5dimes A+ ?!

[sorinnn]

I have a 5dimes account and betting there from time to time mostly on UFC events.
Not that much money, about 100-200 per bet.
Lately I wasn't able to place more than 20 on some of the lines and even a silly limit of 5$ on certain props.
How can they be A+ just like pinnacle?
I didn't arbitrage there, I didn't bet often and I'm not even sure I am up overall, and if I am it's by less than 500$...

[darkhat]

Are you just doing UFC and props?

If you are a winning player doing mostly props and totals etc (you know what i mean) you are going to be limited at most books

in the big scheme of things 5dimes is a top out for us in the US, hence their rating

[sorinnn]

yes, every ufc event betting less than 1000 in the Reduced Odds section of Fighting.
On average there are probably 2 ufc events per month, so I am betting less than 2000 per month and only up a few hundreds, I'm not sure how long I've been limited for, I'll email them just out of curiosity and ask for a reason.
I'm not mad at them or smth but I'm a bit upset with SBR for giving them an A+. I simply can't take them seriously anymore when I look at a rating.

[sorinnn]

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If you are a winning player doing mostly props and totals etc (you know what i mean) you are going to be limited at most books
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I understand bookies wanting to limit arbers(well even there they shouldn't get rated A+, at most A).
But to limit a low volume possible winning player to amounts like 5 and 20$...and be rated A+...

[davidchong]

share your picks

[harvesters]

I have a 5dimes account and betting there from time to time mostly on UFC events.
Not that much money, about 100-200 per bet.
Lately I wasn't able to place more than 20 on some of the lines and even a silly limit of 5$ on certain props.
How can they be A+ just like pinnacle?
I didn't arbitrage there, I didn't bet often and I'm not even sure I am up overall, and if I am it's by less than 500$...

Did the same thing with me bro. I made a prop bet on the NCAA tournament and my account was suspended. I was told I had to go into live chat and speak to tony (may have been Toni not sure if they were male or female and it had to be live chat for some reason). Anyway they start going on about notes on my account and you've finally landed on the bosses desk and accused me of arbing and said "we put you were we want to put you." They then said are you going to stop or do I need to limit u or something like that. I hadn't a clue what she was talking about so I had to say I don't understand and I was limited very harshly. I've since pulled almost everything out of there. I've been limited at other books and think on certain bets there I was limited and I completely understand why books limit players. I don't understand why someone from a book with the current lay of the land speaks to any player like this. Furthermore if tony/Toni is a decision maker and this is how they deal with things, the us gov will eat the for lunch very shortly IMO

[NobodyUKnow]

You get what u get at 5Dimes.....horrific customer service and a FU customer service model because they do biz with US citizens and know they can get away with the kind of crap they subject customers to. You basically have a couple choices: a) do business elsewhere or b) suck it up and understand that 5D will always be the same way because they accept money from US citizens and feel like that entitles them to not give a damn about anything else. I won't even go into the how pissant Tony is a real clown.

If gambling were actually legal in the US, 5Dimes would be one of the first offshore books to go out of business and it would be rather quickly. They exist solely because of gambling restrictions in the US and that's how they make their money.

[TheMoneyShot]

Are you just being limited in "reduced" section or overall?

[v1y]

I'm up about 28 grand on 5dimes betting MMA and they haven't limited me.

5dimes is A++

[mighty maron]

As long as tony doesnt keep his assets in reach of the DOJ...then 5dimes is A+ until shown otherwise for american bettors

[harvesters]

Are you just being limited in "reduced" section or overall?

Overall. I can still bet $100 on straight lines which isn't bad but I just thought with that attitude and location I should just play elsewhere. I'm not American so my options are a little better than most of their players.

[harvesters]

You get what u get at 5Dimes.....horrific customer service and a FU customer service model because they do biz with US citizens and know they can get away with the kind of crap they subject customers to. You basically have a couple choices: a) do business elsewhere or b) suck it up and understand that 5D will always be the same way because they accept money from US citizens and feel like that entitles them to not give a damn about anything else. I won't even go into the how pissant Tony is a real clown.

If gambling were actually legal in the US, 5Dimes would be one of the first offshore books to go out of business and it would be rather quickly. They exist solely because of gambling restrictions in the US and that's how they make their money.

I had never heard of this tony character so I googled tony and 5dimes and read this story about him threatening to send some guys to someone's house if he didn't pay back winnings on what tony felt was a bad line even though the guy confirmed with the betting department that the line was correct, or as the us gov will likely call it someday Exhibit A!!! I get that you're not always going to get good CS at a sportsbook but with everything going on that was just dumb.

[5mike5]

A+.

[Pride]

they have always been a great book and almost every bad time with tony that i have seen was brought on by the idiocy of the one complaining

[teaz2win]

You get what u get at 5Dimes.....horrific customer service and a FU customer service model because they do biz with US citizens and know they can get away with the kind of crap they subject customers to. You basically have a couple choices: a) do business elsewhere or b) suck it up and understand that 5D will always be the same way because they accept money from US citizens and feel like that entitles them to not give a damn about anything else. I won't even go into the how pissant Tony is a real clown.

If gambling were actually legal in the US, 5Dimes would be one of the first offshore books to go out of business and it would be rather quickly. They exist solely because of gambling restrictions in the US and that's how they make their money.

So again with everything you are saying why are they rated A+? You would think if everything you said here was true they would be lower?

[Watergate]

They also limited my prop wagers and stated I needed place more straight wagers in order to lift my props bet amount. Bs

[Cicima6709]

Ya I'm at $5 for props...

[dynamite140]

Its a recreational book but the best recreational book.


Pinny is the best sportsbook out there.

[johnpendred]

Its a recreational book but the best recreational book.


Pinny is the best sportsbook out there.

agreed on best recreational book for 5d
people dont understand the difference
if you win a nice chunk they will limit you there
constant losers (ppl that do not cash out big) love 5d

[mmaed]

I dont arb and I bet with 5 dimes on UFC. They are a good book. I am not buying your story. I have 4k on the line tonight for ufc 159 and I do this on almost every ufc. I am operating a 15k bankroll for the year and I bet soley on UFC and I am up 24 units (48 percent).

Going by the facts you presented I have to call BS.

[mmaed]

Maybe I am missing something here but I am betting UFc like you, I am up and I bet a lot more than you.

[dynamite140]

Most people dont understand the difference because most sbr posters here are losers. Those who win there will tell you that 5dimes isn't that good of an out. You get limited there especially if you bet on small markets. But Tony has to do this b/c it hurts his bottom line and thus it isn't +EV for him to have you as a player.


Its the best out to have if you are a recreationally bettor though.

[johnpendred]

Most people dont understand the difference because most sbr posters here are losers. Those who win there will tell you that 5dimes isn't that good of an out. You get limited there especially if you bet on small markets. But Tony has to do this b/c it hurts his bottom line and thus it isn't +EV for him to have you as a player.


Its the best out to have if you are a recreationally bettor though.

well put.

[5mike5]

im up absolutley huge there and never had 1 single problem....im on a delay for a while now but hasnt really affected me and thats it

props are the main and quickest way to get limited....

just depends i guess

[gmcarroll33]

im up absolutley huge there and never had 1 single problem

props are the main and quickest way to get limited....

just depends i guess

With you being pretty much a self admited nascar bettor, exactly what sort of market do you think you're betting when you bet that sport? I keep getting banned everywhere because of golf matchups/futures action and being told I'm betting to many props for my action to be desired further. I don't see how a books opinion of a winning nascar bettor would be much different

[knowbetter]

You get what u get at 5Dimes.....horrific customer service and a FU customer service model because they do biz with US citizens and know they can get away with the kind of crap they subject customers to. You basically have a couple choices: a) do business elsewhere or b) suck it up and understand that 5D will always be the same way because they accept money from US citizens and feel like that entitles them to not give a damn about anything else. I won't even go into the how pissant Tony is a real clown.

If gambling were actually legal in the US, 5Dimes would be one of the first offshore books to go out of business and it would be rather quickly. They exist solely because of gambling restrictions in the US and that's how they make their money.

I couldn't agree more. 5dimes customer service is terrible and always has been. If you're a US customer, they know they've got you as there just aren't many options for you. I've never been limited (don't bet the props), but I can't think of a time when I've dealt with their customer service that they haven't been rude (and most of their representatives are pretty ignorant). I had a withdrawal for $3k after the Superbowl and they ran me around having me send in a bunch of CC info that I had already done twice for them and were just rude through the process. If I never had to deal with the customer service there, I would give them a high rank. But their shitty service brings them down to a "C" with me. Unfortunately, U.S. customers are probably limited to a "C" right now so shy of going to Vegas or Tahoe (for the West Coast crowd), you're basically stuck. I've seen all sorts of negative comments made about 5dimes on a variety of forums. This one pretty much encapsuled them....

"What the heck happened to this shop, used to be one of the best. In a matter of about 10 minutes or so, I was lied to, hung up on, and treated rudely... and this was giving them my money. Not looking for you to be my buddy, just a little professionalism. Not my fault you choose not to attend college or pursue a career and that your boss is an asshole."

[bodyforlife]

+1 on the post Knowbetter

I'm in the same boat. Been putting up with crap from their customer service department for years. I just don't think there's a viable alternative out there. Someone recommended BetOnLine but I've read horror stories about them (unfortunately after the fact...had my own bad experience with them). I've dealt with everything you've mentioned and then some. It's a pain and one day I hope we legalize online gambling here so I never have to deal with them again.

[5mike5]

With you being pretty much a self admited nascar bettor, exactly what sort of market do you think you're betting when you bet that sport? I keep getting banned everywhere because of golf matchups/futures action and being told I'm betting to many props for my action to be desired further. I don't see how a books opinion of a winning nascar bettor would be much different

not sure why its different either, all i know is it must be...and i know others in the sameboat as me, maybe not winning as much, but a good chunk as well

theres is a big market o nascar, (even though most wouldnt think so) and i would say alot more than golf actually besides the 4-5 huge events per year like majors, but im just speculating of course cause i cant back that up....the 1 thing i can back up, is 5dimes gets the most action on nascar by far of any offshore book...and u can get down as much money as u would ever want to as well...no problem

might be the way i bet on the races, all i really focus is on the winner of the races...and a few H2Hs maybe per race but usually just 1, and never bet "props"... but no big problems yet, and been there around 2 years now

i mess around with football during the season a little bit , but not anywhere close to the money i risk/win on nascar, and might break even on it or lose a few bucks on the football season overall...but besides that i dont bet any other sports really, because im not good at anything else so i dont bother betting it...i just stick w/ what im great at and make money on.. and thats only nascar events

and for me i could care less about CS, and yes they arent good there, but only time i need them is when im depositing/cashing out...but i never take bonuses at books either, so another reason dont need CS being extra nice but also dont blame others and they are right its not good CS by any means..just for my needs thats a non-factor here...but foor toehrs its a major factor so dont blame them not liking the book....its all just for what each individual needs and wants in a book

GL in the future with ur bets pal!

[mighty maron]

Their customer support cost them a 2k deposit. I had to go back to the store to cancel it. Thank goodness I did not give them the numbers for its retreival..nor was I credited it on my account.

I asked for the cashback for my losses in the casino. The idea was to play and lose and then get the ten percent reload bonus.

I ask three different people in live chat and I get four different numbers for the lossback.

I roll my eyes....I email support and get cut and paste replies of their policy. The question on how I can get four different answers in three documented live chat sessions was of course not given nor mentioned.

I tire of offshore...I will go to the windsor casino to lay a few sports wagers and play poker....

no customer service offshore at all anymore

[benandjerry]

not sure why its different either, all i know is it must be...and i know others in the sameboat as me, maybe not winning as much, but a good chunk as well

theres is a big market o nascar, (even though most wouldnt think so) and i would say alot more than golf actually besides the 4-5 huge events per year like majors, but im just speculating of course cause i cant back that up....the 1 thing i can back up, is 5dimes gets the most action on nascar by far of any offshore book...and u can get down as much money as u would ever want to as well...no problem

I'm just speculating as well, but I think golf is arguably a larger market than nascar, and its not even particularly close at all. Also completely speculative, but 5d's nascar lines seems quite a bit more sensitive to action than their golf lines. pinnacle also dropped nascar this season with the reasoning of it being too small of a market.

[mighty maron]

I'm just speculating as well, but I think golf is arguably a larger market than nascar, and its not even particularly close at all. Also completely speculative, but 5d's nascar lines seems quite a bit more sensitive to action than their golf lines. pinnacle also dropped nascar this season with the reasoning of it being too small of a market.

I know little of either sport but I would bet on golf before NASCAR....
but either bet would be -ev for me

[5mike5]

I'm just speculating as well, but I think golf is arguably a larger market than nascar, and its not even particularly close at all. Also completely speculative, but 5d's nascar lines seems quite a bit more sensitive to action than their golf lines. pinnacle also dropped nascar this season with the reasoning of it being too small of a market.

well im not too suprised pinny doesn't offer it anymore, i heard they dropped it....guess i should have said "U.S. serving" books have a bigger nascar market than most would expect....im guessing pinny doesn't offer it anymore cause most non-americans dont have much interest in nascar like people in the states do betting wise...its mostly just big in US....again, that's just my speculation....im guessing they probably offer F1 racing as that's way more popular outside the states