I made decisions to deposit at BI because of SBRs guidance. SBR has done me wrong and I won't be back.
penetrate you SBR
penetrate you SBR
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You were one of BI's biggest advocates. Can understand your frustration. But who knows what SBR"s culpability is in this fiasco. GL.Comment -
A lot of the people posting now are the ones that thought BI was underrated before, and helped vote them #5 in the last poster's poll, ahead of A+ books even. A lot of sites want to be the first to make a declaration, even if it's just a cheesy copy and paste job of posts with no real insight as they weren't the ones on the ground trying to get answers, just like many networks want to be the first to report a story, but the truth is SBR took action as soon it became clear BetIslands was unable to keep its word with its own player payout time-frames. That's not what people that prefer to cope with a loss by levying blame want to hear, but it's the truth.Comment -
What exactly in Lou's post is a joke firedawg? I hate comparing the two, but the thread regarding the Connecticut shooting. We were all hammering the news agencies for not having 100% verified fact before reporting to the public. From what I've seen, no other site said BI was done and gone any period of time before SBR, they may have stated they were having issues, but the articles hating on SBR are only coming out now. Many SBR pros would have been gone as stating BI issues would have cut off any chance of a turn around for BI, hopefully with all the threads stating that people weren't getting paid you did not continue to deposit there. The only people claiming they were secure were Jon, and SBR stating that BI had told them they were okay, basically BI said they were fine, otherwise there were no positive reviews since probably the beginning of December.Comment -
tto , if Lou is telling the truth he & SBR are the only ones in CR who found-out on Tuesday
BI was in the shitter
BI was a "B" book last MondayComment -
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I guess Pinny would be 3rd but I can't get it (usa)
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Unfortunately, these results are going to be skewed, since I assume SBR is dealing with a predominately American userbase. There is no way possible that 5Dimes is better than pinnacle. And really, BetIslands, Heritage and legends outranking Betfair.
What a joke of a poll this is.
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- 08-23-12 08:23 AM
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Lou, a couple things are very wrong here.
1. To put this on players in any way is wrong. I was one who was very high on BI during their rise. They paid super fast, offered great promos, and had superb CS. I am just like most here, just a regular person who trusted SBR's advice. There is NO WAY for someone like me or anyone else to know what was actually going on.
Which leads me to my next point.
2. To defend SBR in this situation is sickening. Your job as an indistry watchdog is to find out these things that I eluded to about how the book is really run. If this shop was being run on credit without segregated funds (clearly this is the case), its YOUR JOB to find that out. Not ours. Before bringing them on as an affiliate or raising their ratings so fast, these kinds of questions MUST be answered, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE POST IN THE FORUMS. SBR failed miserably in their most simple of rules here, and thus they have no credibility anymore and offer nothing for US based players anymore.Comment -
Just don't log in again and post
John has said before there is no reason to risk anything lower than an A book
It is our own fault
We, including me, also voted them top 5 above other A books evenComment -
Pauly , would you please stop with your bullshitComment -
- 08-24-12 06:56 PM
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the nerve SBR brass has is unbelievable
shame on uComment -
Sammy, do you have know of who was the first to publish that BI was done and when? I'm curious, cause I hear everyone knew, but as far as I've seen, no one knew enough to put their name behind it, hence why SBR didn't screw over a paying advertiser until they were sure. John may be as guilty as Jon, who knows, I just won't make a conclusion until we see all the facts.Comment -
- 08-27-12 06:26 PM
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LOL. What does the guy who lost 20K care that you took action after everything had already turned to shit? SBR could have started taking action today and the results would be the same.
SBR members get mugged in front of a security guard (SBR) and the security guard wants a pat on the back for yelling at the mugger as he runs away. Priceless.Originally posted by Dark HorseComment -
Doesn't even matter too me about Sbr,bet islands, or even youwagers crooked poker room... I'm done offshore period after this..... Bottom line it's all a penetrating scam...Comment -
tto , I do NOT believe SBR_John is as guilty as SSLP/Jon , not even close...
However , SBR_John either knew for 100% surety BI was done before this past Tuesday or he is a deaf/blind dumbass.
You choose which oneComment -
That said this "diasble my account" drama queen bs is getting old. If you want to leave then just stop posting, nobody cares.Originally posted by Dark HorseComment -
Lou,
With all due respect - at minimum, SBR fell asleep at the wheel. When there was the 'transition' several weeks ago - SBR should have been digging to find out what was going on, and if player funds were at risk. Instead, you chose to ignore some of the red flags, and sweep them under the rug as processor and transition issues.
SBR did not do its job. Plain and simple. I'm not looking to blame SBR for the downfall of BetIslands, but I can blame the navigator of the plane when it crashes into the mountain.Comment -
u have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to think they arent knee deep in blameComment -
Everything I've come across states that BI was having issues, the same info you would have gotten from the 39649292 threads here stating that people were not getting paid. I didn't see anyone say BI was going out of business long before SBR did, my tune may definitely change if I find that, but I still have not.Comment -
gambling offshore is an illegal and sketchy situation
its at your own risk with any book
you should always be prepared for a book to close up and run or be seized
same way you shouldn't expect a drug dealer to not rip you off or get arrested on the way to meet youComment
