Circle account closed - bitcoin

[Ted Sheckler]

Had a payout on Sunday night and yesterday morning.

Everything went through quickly. Money is in bank account. Got an email this morning saying Circle account closed regarding section 17&18. Always used Blockchain as the middle man.

Any other options other than Coinbase? Don't mind coinbase, but still only have limit of 60 for instant purchase there, while circle was 3,000.

Thanks.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Had a payout on Sunday night and yesterday morning.

Everything went through quickly. Money is in bank account. Got an email this morning saying Circle account closed regarding section 17&18. Always used Blockchain as the middle man.

Any other options other than Coinbase? Don't mind coinbase, but still only have limit of 60 for instant purchase there, while circle was 3,000.

Thanks.

They are getting pretty good at this. How many transfers did you do?

Probably need to start transferring to another wallet in between if you are going to be using it a lot.

Maybe give Airbitz a try.

[Ted Sheckler]

A few a week normally. Buying bitcoin or sending it in and selling it immediately. Never kept a balance there, would always instantly move it.

Airbitz allow you to buy bitcoin? Still send to blockchain as middle man?

[jtoler]

If you understood how btc works youd understand how theyre catching you, understand everything about it first, I did that for about 2 months before I ever used it, inside an out, mining, security, whatever you name it.

[Optional]

Had a payout on Sunday night and yesterday morning.

Everything went through quickly. Money is in bank account. Got an email this morning saying Circle account closed regarding section 17&18. Always used Blockchain as the middle man.

Any other options other than Coinbase? Don't mind coinbase, but still only have limit of 60 for instant purchase there, while circle was 3,000.

Thanks.

If you dont mind using wires, I'd try independentreserve.com

[temple2010]

limit your transactions- i do 1 a week max. always to blockchain.

[nymfan99]

If you understood how btc works youd understand how theyre catching you,

understand everything about it first, I did that for about 2 months before I ever used it, inside an out, mining, security, whatever you name it.

can you clarify? i think tgere are a bunch of us who dont want to be restricted....

[unluckysob]

limit your transactions- i do 1 a week max. always to blockchain.

i do one a month.

[Ted Sheckler]

If you understood how btc works youd understand how theyre catching you, understand everything about it first, I did that for about 2 months before I ever used it, inside an out, mining, security, whatever you name it.

Thanks for the recommendations.

[Ted Sheckler]

limit your transactions- i do 1 a week max. always to blockchain.

I see. I would just always take the money out of Nitrogen, maybe I should just stick with bookmaker, since I trust them more with the money and don't feel worrisome keeping a couple thousand there.

[Buffalo Nickle]

That was most likely your problem. It is wise to do as few transactions as possible. They have to bust a certain number of people to stay legit and they are going to get the obvious people.

[marquette]

I have read all of this, but I am still wondering. If I can't use Coinbase or Circle, who do I use instead? I have not found anybody. Thanks!

[jonal]

Is it a good idea to buy gift cards wth btc So all my transactions aren't transfers to/from books? I use blockchain as an intermediary

[BaseballChaser]

I use coinbase not circle, but I'd imagine they both have similar ways of detecting things. I've only used bitcoin once. Went to blockchain then to coinbase and then to my bank account. Is there other things I should be doing?

Should I have more than just a coinbase and blockchain account?

And if your account was to get blocked/closed would you lose your funds or still be able to pull the money out?

[JamesBrown]

I use coinbase not circle, but I'd imagine they both have similar ways of detecting things. I've only used bitcoin once. Went to blockchain then to coinbase and then to my bank account. Is there other things I should be doing?

Should I have more than just a coinbase and blockchain account?

And if your account was to get blocked/closed would you lose your funds or still be able to pull the money out?

If they close your account, you will still get all of your money back before they shut it down.

[Buffalo Nickle]

You don't have to worry that much about getting shut down. Open accounts with Circle and Coinbase both. If one gets shut down, you have the other. They both cost the same so use one for a transfer and then the other. That will reduce how much you are using either. Always use an intermediary wallet.

If you lose both, you can use Airbitz on your phone. They have not shut anyone down so far as I know. If you lose that, you can use the international ones like Kraken if you want to bad enough.

If you lose them all, you probably should give up gambling.

[PharaohUB]

Guys you are not safe by simply sending to blockchain. They can still see the address the coins went to after that and if it's a gambling site then you are f'ed. They are not too stupid to look one level deep on a transaction. You need to break the chain.

My suggestion is use paxful as the middle man. Deposit your funds into the paxful wallet from circle, wait for the required confirmations and then withdraw to your blockchain. At this point you have broken the chain. The last thing circle is going to do is question you sending the funds into Paxful. What else is bitcoin for if you can't trade it on an exchange? When you withdraw it's not coming from the same place your coins were sent to, so they can't trace what you do with it after that.

You can use LBC, I only suggest paxful, because LBC ran off with my funds at one point because I wouldn't send them my identity informaiton. Paxful there is just less BS.

[Optional]

Guys you are not safe by simply sending to blockchain. They can still see the address the coins went to after that and if it's a gambling site then you are f'ed. They are not too stupid to look one level deep on a transaction. You need to break the chain.

My suggestion is use paxful as the middle man. Deposit your funds into the paxful wallet from circle, wait for the required confirmations and then withdraw to your blockchain. At this point you have broken the chain. The last thing circle is going to do is question you sending the funds into Paxful. What else is bitcoin for if you can't trade it on an exchange? When you withdraw it's not coming from the same place your coins were sent to, so they can't trace what you do with it after that.

You can use LBC, I only suggest paxful, because LBC ran off with my funds at one point because I wouldn't send them my identity informaiton. Paxful there is just less BS.

This is terrible advice PharoahUB.

You cannot use EITHER Paxful or Localbitcoins at all if using Circle.

You will eventually be canned.

I imagine most people who come on here saying "I always used bockchain as the middle man so am confused" have never read the terms of service...

You can use your Circle account to buy bitcoin for sale on other registered platforms and exchanges or to sell bitcoin acquired from other registered platforms and exchanges. You cannot use your Circle account to (i) buy bitcoin for sale to individuals through peer-to-peer brokerage services or unregistered exchanges (such as LocalBitcoins, Craigslist, eBay or similar websites), (ii) sell bitcoin that you have acquired directly from individuals through peer-to-peer brokerage services or unregistered exchanges (such as LocalBitcoins, Craigslist, eBay or similar websites), or (iii) buy or sell bitcoin on behalf of anyone else. Such activities might be in violation of applicable law - so we can’t allow it.

[cincy]

can someone help me understand what information is exchanged in bitcoin transaction using blockchain. does the receiver of the bitcoins just know the bitcoin address those came from or can they trace that backwards to previous bitcoin transactions to see how the funds were received before they came to them? any suggestions to help prevent tracing the funds backwards? if i send from my blockchain wallet, what bitcoin address does it show the receiver of the funds. should i just create a new bitcoin address every time before I send funds from my blockchain?

[Optional]

can someone help me understand what information is exchanged in bitcoin transaction using blockchain. does the receiver of the bitcoins just know the bitcoin address those came from or can they trace that backwards to previous bitcoin transactions to see how the funds were received before they came to them? any suggestions to help prevent tracing the funds backwards? if i send from my blockchain wallet, what bitcoin address does it show the receiver of the funds. should i just create a new bitcoin address every time before I send funds from my blockchain?

Reciever just knows the wallet ID the funds came from.

With that info they can see how much money was in that wallet, what other wallet IDs have sent/receive coins from it and what the remaining balance is.

As all transfers are public it is possible to trace a lot of transactions. But this is only useful if specific wallet IDs you have interacted with have been linked to a real person or company.


Trading your coins on a trading exchange can help break the chain that can be followed as they enter a large pool and if you don't get any of your own coins back then it's effectively clean funds from there.

Some people offer a thing called bitcoin mixers. Which basically just lets people give coins to them which are transferred around among users until they are thoroughly mixed up and hopefully no traceable from there.

But if you are asking a question like "should I change my wallet address each time I send", then you don't know enough to keep yourself untraceable yet anyway (yes you should btw) even if you do use a btc mixer you will likely do something else to get yourself IDed anyway.

Basically, dont worry about it too much. Do what you understand you need to. Change wallet IDs and dont send direct to a sportsbook from Circle/Coinbase and minimize the number of cash in/out transactions and you will probably be fine like most people.

[LT Profits]

Any other options other than Coinbase? Don't mind coinbase, but still only have limit of 60 for instant purchase there, while circle was 3,000.

Thanks.

https://wallofcoins.com/en/

[cincy]

thanks Optional. I would hate to lose my circle account and they already closed it temporarily a while back until I answered some questions. It is true I certainly don't know enough to keep myself untraceable so any feedback from others who know about bitcoins are useful. If I send bitcoins from my wallet in the blockchain account then does the receiver see my primary blockchain address?

Can someone suggest a mixer I can use to help clean my bitcoins? Do I just transfer the bitcoins to the mixer and then get the bitcoins back a few hours later after paying a fee?

Is there a way to send bitcoins to someone that go thru a mixer before reaching that person so they can't trace the bitcoins?

[Optional]

thanks Optional. I would hate to lose my circle account and they already closed it temporarily a while back until I answered some questions. It is true I certainly don't know enough to keep myself untraceable so any feedback from others who know about bitcoins are useful. If I send bitcoins from my wallet in the blockchain account then does the receiver see my primary blockchain address?

Can someone suggest a mixer I can use to help clean my bitcoins? Do I just transfer the bitcoins to the mixer and then get the bitcoins back a few hours later after paying a fee?

Is there a way to send bitcoins to someone that go thru a mixer before reaching that person so they can't trace the bitcoins?

The receiver sees only the details attached to the ID you send with. So not your entire wallet account if you use a new ID each send.

Hopefully Raiders happens along and can help with the mixer advice.

I've never used one and feel a bit wary personally so cant really recommend one.

[jkishi01]

I used to always send my Bitcoins from Circle to 5dimes and I've never had a problem. Sometimes I would send 2-4 times in one day too. I've been receiving payouts once a week for 9 months too. Bitcoin is the best invention ever for online bettors like me. It's made my life so much easier. The best part is that there are no fees to withdraw now and my limit is $50k instead of $3k per week that credit card users have to deal with.

[jonal]

Here is a great video showing how to use a bitcoin ATM - if you can figure out a regular ATM, a bitcoin ATM is within your abilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XMSEL0yg5I

For finding one, the best resource I have found is coinatmradar.com

I just used the info above which is located in one of the how to use bitcoin threads for selling btc at an atm and getting cash. I got $1000 out of my Blockchain acct and was charged about $60.

1st part was entering my phone number then getting a text, then it I had to scan my id, then it asked how much i wanted, the limit at the atm was $1000.

Then had to scan from my bitcoin wallet to the atm.

Then i had to wait for a confirmation text, which took about an hour to get. I believe now that im in their system I can sell the btc before i get there so its ready before i get there.

Though the $60 fee sucks, not a bad option if you need cash right away from your bitcoin wallet.

[portman]

Can you elaborate a bit on this? I am new to bitcoin and i cannot understand how circle is able to spot where the transfers are coming from and accordingly close accounts...

If you understood how btc works youd understand how theyre catching you, understand everything about it first, I did that for about 2 months before I ever used it, inside an out, mining, security, whatever you name it.

[Optional]

Can you elaborate a bit on this? I am new to bitcoin and i cannot understand how circle is able to spot where the transfers are coming from and accordingly close accounts...

I doubt anyone can explain the exact way they do it. But it would rely on an ever increasing database of information, interrogations of all addresses they run across to try and profile accounts by activity and real world investigation to ID wallet owners.

Remember that even if a book uses a new wallet ID for every transaction at some point they are going to want to consolidate those transactions to either pay winners or cash out themselves. It's not a simple thing to stay anon without a lot of knowledge about how the system works now and what new methods boffins come up with to analyze the blockchain.

[PharaohUB]

This is terrible advice PharoahUB.

You cannot use EITHER Paxful or Localbitcoins at all if using Circle.

You will eventually be canned.

I imagine most people who come on here saying "I always used bockchain as the middle man so am confused" have never read the terms of service...

Optional maybe so. But even worse advice to tell people to go through blockchain. At least my post has some relevant substance to it - didnt realize lbc/paxful were allegal - BFD - then find one that is legal to get from circle. The point is to mask them through some other central wallet handling system and break the chain.

You will get shut down if you use blockchain. When your coins go through blockchain its there for the world to see where they go next, and they will get smarter with this. Find a middle man. Some kind of wallet that is legal to send your coins too from Circle, and pass your coins through them. One that when you send your coins in, you can take them back out and they come from a different address. I don't know all of Circle's T&C, but I would imagine somethign has to be legal or what are they selling them for.

[PharaohUB]

And also you can do whatever the F you want with bitcoins once you break the chain. That includes using Paxful of LBC or a gambling website.

[Optional]

Optional maybe so. But even worse advice to tell people to go through blockchain. At least my post has some relevant substance to it - didnt realize lbc/paxful were allegal - BFD - then find one that is legal to get from circle. The point is to mask them through some other central wallet handling system and break the chain.

You will get shut down if you use blockchain. When your coins go through blockchain its there for the world to see where they go next, and they will get smarter with this. Find a middle man. Some kind of wallet that is legal to send your coins too from Circle, and pass your coins through them. One that when you send your coins in, you can take them back out and they come from a different address. I don't know all of Circle's T&C, but I would imagine somethign has to be legal or what are they selling them for.

Why are you trying to give advice on how to avoid problems at Circle if you haven't even read the terms then? At least the few paragraphs about prohibited uses!

Also, it sounds like you are a bit confused about what the blockchain is and what a blockchain.info wallet is. No matter which wallet or exchange you use, every transaction is recorded on the blockchain. Paxful transfers included.

And also you can do whatever the F you want with bitcoins once you break the chain. That includes using Paxful of LBC or a gambling website.

This is true but if you want to use Circle or Coinbase, like this thread is about, people need to avoid Paxful and Localbitcoins unless they really know what they are doing. Which most asking these questions don't. Hence trying to keep it as simple as possible with my suggestions.

[evo34]

Why are you trying to give advice on how to avoid problems at Circle if you haven't even read the terms then? At least the few paragraphs about prohibited uses!

Also, it sounds like you are a bit confused about what the blockchain is and what a blockchain.info wallet is. No matter which wallet or exchange you use, every transaction is recorded on the blockchain. Paxful transfers included.




This is true but if you want to use Circle or Coinbase, like this thread is about, people need to avoid Paxful and Localbitcoins unless they really know what they are doing. Which most asking these questions don't. Hence trying to keep it as simple as possible with my suggestions.

Why not advise people on what does work then?

[Optional]

Why not advise people on what does work then?

I did. I gave the OP the same simple method most posters here have been using with Circle without issue since day one.

There is no need to make it any more complicated than that for people to get started.


I am not going to confuse threads where someone asks basic questions with technical explanations new users won't understand and are just as likely to make them glaze over and say 'this is too hard for me'.

[nymfan99]

Is it possible for a book to trace source of funds? For example, If I withdraw from a book to blockchain and then transfer to another blockchain account and another person deposits into the same book where the original withdrawal came from, could the book somehow trace that?

[LT Profits]

Deposit:

circle/coinbase > EXCHANGE (make at least one trade) > Blockchain > sportsbook

Withdrawal:

sportsbook > Blockchain > EXCHANGE (make at least on trade) > circle/coinbase

You now have your plausible excuse if circle/coinbase asks, you are a trader at the exchange. When I told coinbase that, they RAISED my limits, I am now at 10K buy, 15K sell.

[BaseballChaser]

Deposit:

circle/coinbase > EXCHANGE (make at least one trade) > Blockchain > sportsbook

Withdrawal:

sportsbook > Blockchain > EXCHANGE (make at least on trade) > circle/coinbase

You now have your plausible excuse if circle/coinbase asks, you are a trader at the exchange. When I told coinbase that, they RAISED my limits, I am now at 10K buy, 15K sell.

I've only ever gone:
Sportsbook>blockchain>coinbase

I'm going to sound dumb as I'm a really big bitcoin noob, but what do you do to make a trade?