1vice payout watch

[djefferis]

Who is the RDG? What books are currently affiliated with them?

Currently know mainly for Americasbookie - in the past also bet33 and legendsports (not be confused with Legendz, a completely separate operator).

1Vice was housed under their hosting at its start, then moved away - now moving back.

Some players love them for their generous bonuses and rec book offerings- others despise them for their no non-sense approach to perceived shot takers, bonus abusers's and perceived "sharps" - they've always paid in the past, unless they think you've given them a reason not to (at least to my limited knowledge).

I am sure something will be worked out for current players with large RO's pending - hope it goes smoothly for everyone.

[jr814922]

What exactly does this mean that 1vice is going back to RDG?....is this a good thing for players?, is it almost like a bailout?,

Will 1vice now remain open for years to come?

[Optional]

What exactly does this mean that 1vice is going back to RDG?....is this a good thing for players?, is it almost like a bailout?,

Will 1vice now remain open for years to come?

It sounds like all player funds will be honored. Exactly when and how is still unanswered.

No idea if RDG will want to keep the 1vice brand or merge it with an existing one. We will see there.

So yes it is fairly good news for players. Better than what might have happened at the very least.

[downsouth]

What exactly does this mean that 1vice is going back to RDG?....is this a good thing for players?, is it almost like a bailout?,

Will 1vice now remain open for years to come?

No idea, just posted verbatim what I saw. It could mean a lot of things and unforntunatley time is the only thing that will truly tell. Hope it works out for all of us involved.

[Buffalo Nickle]

It means 1Vice went bust and RDG is going to bail them out. RDG takes a position in ownership of 1Vice and in exchange for bailing them out. 1Vice loses on its promotions and gives up substantial amount of ownership but they still have a chance of being a successful enterprise going forward and can stay in business.

Also means all the great bonuses that they used to offer are out the window and will now offer the standard 100% 10x industry standard bonus.

I'll give credit to them for taking the hit and not taking off with the money. That would have been the easy thing to do. They are going to try to make it work out and give up a lot to pay people off for the mistakes that have been made.

A good thing for 1Vice customers. I assume they will honor existing balances and rollovers. 1Vice has a valuable brand and a good book of customers, especially from an RDG point of view.

[Buffalo Nickle]

It also means RDG has final say on anything that happens at 1Vice. They are now under adult supervision or what passes for it in this business. They don't do anything without the approval of RDG and will follow RDG policies on all issues. It is now up to the 1Vice ownership to do what they are good at which is hustling. They are no longer going to be doing what they are not any good at which is everything else.

[Legions36]

Who would want to play here now? All this time they have been trying to hustle customers for deposits knowing what was going on. Griffen lied to everyone trying to make it look like he was doing good when it was bs the whole time. All I know is one lie after one lie after another lie on top of another. Screw this place and glad I didn't fall for it. He has been trying to butter everyone up the whole season, that whole deal was a scam from when it started cause he knew exactly what he got into, then the extra time during Christmas for payouts another scam lie, then trying to buy more time recently saying he was on vacation another scam lie, then he said to a guy he was mad about his post so he had to wait on getting paid another scam lie,problems with bitcoin payouts which was another lie.
Screw this place, the only reason RDG is probably bailing them out is to save there own ass because 1Vice started with them and they know if 1Vice scams people then whos gonna play there. All you people playing at these low rate places need to wake up already and stop giving them so much credit like they are a good book, I will never give any place like this praise again.
Griffen is a prick and a lier to everyone to try and do this to all those guys, he even tried to butter me up into making deposits when I knew it didn't sound right.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I am sure that RDG was not particularly generous in this deal. They may have majority stake in the biz at this point. We do not know how big the hole was but it was likely pretty big.

For all Griffin's faults, people do love the guy and he is obviously a very charming fellow. I think a lot of people will bet with him out of loyalty and appreciation for what he has given in the past. This guy has proven that he can get customers and that is what RDG is betting on. He's made them money in the past and they probably think he will going forward. They don't have a whole lot to lose. This is what they do. Start people up for a percentage of ownership.

[Optional]

If it works out in the way Griffen suggests it will then the people who took the NBA promo are going to make out like bandits, so the more careful people like you and I really missed out Legions. :\

[aortega521]

It means 1Vice went bust and RDG is going to bail them out. RDG takes a position in ownership of 1Vice and in exchange for bailing them out. 1Vice loses on its promotions and gives up substantial amount of ownership but they still have a chance of being a successful enterprise going forward and can stay in business.

Also means all the great bonuses that they used to offer are out the window and will now offer the standard 100% 10x industry standard bonus.

I'll give credit to them for taking the hit and not taking off with the money. That would have been the easy thing to do. They are going to try to make it work out and give up a lot to pay people off for the mistakes that have been made.

A good thing for 1Vice customers. I assume they will honor existing balances and rollovers. 1Vice has a valuable brand and a good book of customers, especially from an RDG point of view.

Here is the thing. There is absolutely no one can post specifics unless they have talked to Griffin so anything you post is PURE speculation with no merit.

With regards to them being bust that is a definitive no. Football is over and the slow part of the season for any book is coming up. Partnering back up with RDG during this time will help reduce overheard and take this time to learn and get better. RDG right now has better infrastructure and that will help 1Vice

With regards to great bonuses out that window that is also false. They will however proceed with more caution and avoid exposure to the wrong crowds.

I know for a fact that closing was not an option. 1Vice has a valuable business that is triple in size to its closest competitors. Hence partnering up with RDG makes 1Vice even stronger

Just cause you partner with someone doesn't mean you sign your life away. In business, its called best practices. You follow a proven business model and still have say in how things are run.

This situation is probably for the better as it gives 1Vice the ability to do what they do best which is dealing with current clients and growing the client base. Like griffin said mistakes are always made in any business. Its recognizing the mistakes, and how you react after is what defines you.


Instead of posting all these theories like you have insider information, why don't you go straight to the sources, ask RDG or Griffin himself? I challenge you to ask him so when you go posting things you know facts. I've been a client for many years and I NEVER hesitate to ask anything knowing I will get straight answers from Griff and 1vice. That is extremely valuable to me as a client. As far as I know Griff is one of the most accessible and easiest person to get a hold of. Stop speculating and just ask.

Aside from all that nonsense hope everyone has had a good football season!

[Buffalo Nickle]

Sounds familiar.

[Legions36]

If it works out in the way Griffen suggests it will then the people who took the NBA promo are going to make out like bandits, so the more careful people like you and I really missed out Legions. :\

I will not play at this place even if they get bailed out after.
I feel like everything they did this year was to scam people, they even started some new newsletter that they send by email this year to make the scam look good, they let in players who they previously kicked out to scam. How many times they emailed me this season to deposit more than usual to get me in to, thats also what bothers me more.

[aortega521]

I will not play at this place even if they get bailed out after.
I feel like everything they did this year was to scam people, they even started some new newsletter that they send by email this year to make the scam look good, they let in players who they previously kicked out to scam. How many times they emailed me this season to deposit more than usual to get me in to, thats also what bothers me more.

Newsletters are to eliminate all the phone calls that everyone see some to hate from any book. Stop speculating go and ask the man himself.

Guys were brought in for football season where those guys did good in bases and hoops. Football season gave 1vice another crack at those guys.

If you want straight up answers just ask. Chasing your tail will only make you dizzy. Just watching you guys chase your tail makes me dizzy.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Newsletters are to eliminate all the phone calls that everyone see some to hate from any book. Stop speculating go and ask the man himself.

Guys were brought in for football season where those guys did good in bases and hoops. Football season gave 1vice another crack at those guys.

If you want straight up answers just ask. Chasing your tail will only make you dizzy. Just watching you guys chase your tail makes me dizzy.

You are always a little dizzy. Don't worry AOrtega. You will be welcome at 2Vice and Robbie gives out free plays. I am sure you will be announcing the 100% free play offer at 2Vice this football season. But if I were you, I'd start buttering up HRWager.

[Legions36]

Newsletters are to eliminate all the phone calls that everyone see some to hate from any book. Stop speculating go and ask the man himself.

Guys were brought in for football season where those guys did good in bases and hoops. Football season gave 1vice another crack at those guys.

If you want straight up answers just ask. Chasing your tail will only make you dizzy. Just watching you guys chase your tail makes me dizzy.

Aren't u the guy who other posters here spotted out was either only praising 1vice or working for them? Or something like that.
It's obvious I know about newsletters and stuff like that. Im pointing out 1Vice was trying to scam everyone from day one this season and went that extra mile to make it look good by- making a new newsletter, crazy bonus, letting old people play again. It's pretty obvious what they were up to and im pointing out what they must have had in mind.

[aortega521]

People say stuff man but honestly I've been a client for years and I get straight answers. I can understand how many people feel but the only way to know what's up is just ask that's what I did and that's what I'm suggesting others to do. Whether you belive me is up to you man but like I said your questions will turn into more questions by reading this stuff on here.

[MarcusPaige]

If there is not one single no pay complaint, even if some guys had to wait God forbid two weeks or whatever, and America's Bookie is publicly confirming that they are involved now, I see the risk here as minimal. There is no way AB is going to put their ass on the line here after working to build the reputation they have.

[killawookie]

When is it considered no pay? When you are quoted 30 days and are still waiting after day 50? Kinda hard to post details publically because Griffin watches and is scornful to most of the posting done on this site about 1vice.

[Legions36]

These guys almost got stiffed and they are still blind to see what 1Vice was planning. All this season Griffen came up with every trick in the book to do anything possible and every excuse in the book to scam and yet all these guys can't even see that. How can anyone trust anything Griffen says from this point on.
I uses to also play at this place a few years ago so I don't know why people think they have some kind of advantage over others because they keep bringing up "they play here".
All I know is you guys are lucky to get a place to bail them out because I still have yet to see any money from similar offers or places like this who folded with my money. Only reason this happened is to protect Americas Bookie and RNG brand, cause if 1Vice stiffed then everyone would blame them since thats where originally they came from.

[Buffalo Nickle]

These guys almost got stiffed and they are still blind to see what 1Vice was planning. All this season Griffen came up with every trick in the book to do anything possible and every excuse in the book to scam and yet all these guys can't even see that. How can anyone trust anything Griffen says from this point on.
I uses to also play at this place a few years ago so I don't know why people think they have some kind of advantage over others because they keep bringing up "they play here".
All I know is you guys are lucky to get a place to bail them out because I still have yet to see any money from similar offers or places like this who folded with my money. Only reason this happened is to protect Americas Bookie and RNG brand, cause if 1Vice stiffed then everyone would blame them since thats where originally they came from.

Those are fair points. But RDG doesn't care if 1Vice goes under. That is not under their brand. Griffin had a relationship there and they gave him a break. But not much of one. They got a good book of customers at what probably will be a bargain price.

[aortega521]

Legions and Buffalo, have either of you gone straight to the source yet. I'm still challenging you to go ask Griff and get straight up answers to specific questions. Why you guys love to speculate is beyond me. Again my challenge is ask Griffing himself. Then when you find out your answers you can post them here.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Griff is on "vacation" until Robbie takes over. He is not admitting to this faliure. I guarantee you he does not own more than 25% of 2Vice right now.

[Jnas]

Legions and Buffalo, have either of you gone straight to the source yet. I'm still challenging you to go ask Griff and get straight up answers to specific questions. Why you guys love to speculate is beyond me. Again my challenge is ask Griffing himself. Then when you find out your answers you can post them here.

LOL Ortega you are such a schill it is embarrassing.

Yea let's ask griffin he will tell us exactly how bad his balance sheet is and what he gave RDG to help him out.

[milwaukee mike]

LOL Ortega you are such a schill it is embarrassing.

Yea let's ask griffin he will tell us exactly how bad his balance sheet is and what he gave RDG to help him out.

exactly... ortega why don't you also ask griffin what the deals were when synbet and ezstreet closed, sure he will give straight up answers lol

[aortega521]

^^^^^ This coming from a moron who has an avatar of a woman with her mouth taped and ankles restrained.

[aortega521]

exactly... ortega why don't you also ask griffin what the deals were when synbet and ezstreet closed, sure he will give straight up answers lol

Also before you go posting stuff do a little research and rub the two brain cells you have together and find out that Griffin was the one that bailed out synbet guys.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/1682548-rx-forum-reneged-synbet-bail-out-deal-1vice-com.html

[Smoke]

^^^^^ This coming from a moron who has an avatar of a woman with her mouth taped and ankles restrained.

Wow

[Buffalo Nickle]

Robbie did not go thirdsies with two party boys. This is his book now. He is not getting in any arguments about how 2Vice works with his money and rep on the line. Griffin somehow only came out half owner when he split with HRWager guy and went in with co-owner/customer service rep Tommy. No way he got better with a shark like Robbie going hat in hand. Robbie took whatever he wanted and left Griffin with the leavings, if that.

[Legions36]

Also before you go posting stuff do a little research and rub the two brain cells you have together and find out that Griffin was the one that bailed out synbet guys.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...1vice-com.html

Haha your so smart because I remember when Easystreet bailed out some people, then they ended up stiffing with everyone's money. Griffen was thinking of stiffing everyone this year and your the only one left who doesn't see that.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Also before you go posting stuff do a little research and rub the two brain cells you have together and find out that Griffin was the one that bailed out synbet guys.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...1vice-com.html

Ha, ha. I just read that thread and you have Robbie talking about bailing out a bust book!!! That is awesome.

[milwaukee mike]

Also before you go posting stuff do a little research and rub the two brain cells you have together and find out that Griffin was the one that bailed out synbet guys.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...1vice-com.html

maybe reread my post before getting so defensive. i was at therx when that stuff went down.

that woman is avril lavigne, it was my schtick that i was a crazy stalker/fanboy so i ran with it for entertainment purposes... which the forums used to be about, having fun and gambling, not shilling for people that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Seeing elsewhere that 1Vice may come out of this still with majority ownership. If so, Robbie you are not very smart.

[Courtesywipe]

Received this this text message today. It appears they are still taking deposits. Perhaps they are not going under and simply booting players who were winners. I'm obviously a loser hence the solicitation I received today. Either way I wish everyone involved good luck.

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Hey boss its Griffin at http://www.1vice.ag/
I have the best bonus offer for you this week to get in on the SuperBowl. Just email me ok
griffin 1vice.ag

[MarcusPaige]

I'm guessing the book was profitable except for the NBA promo and just needs some help riding out that stupidity. Probably will be fine if Denver covers. If not, oh shit.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I talked with RDG. Was told they are "backing' 1Vice. Said money there was good and they would meet payouts until 1Vice is "back on its feet."

Griffin remaining in charge and everything staying the same except for RDG acting as a "Big Brother." No changes other than RDG processing payouts.

Proceed accordingly.