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  • Guissepee
    SBR Rookie
    • 03-30-13
    • 7

    #1
    I Need a Good Online SportsBook For Horses
    What you bet .. win/place/show? WPS and EXACTAS ONLY.
    Do you already have PP's or do you want a site that throws them in free if you make a bet? It would be nice, but I wouldn't mind buying winners choice.(any PPs you suggest other than Winners Choice)
    Where are you located? Wisconsin
    Do you bet several thousand a week or just $2 per play ? No more than 500 per week. Can't spend too much on WPS and exactas.
    Are you interested in Cash back bonus, or better odds? I would like for this sports book to take a very little percent to none of my winnings. I really don't care about rewards f they take as little of my money as possible.
    Do you want to bet to win or to lay ? Win
    What tracks do you want ? Just US, or some international too ? Just Arlington Park, TUP, and Aquedect.
    Do you want a place that gives you video of the races, do you need replays? Not a necessity, but I would appreciate it.


    additonal info: I was thinking BetAmerica, but I really would like to get everyone's two cents so I can decide between Twinspires and BetAmerica(mainly).
  • Hankwins
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-10
    • 2232

    #2
    betamerica pissed me off bigtime! they took my deposit and then said they don't take bets from illinois. i said why the fuk is it in the drop down menu to sign up then. they said becuase we "plan" on offering fantasy betting in the future that i would be allowed to play. It was sickening becuase I made a good size deposit and had to wait a few days to get it credited back to my CC, i think like a week.
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    • Slimpickens
      SBR MVP
      • 10-28-12
      • 2030

      #3
      Sites like Twinspires and BetAmerica are not sportsbooks. They are legal ADW's. Any legal horse site is fine. Some better than other as far as rewards or rebates. Id recomend Offtrackbeting.com. Give the best rebates of any legal shop.
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      • Courtesywipe
        SBR MVP
        • 09-02-11
        • 1623

        #4
        For non-sportbooks horse wagering, BetAmerica and TwinSpires have to be MUSTS!!! Payout is beyond easy. For sportsbook offering horse racing, I would have to go with GTBets (high payout limits, easy interface), 5Dimes ( low/multiple wager opitions, decent payout limits). Stay away from DSI..... TO hard to navigate horse software, been shut out by race time many of times.
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        • Guissepee
          SBR Rookie
          • 03-30-13
          • 7

          #5
          @Hawkins, I saw that post on forums when I searched BetAmerica, and I found out they take bets from Wisconsin. My main concerns are that I think that the website might not give out full payouts. Does the website take any money from your profits, or do they make any ridiculous fees?
          Can anyone tell me anything bad about BetAmerica, otherwise, my choice is clear.
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          • Guissepee
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-30-13
            • 7

            #6
            I like offtrackbetting.com, but they don't carry Arlington Park. And I have another question, are rebates money back? If so, I think I will choose OTB.
            Last edited by Guissepee; 04-01-13, 03:30 PM.
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            • Slimpickens
              SBR MVP
              • 10-28-12
              • 2030

              #7
              Originally posted by Guissepee
              I like offtrackbetting.com, but they don't carry Arlington Park. And I have another question, are rebates money back? If so, I think I will choose OTB.
              Yea, they dont offer fairgrounds or oaklawn either. Yes, the rebates are daily and are cash back. After you bet 300 dollars you get a 100 dollar bonus regardless of your results with the 300 that you wagered.
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              • Slimpickens
                SBR MVP
                • 10-28-12
                • 2030

                #8
                Originally posted by Guissepee
                @Hawkins, I saw that post on forums when I searched BetAmerica, and I found out they take bets from Wisconsin. My main concerns are that I think that the website might not give out full payouts. Does the website take any money from your profits, or do they make any ridiculous fees?
                Can anyone tell me anything bad about BetAmerica, otherwise, my choice is clear.
                Last I checked betamerica didnt offer NYRA tracks. There rebates are no where as good as otb either.
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                • Guissepee
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 03-30-13
                  • 7

                  #9
                  You've covinced me to choose OTB. What is a good horse track I can bet on? Also, I need some good PP's to use. What is your favorite?
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                  • Slimpickens
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-28-12
                    • 2030

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guissepee
                    You've covinced me to choose OTB. What is a good horse track I can bet on? Also, I need some good PP's to use. What is your favorite?
                    I would send you a referal as most horse places have but I guess they dont here, atleast i cant see where they do. I use DRFFormulator PP's. They are more expensive than basic but IMO are well worth it. NYRA tracks are my favorite to pay I follow on a daily basis, so Aqueduct right now.

                    For other tracks that I play I generally use this site which has free brisnet pp's. http://www.trks2day.com/trks2day.html
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-14-12
                      • 36098

                      #11
                      If you like the idea of getting 10% added to all winning wagers and do not mind offshore 5 Dimes is that shop.
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                      • Guissepee
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 03-30-13
                        • 7

                        #12
                        So, Aqueduct during the winter, and Belmont during the summer. They have great track takeouts too! Only 14% on WPS. I guess I'll move from Arlington park to NYRA. I think I'll stick with winners choice. Try it once and you fall in love with it. Thanks everyone for your help.
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                        • Slimpickens
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-28-12
                          • 2030

                          #13
                          Whats winners choice?
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                          • Easy-Rider 66
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-12
                            • 36098

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guissepee
                            So, Aqueduct during the winter, and Belmont during the summer. They have great track takeouts too! Only 14% on WPS. I guess I'll move from Arlington park to NYRA. I think I'll stick with winners choice. Try it once and you fall in love with it. Thanks everyone for your help.
                            And not forget about the July- Sept. Saratoga meet for NYRA.
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                            • Trident
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-07-09
                              • 2362

                              #15
                              Amwager.com

                              They offer every track, great rebates, great betting interface and free video.
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                              • Slimpickens
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-28-12
                                • 2030

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Trident
                                Amwager.com

                                They offer every track, great rebates, great betting interface and free video.
                                Every track? This is there thoroughbred schedule for this coming Thursday.

                                Will Rogers Downs 1:00 PM Thoroughbred
                                Beulah Park 1:15 PM Thoroughbred
                                Turf Paradise 3:00 PM Thoroughbred
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                                • Slimpickens
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-28-12
                                  • 2030

                                  #17
                                  I just stumbled apon watchandwager.com. Anyone ever tried them?
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                                  • Trident
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-07-09
                                    • 2362

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                    Every track? This is there thoroughbred schedule for this coming Thursday.

                                    Will Rogers Downs 1:00 PM Thoroughbred
                                    Beulah Park 1:15 PM Thoroughbred
                                    Turf Paradise 3:00 PM Thoroughbred
                                    Yes every track, they probably haven't loaded all of that days schedule yet. They carry New York, Kentucky, Florida, Illinois, California and rebates on every track.
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                                    • Slimpickens
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-28-12
                                      • 2030

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Trident
                                      Yes every track, they probably haven't loaded all of that days schedule yet. They carry New York, Kentucky, Florida, Illinois, California and rebates on every track.
                                      Ok, I will take your word for it but I guess for today they didnt even list Parx. How are there rebates percentage wise? Do they have a sign up bonus at all?
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                                      • Trident
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-09
                                        • 2362

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                        Ok, I will take your word for it but I guess for today they didnt even list Parx. How are there rebates percentage wise? Do they have a sign up bonus at all?
                                        I know they had Parx today because I uploaded a file with plays today. Rebates are based on volume but I am sure they are better no matter your volume than what you can get at any other ADW, far as I know they don't offer a signup bonus.
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                                        • Guissepee
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 03-30-13
                                          • 7

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                          Whats winners choice?
                                          It's a pp that has trainer angle plays and has speed, pace, and class. I got one for free and now I'm hooked.
                                          Last edited by Guissepee; 04-02-13, 11:27 AM.
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                                          • Slimpickens
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-28-12
                                            • 2030

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Guissepee
                                            It's a pp that has trainer angle plays and has speed, pace, and class. I got one for free and now I'm hooked.
                                            oh, id like to check that out what site is it on? Googled winners choice and didnt see anything about racing.
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                                            • Easy-Rider 66
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-14-12
                                              • 36098

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                              oh, id like to check that out what site is it on? Googled winners choice and didnt see anything about racing.
                                              Check out the Brisnet.com webpage. Believe Winner's Choice is one of their products.
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                                              • Slimpickens
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-28-12
                                                • 2030

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                Check out the Brisnet.com webpage. Believe Winner's Choice is one of their products.
                                                Ok thanks.
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                                                • touchback
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-08-12
                                                  • 1227

                                                  #25
                                                  BetHorizon.com (Horizonsports.ag) offers alot of tracks and you get 7% back every 30 days on winning tickets... not bad...
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                                                  • Slimpickens
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-28-12
                                                    • 2030

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by touchback
                                                    BetHorizon.com (Horizonsports.ag) offers alot of tracks and you get 7% back every 30 days on winning tickets... not bad...
                                                    7% on only winning tickets only? That cant be right. Maybe 7% on however much you lost in a month. Why go with a site that only does rebates every 30 days when you should be getting them everyday?
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                                                    • dark star
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 3900

                                                      #27
                                                      I think Bookmaker is the best.No complaints after playing there for 10 years
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