18th Hole Copies ALL of Pinnacles Lines

[Kelly_F]

What you fail to comprehend is I could care less if they fail tomorrow. I've made 20k in 2.5 months using them, & will continue to do so. My two payout requests were paid same day, no problems. Not concerned much about payouts. I try to lose at this book & win at my other outs, & have been quite successful. So IF & when this party's over, I'll simply crash the next party after 18th hole & BetIslands.

This is a great strategy for any arber. Make sure you bust all your balances back into Pinnacle.

Don't worry if you start winning at the dodgy book - just keep doubling your bet size and that will take care of that.

Until your luck runs out that is.........

[pjesnik24]

Like I said, I wish Bobby ends up with 100k at 18th to see jow good they really are

I withdrew 26000€ from pinnacle two days ago. It took about two hours

[bobbywaves]

Until your luck runs out that is.........

If my luck runs out, why are you assuming I wouldn't be paid? What are you basing this assumption on?

[jjgold]

Like I said, I wish Bobby ends up with 100k at 18th to see jow good they really are

I withdrew 26000€ from pinnacle two days ago. It took about two hours

Game over

[bobbywaves]

Like I said, I wish Bobby ends up with 100k at 18th to see jow good they really are

I withdrew 26000€ from pinnacle two days ago. It took about two hours

Unfortunately I can't use Pinnacle, as I reside in USA. With 18th, I get the same openers & quite often better closing #'s than Pinny. My balance would never get close to 100k. If I get on a win streak & my balance reaches 25k, my 10x roll would easily be met with a payout request. "IF" I get stiffed for 25k, I'll still be up. When I don't get stiffed, I'll be up mucho dinero.

[bettingstation]

Right, so let's summarise:

1) Two books on same IP (snakeeyes and 18thhole) that have existed for 6 months at most, but claim to have been around since 2004. No-one has any evidence of this, except a "review" site that was created at the same time as snakeeyes.....

2) .......which turns out to be owned and hosted by the same guy that hosts snakeeyes11.info

3) This same review site instantly ranks 18th hole as one of its best books, although the link actually leads to snakeeyes.

4) In their "forums", snakeeyes is the most active thread.

5) No other review site has anything.

6) Lots of energetic "promotion" in forums by the same people.

7) ...... one of whom cites said fake review site as proof.

8) A business model only three books have ever managed to work (Pinnacle, SBO, IBC). Everyone else who has tried has gone bust.

9) On top of this, they do large referral bonuses.

10) On top of this, they're serving the American market, with all the extra money transfer expenses and risks that entails (none of the three books above do so).

11) Don't have their own oddsmakers, copy pinnacle, but can't keep up near game time. Books that have tried this before have died quickly.



Hrrrrrm.

maybe this is the answer of this thread...

[Redondo]

amzing what bonus money with a 10X times can do for someone, bobby has brought up GT bets stiffing him for 3K countless times yet has this carefree attitude about it possibly happening at 18th hole at some due being up a significant amount of cash.

[Sarunas]

amzing what bonus money with a 10X times can do for someone, bobby has brought up GT bets stiffing him for 3K countless times yet has this carefree attitude about it possibly happening at 18th hole at some due being up a significant amount of cash.

is truth. not make the sense

also! whys profesional gambler have the clients?

maths not make the correct here

[bobbywaves]

First one to correctly figure out how much I won from Monday night football arb below, will win a pt prize:

[Sarunas]

please! the informations. what mans have make in to the professional gambler from the US while make play from the US. and have make clients?


the maths not make accuracy. is the professional the make play in the internationals and have make play the pinnacle worth the thousands of the dollars each month, then whys make stay in US?


who make explains this? please the truths!

[Spacefrog]

please! the informations. what mans have make in to the professional gambler from the US while make play from the US. and have make clients?


the maths not make accuracy. is the professional the make play in the internationals and have make play the pinnacle worth the thousands of the dollars each month, then whys make stay in US?


who make explains this? please the truths!

And i thought my English was bad...

[OnkelChris]

And i thought my English was bad...

. Acutally could someone explain me the content of sarunas post?

[InsiderHer]

please! the informations. what mans have make in to the professional gambler from the US while make play from the US. and have make clients?


the maths not make accuracy. is the professional the make play in the internationals and have make play the pinnacle worth the thousands of the dollars each month, then whys make stay in US?


who make explains this? please the truths!

Yes, your assumptions regarding US "professional gamblers" is correct. Grinding out 55% is difficult enough, but the lack of legit outs, and e-wallets makes it nearly impossible. Europe has a distinct advantage over US gamblers especially in terms of arbs needing to move money from one establishment to another. Getting paid is paramount and Bobby's jive about getting stiffed while up on the book is utter stupidity. Of course Bobby being a professional gambler (lol) knows this and must be messing with you all. The truths is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck it most likely is a betislands in the making.

[bostonboss]

how do you get an invite?

[bobbywaves]

how do you get an invite?

I don't know, they sent me an invite via e-mail. Otherwise, you need referral.

[jammyjim73]

Pinnacle reserve the right to cancel any wager made on an obviously "bad" line or wager madeafter an event has started

[bobbywaves]

I can't bet at Pinnacle & all books reserve that right. I bet off lines not bad lines, there's a difference. I never past post, most games are taken off the board when game starts.

[jammyjim73]

Can u tell me the difference then , I'm wanting to make some real cash instead if the 1000 a month thanks

[InsiderHer]

Can u tell me the difference then , I'm wanting to make some real cash instead if the 1000 a month thanks

An off line is a bad line numb nuts. Some shops are slow to move, one of them was Betislands before they went belly up. May be working a real job that pays more than 1000 a month and requires a lot less work?

[bobbywaves]

I disagree....For example.....A bad line would be an MLB total of 18, when it obviously should have been 8. An off line for example, would be the St Lois Cardinals +121 tonight at 18th hole, versus the +109 currently offered at Bookmaker. These off lines obviously create arbs. I have bet games 30 cents off market & my wager never cancelled. Because it's not a bad line, it's an opinionated off line. The book is taking a strong stance on the game, daring you to take the value side.

[pjesnik24]

I disagree....For example.....A bad line would be an MLB total of 18, when it obviously should have been 8. An off line for example, would be the St Lois Cardinals +121 tonight at 18th hole, versus the +109 currently offered at Bookmaker. These off lines obviously create arbs. I have bet games 30 cents off market & my wager never cancelled. Because it's not a bad line, it's an opinionated off line. The book is taking a strong stance on the game, daring you to take the value side.

funny...
so, it I was 18th hole owner and I had such strong opinion about a game I would actually bet 50k at pinnacle or bookmaker on the opposite side, I would not offer such stupid bets

[InsiderHer]

I disagree....For example.....A bad line would be an MLB total of 18, when it obviously should have been 8. An off line for example, would be the St Lois Cardinals +121 tonight at 18th hole, versus the +109 currently offered at Bookmaker. These off lines obviously create arbs. I have bet games 30 cents off market & my wager never cancelled. Because it's not a bad line, it's an opinionated off line. The book is taking a strong stance on the game, daring you to take the value side.

I'll stick to a book that gives me great lines and value on those lines, and most importantly pays me. 5Dimes +113 come back -123 on your game. 99.99% of modern day sportsbooks do NOT take stances on games and for good reason.

[bobbywaves]

Your prerogative.... However I'll stick to the books that offer me Red Sox +126 & Cardinals -120, for a risk free arb paying me $242.

[playz]

I got my weekly 950 MP payout

[bobbywaves]

I got my weekly 950 MP payout

Of course you did. But according to InsiderHer & other uneducated fools in this thread, 18th doesn't pay.

[downsouth]

Im mildly intrigued. How do I go about getting an invite/referral or whatever for this shop. Ive used plenty of crap shoots before so whats one more.

And for whats it worth, at some point it probably will go bust just have to work on getting your timing down and minimizing exposure.

[bobbywaves]

I received an invite via e-mail, think they got my info from 5 Dimes somehow. If you didn't receive an e-mail from them, contact me on Covers & I'll get you in.

Whether this book goes bust or not in the future is debatable, the point is to make your $ while it's here. Just like the crushing of BetIslands, which made the $633 that BI eventually stole from me irrelevant. Risk/reward.

Tonight's arb:

[InsiderHer]

I got my weekly 950 MP payout

HAHAHA, on the 18th weekly payment plan? Get real.

[InsiderHer]

I received an invite via e-mail, think they got my info from 5 Dimes somehow. If you didn't receive an e-mail from them, contact me on Covers & I'll get you in.

Whether this book goes bust or not in the future is debatable, the point is to make your $ while it's here. Just like the crushing of BetIslands, which made the $633 that BI eventually stole from me irrelevant. Risk/reward.

Tonight's arb: [ATTACH]61348[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]61350[/ATTACH]

lololololololololololololololololol....

[InsiderHer]

Of course you did. But according to InsiderHer & other uneducated fools in this thread, 18th doesn't pay.

Yeah, of course he did just like your arb win last night... Good luck with your garbage book bobbywaves...FYI the Eagles suck balls!

[downsouth]

Im gonna try it out small, for whats it worth probably in for a mess but aware of that going in. Will let you guys know good or bad what I get.

[pjesnik24]

Im gonna try it out small, for whats it worth probably in for a mess but aware of that going in. Will let you guys know good or bad what I get.

after all of the things you read in this thread you are still going to deposit? WOW

[bobbywaves]

after all of the things you read in this thread you are still going to deposit? WOW

Of course....Downsouth is an intelligent gentlemen unlike you, who comprehends the concept of risk/reward.

[downsouth]

after all of the things you read in this thread you are still going to deposit? WOW

Ill try it, keep it small and hope im not the one holding the buck when it goes under. Risk/Reward analysis in play and while I'm not confident it ends well long run hopefully short term success can achieved.

Will keep you guys updated.

[bobbywaves]

With the 100% cash reloads, free plays, arbs, & referrals, I profited 25k in just 11 weeks, taking full advantage of what they offer. Anyone whose intelligent & not a pussy, can easily do the same. I back up what I say by posting several arbs, unlike the many clueless naysayers in this thread who speak with no knowledge.