues trying to make instant purchases with those guys.
                                              Gemini.com is an alternative but not instant. You need to fund it with what you need ahead of time so it can clear.

                                              Localbitcoins.com, Paxful.com and Wallofcoins.com are other possibilities.

                                              You can get $1050 here instantly and easily http://buy.bitcoin.com/ but it will cost you around 9%
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                                              • rockmvp1209
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-27-13
                                                • 755

                                                #58
                                                Anyone use buy.bitcoin? It looks easy all you do is put an address and click buy 1000 is a 75 fee I see . Anyone use it. Reviews ? It just goes straight to the address after you buy it?
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                                                • ParlayKing1986
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 06-02-12
                                                  • 278

                                                  #59
                                                  Just tried buy.bitcoin.com ...easy as it looks...in my wallet after 5 minutes of purchase...if you dont mind the fee..this might be the best circle alternative.
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                                                  • rockmvp1209
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-27-13
                                                    • 755

                                                    #60
                                                    I'm going to try the buy.butcoin I don't mind a 75 dollar fee for a grand of Bitcoin .
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                                                    • UBNVS
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-21-14
                                                      • 285

                                                      #61
                                                      Anyone still cashing out using circle? I have a payout coming tomorrow and wondering if it's still good to cash out there.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61374

                                                        #62
                                                        Here's another place that supports ACH https://www.snapcard.io/

                                                        Know nothing about them as yet though.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61374

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by UBNVS
                                                          Anyone still cashing out using circle? I have a payout coming tomorrow and wondering if it's still good to cash out there.
                                                          Best to ask them directly to make sure.

                                                          People were sending to old wallet addresses when they first announced the changes but have not heard of anyone doing that in recently.
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                                                          • Memento
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-28-15
                                                            • 1192

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            Here's another place that supports ACH https://www.snapcard.io/

                                                            Know nothing about them as yet though.
                                                            Similar to gemini...3-4 day wait on deposits and charge 50 bps fee....twice the rate of gemini to convert to btc. Take 2-3 days to send money back to account.
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                                                            • ThaWoj
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 6760

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by rockmvp1209
                                                              I'm going to try the buy.butcoin I don't mind a 75 dollar fee for a grand of Bitcoin .
                                                              Did it work for you? When I go to the site it says "territory not supported" saying that I can't buy coins. I live in the usa unless it's a state by state thing.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61374

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by ThaWoj

                                                                Did it work for you? When I go to the site it says "territory not supported" saying that I can't buy coins. I live in the usa unless it's a state by state thing.
                                                                If you are in California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee or Texas.

                                                                https://www.coinmama.com/ is another card place. You lose about 10% in exchange premium with a card there.
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                                                                • ThaWoj
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 6760

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I'm in Louisiana. Are those the permitted states or banned states? Might be my phone settings as well. When I go to the sbr store on it my only options are sports book cash which obv I can't buy
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                                                                  • Memento
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-28-15
                                                                    • 1192

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                                    I'm in Louisiana. Are those the permitted states or banned states? Might be my phone settings as well. When I go to the sbr store on it my only options are sports book cash which obv I can't buy
                                                                    Using a vpn?
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                                                                    • Optional
                                                                      Administrator
                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 61374

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                                      I'm in Louisiana. Are those the permitted states or banned states? Might be my phone settings as well. When I go to the sbr store on it my only options are sports book cash which obv I can't buy
                                                                      They are the only permitted states.

                                                                      Shoot an email to help@sportsbookreview.com and let them know about your geo-location issue.
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                                                                      • Sabear
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 08-22-10
                                                                        • 65

                                                                        #70
                                                                        [QUOTE=Optional;26680954]Best to ask them directly to make sure.

                                                                        People were sending to old wallet addresses when they first announced the changes but have not heard of anyone doing that in recently
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