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  • pokerwhiz90
    SBR MVP
    • 10-02-10
    • 2618

    #106
    Yea I'm calling them out betdsi offers better bonuses too
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    • wilson34
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-19-13
      • 166

      #107
      You're a moron for not accepting the $50 freeplay. They tried to make it right with you, and you declined. Of course you got kicked out. You're a bittvch. Ain't nobody got time for dat!
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      • wilson34
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-19-13
        • 166

        #108
        Why not take the $50 freeplay? Because it was $2 less than your tennis bets? You disgust me.
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        • tto827
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-01-12
          • 9078

          #109
          Originally posted by wilson34
          Why not take the $50 freeplay? Because it was $2 less than your tennis bets? You disgust me.
          Because a $50 FP is nowhere near $50 cash.

          He would have to win a bet with implied odds of less than 50% just to get his own money back..... In what world is that fair?

          They way this ended is the way it should have started. Or they could have admitted mistake and just returned his stake, either is acceptable.
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          • teaz2win
            SBR Hustler
            • 02-12-13
            • 98

            #110
            Originally posted by tto827
            Because a $50 FP is nowhere near $50 cash.

            He would have to win a bet with implied odds of less than 50% just to get his own money back..... In what world is that fair?

            They way this ended is the way it should have started. Or they could have admitted mistake and just returned his stake, either is acceptable.

            so he came on the forums to complain about 50 dollars and is now taking the moral high road and not accepting the free play but walking away with NOTHING... i call bullshit. He knew what he was doing.
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            • tto827
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-01-12
              • 9078

              #111
              Originally posted by teaz2win
              so he came on the forums to complain about 50 dollars and is now taking the moral high road and not accepting the free play but walking away with NOTHING... i call bullshit. He knew what he was doing.
              He is walking away with his stake returned..........
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              • pokerwhiz90
                SBR MVP
                • 10-02-10
                • 2618

                #112
                I'm a happy camper they know that I would redeposit so they've been milking me but lately I've been on a run
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                • pokerwhiz90
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-02-10
                  • 2618

                  #113
                  Originally posted by wilson34
                  You're a moron for not accepting the $50 freeplay. They tried to make it right with you, and you declined. Of course you got kicked out. You're a bittvch. Ain't nobody got time for dat!
                  Your an idiot, after they screw me into a lose lose situation they want to give me a free play which would mean I would have to win at +105 odds just to get my cash back
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                  • tevari
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-02-07
                    • 4959

                    #114
                    This is laughable. I'm logged into heritage specifically to view the tennis board each and every morning and when I saw Kavcic up 3-1 and the game still on the board with a minute left, I thought - I bet some d-bag is going to try to take a shot here, and what do you know, Kavcic loses 5 straight games and a player cries theft. Knew it.
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                    • pokerwhiz90
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-02-10
                      • 2618

                      #115
                      Originally posted by tevari
                      This is laughable. I'm logged into heritage specifically to view the tennis board each and every morning and when I saw Kavcic up 3-1 and the game still on the board with a minute left, I thought - I bet some d-bag is going to try to take a shot here, and what do you know, Kavcic loses 5 straight games and a player cries theft. Knew it.
                      - whatever guys... you guys already know they played both sides of the fence.... and i didn't even cry theft because i was at an advantage when i complained

                      tevari, you don't even bother reading the forum so you should just stop or learn to read
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                      • cloverfield
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-24-10
                        • 862

                        #116
                        Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                        I'm a happy camper they know that I would redeposit so they've been milking me but lately I've been on a run
                        once again shows bad judgement. you're on a run and you make a stink over $52 in plays when the evidence does not show in your favor.
                        you complained to Heritage CS at the exact moment your player got broken. now you lost your account at a great book over this very bad situation. I could be wrong but I think 99.4% of the wagering population knows the status of the game before they place a wager on it.

                        You either tried to take a shot or got caught up in a huge conspiracy. You should have accepted the olive branch Heritage extended because either way you knew it looked very very very very bad in your direction. Hoping for a 200-500 freeplay was out of line.
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                        • pokerwhiz90
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-02-10
                          • 2618

                          #117
                          Originally posted by cloverfield
                          once again shows bad judgement. you're on a run and you make a stink over $52 in plays when the evidence does not show in your favor.
                          you complained to Heritage CS at the exact moment your player got broken. now you lost your account at a great book over this very bad situation. I could be wrong but I think 99.4% of the wagering population knows the status of the game before they place a wager on it.

                          You either tried to take a shot or got caught up in a huge conspiracy. You should have accepted the olive branch Heritage extended because either way you knew it looked very very very very bad in your direction. Hoping for a 200-500 freeplay was out of line.
                          I was not hoping for a 200-500 freeplay.... that was just a comment earlier about stories I heard, honestly I just wanted my initial wager back and wanted to continue business. I just wanted them to admit that they made a mistake, and I also wanted to to clearly say that in the future if there are any bets made with incorrect times, that they would be voided - because what frustrated me was them flipflopping to whatever side was advantageous to them

                          I have some pending parlays which should hit, as long as OKC and the Pacers win their series, also they issued a payout which i'll probably receive tomorrow

                          They still have top notch service, it's just unexcusable that they would go back on their word

                          They are a great book, but I'm not sure if anyone can hold them accountable. They are like the Tiger Woods of the sportsbook world.
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                          • alalha
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 08-28-10
                            • 86

                            #118
                            I've in the past have complained about heritage not being what it used to be but at the end of the day, I think they are the best offshore book that we have right now as far as cs be your money being safe. Enough said.
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                            • Brebos
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-24-13
                              • 1209

                              #119
                              You're a waste of account space, I wish heritage would accept new accounts from the netherlands
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                              • wilson34
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 03-19-13
                                • 166

                                #120
                                OP is a pathetic cheater. Disgusting. Hope they deny his payout since he's a documented cheater.
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                                • wilson34
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 03-19-13
                                  • 166

                                  #121
                                  Crying over $52 and turning down a $50 freeplay. Absolutely pathetic. And you're expecting a payout from them? LOL
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                                  • evo34
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-09-08
                                    • 1032

                                    #122
                                    So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

                                    That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.
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                                    • Brebos
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-24-13
                                      • 1209

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by evo34
                                      So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

                                      That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.
                                      Kinda feel bad for the guy now, we heckled his assPokerwiz you're a good kid, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Don't go to BetDSI and try to pull this shit again though, they'll ban your ass quicker than you can say "hallelujah"
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                                      • pokerwhiz90
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-02-10
                                        • 2618

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Brebos
                                        Kinda feel bad for the guy now, we heckled his assPokerwiz you're a good kid, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Don't go to BetDSI and try to pull this shit again though, they'll ban your ass quicker than you can say "hallelujah"
                                        thanks man - yeah, im obviously no pro but im not a complete idiot when it comes to sportsbetting nor am i a slouch

                                        things were just unfortunate, and obviously im not betting a few grand on some games like a lot of you

                                        - i really wish i never bet that line like i say again, i knew it was trouble to begin with and that money was good as gone which is why i wanted to get out even before the wager was graded

                                        since i'm kicked out of heritage now, i really don't have much to fear so i'm going to be posting everything up with the time stamps - because seriously they need to get their act fixed

                                        like tto was saying earlier, people like me are good business for heritage haha, and through this thread i think there was much more damage done in showing their inconsistency than anything i could have really done

                                        warning - don't bet on lines that are open when the game has started, if you do, just expect that bet to either be voided if you win or lost if you lose - that's just how the sportsbook industry is

                                        i'm looking into depositing a good amount so if any sportsbooks are reading this - please woo me with some offers or free plays :P
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                                        • BrianLaverty
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-07
                                          • 2183

                                          #125
                                          OP knew exactly what he was doing.

                                          Its painfully obvious he took a shot at Heritage.

                                          And Heritage did what they should when players take shots at them... they took a shot back.
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                                          • tevari
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-02-07
                                            • 4959

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                            - whatever guys... you guys already know they played both sides of the fence.... and i didn't even cry theft because i was at an advantage when i complained

                                            tevari, you don't even bother reading the forum so you should just stop or learn to read
                                            i've been here much longer than you have. who are you? ask around, i think im a fairly knowledgeable & respected poster on the tennis boards and elsewhere. i know what you tried to do, you know what you tried to do, so we'll just call you a small time chump & leave it at that.
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                                            • pokerwhiz90
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-02-10
                                              • 2618

                                              #127
                                              alright i give up - im going to ask the mods to close up this thread

                                              final words:
                                              - guys i didn't take a shot, but its understandable to see that, i thought i provided ample proof but it seems some heritage clowns aren't giving it up either

                                              i still think heritage is a good book, but they will do what is +ev for them always
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                                              • BrianLaverty
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-07
                                                • 2183

                                                #128
                                                Heritage management is probably the most player-friendly management of all offshore books. And even they see what you tried to do. I 100% do not blame them... you deserve it for taking a shot.
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                                                • Trident
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-07-09
                                                  • 2362

                                                  #129
                                                  Glad to see Heritage do the right thing and show you the door.





                                                  Good luck finding a better book than Heritage that accepts US players.
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                                                  • cloverfield
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-24-10
                                                    • 862

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                                    - please woo me with some offers or free plays :P
                                                    I'm seeing a pretty consistent theme with the OP in this thread. Anyone else?
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                                                    • BrianLaverty
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-02-07
                                                      • 2183

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by cloverfield
                                                      I'm seeing a pretty consistent theme with the OP in this thread. Anyone else?
                                                      What? That he's a shot taker and cheat?

                                                      Not only did Heritage do the right thing by kicking him out, SBR should ban him too for trying pull a scam to them.
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                                                      • teaz2win
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 02-12-13
                                                        • 98

                                                        #132
                                                        I hope one thing is clear from this thread. If you are looking to strong arm a position with this forum you had better damn well think hard about what you are doing. If you are right SBR forum poster's will champion your cause... if you are wrong ....AWWWW HELL NAW... they will grill you harder than any law enforcement official ever could. Cheaters and Scammers be warned
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                                                        • Brebos
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-24-13
                                                          • 1209

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by teaz2win
                                                          I hope one thing is clear from this thread. If you are looking to strong arm a position with this forum you had better damn well think hard about what you are doing. If you are right SBR forum poster's will champion your cause... if you are wrong ....AWWWW HELL NAW... they will grill you harder than any law enforcement official ever could. Cheaters and Scammers be warned
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                                                          • BigDaddy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-01-06
                                                            • 8378

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by evo34
                                                            So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

                                                            That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.
                                                            well said

                                                            everyone misses that part
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                                                            • noyb
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-13-05
                                                              • 971

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by evo34
                                                              So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

                                                              That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.
                                                              exactly. this thread is retarded.

                                                              i've been on sbr since, i don't know, 2006 and this entire thread really shows how fast things have gone downhill..
                                                              what the poster did or didn't do is completely irrelevant as well as the exact score in whatever part of the tennismatch; the old SBR wouldn't have even considered these circumstances; the book left out a line late and those bets should be voided. heritage's: "yeah, you know, sometimes if the match has just begun, we don't void".. WTF!?! they're implying they pretty much decide on whatever they feel like, that's ridiculously unprofessional, it's either a past-post or it isn't. and this obviously was.

                                                              if heritage doesn't like the guy, then boot him after they pay back his stake, nobody will object. but any suggestion that not returning his stake (or a lousy freeplay as some sort of a pathetic compromise) is somehow OK is completely ridiculous. the end-outcome: guy booted -> money back, is exactly the right one. pretty sad that apparently 75% of this forum only cares about whether some random guy used a bit of pocket-change to take a shot, while all you should really caring about are the fast detoriating standards of even the leading US-facing sportsbooks.
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                                                              • robmpink
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-09-07
                                                                • 13205

                                                                #136
                                                                I just read the first post and can tell most likely the person he bet won the first game, he made the bet then the player lost the first set and he is trying to get the $$ back saying it already started and should be voided.

                                                                I will start to read the rest. If I'm wrong I apologize and you could cuse me out. No one listens to me anyway.
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                                                                • dynamite140
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-05-08
                                                                  • 4958

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Nothing wrong with what heritage did here.
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                                                                  • raydog
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-07-07
                                                                    • 6984

                                                                    #138
                                                                    "even after the game started there was only 1 or 2 games played which was considered acceptable to still to able to receive wagers on it."

                                                                    this should be deleted... i bet every asshole with $1 is going to attempt to pound players 2-0 in the first , from now on...
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                                                                    • cockblocker
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-26-09
                                                                      • 1268

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                                                      where should i bet at guys - i need tennis lines, and flexibility in buying points, live lines, and fast cheap payout
                                                                      You screwed yourself for being an idiot.
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                                                                      • daringly
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 114

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Issue #1: May a Sportsbook leave a line up after the match has begun?
                                                                        Answer: Yes. Books have been doing this for years.

                                                                        Issue #2: Must a Sportsbook void a wager that is slightly past-posted?
                                                                        Answer: No, they are not required to. Many sportsbooks have left odds up after a long event starts, especially if the book believes the odds have not materially changed.

                                                                        Issue#3: May a Sportsbook void a wager that is slightly past-posted?
                                                                        Answer: Yes, if they did not intend to leave the market up when the wager was bet. Only the book can say what they intended, so they have a pretty wide latitude of when to void a slightly past-posted wager, as long as they are consistent.

                                                                        You should draw two things from this dispute:
                                                                        A. Heritage has done nothing wrong here; and
                                                                        B. If you past-post a book, you are giving them a legal free-roll against you.
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