BetIslands to close with player funds

[Monte]

Don't forget that SBR prolly also paid some of the posters shilling for BI here.
I once thought the RX was super bad, now i rate SBR lower. RX, Raiders, AK and all the other fraudsters at least were well known and nobody would trust them. SBR abused their power to lead everyone to the slaughter, and now turns their head away from people who lost 1.5 millions combined. Cannot believe that Bill once was my hero, 10 years ago or so. What happened to you, man...

[SparJMU]

I spent the last few years criticizing Covers, which is obviously a very crooked site. Now it turns out SBR is on the same level. I was completely fooled.

[Dark Horse]

I spent the last few years criticizing Covers, which is obviously a very crooked site. Now it turns out SBR is on the same level. I was completely fooled.

Me too. It's beyond belief what a f*cking assholes these people are.

[KEdge2k]

I do think that if SBR has information about the actual names of the individuals involved in this theft of player funds, they should make that information public.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[Dark Horse]

This book had a banner last night on the top of the page. I knew SBR had lost credibility, but I never knew it was this bad. A B book and sponsoring book folding from one day to the next, in this day and age. Beyond belief.

[Monte]

This book had a banner last night on the top of the page. I knew SBR had lost credibility, but I never knew it was this bad. A B book and sponsoring book folding from one day to the next, in this day and age. Beyond belief.

Because nobody wanted to see the signs, when they kept touting BOL some people called bullshit, but business continued as usual.
When they started taking the bookies side in questionable cases, the players often been flamed for being frauds.
I among others lived a "miserable" posting life here, coming across as ppl who always bitch about how bad this site now is and so on.
In the end we only tried to warn people, but it was like running head against brick wall. I guess in the end most people deserve their faith here.

[5mike5]

https://www.rouletters.com

good read here guys

[Dark Horse]

Because nobody wanted to see the signs, when they kept touting BOL some people called bullshit, but business continued as usual.
When they started taking the bookies side in questionable cases, the players often been flamed for being frauds.
I among others lived a "miserable" posting life here, coming across as ppl who always bitch about how bad this site now is and so on.
In the end we only tried to warn people, but it was like running head against brick wall. I guess in the end most people deserve their faith here.

I saw the signs last month, but thought I could ride out the storm. A collapse this quick is not normal. And Dozer assured us last week that everything would be back to normal by Monday... You know, you just don't expect everybody to be only covering their own ass. SBR is totally part of this. But they're not going to admit that.

[Covy]

And to think I was to load up on there this weekend...

[Fire in da hole]

My post is in response to plainly answer specific Qs on previous pages. There is nothing we can say that it is going to make guys who lost feel any better except that we continue putting the word out that another book has the opportunity to be a hero here. We very much wish we got a better feel for BI and had a better opinion. Again, in response to previous posts, a book sponsoring the forum is not a guarantee. Everything on the site, including the posters poll and discussions, is information for users to make their own decisions. (We are going to add the date-opened to our book lists.) We understand guys want someone to blame in this situation where everyone else seems to be anonymous.

"Based" on the information available, the book wasn't worse off for future players when #2 picked up the slack. There was a detailed plan for how the new guys would handle the business. The book's menu expanded, six figure players were to be on a payment schedule, and the people now getting the operation bills were promptly paying new pending withdrawals. Those withdrawals wouldn't have gone out otherwise. (We are told they exceeded deposits of which were only a few thousand) As we can see now, later there weren't processing issues but what was leading up to today.

Here is an idea.... SBR wants to make headlines anytime a non-sponsor book has something going on, so why did you fail to mention this to the posters? From what you said above, SBR knew the backers left, yet still allowed the posters to continue depositing knowing without a backer the possibility of going under was a lot greater.

[Fire in da hole]

www.rouletters.com

good read here guys

Same lame comment Bill posted here....good read though

[raiders72001]

Because nobody wanted to see the signs, when they kept touting BOL some people called bullshit, but business continued as usual.
When they started taking the bookies side in questionable cases, the players often been flamed for being frauds.
I among others lived a "miserable" posting life here, coming across as ppl who always bitch about how bad this site now is and so on.
In the end we only tried to warn people, but it was like running head against brick wall. I guess in the end most people deserve their faith here.

You're a Monday morning QB that cries about everything. Sooner or later you have to be right even if you're wrong 95% of the time. Everyone is a shill, everyone is on the SBR payroll, blah blah blah, You have no credibility, no valid case criticizing the post so you go after the poster.

[Dark Horse]

I'm curious to see what John is going to do about this, if anything. He was so adamant, back in the day, to not ever have another Cascade fiasco on his hands, and this one is far worse, because the book was developed almost entirely through SBR. This is the worst thing that could have happened to SBR, because they are a part of it and there's no denying it.

And John apparently even knows Jon and hangs out with him. Holy crap.

[allin1]

I don't know how sbr can get away with this. This can't just be a huge mistake from their part can it? Unbelievable

[Dark Horse]

It's starting to look more and more like SBR knew, and could have warned players, and decided not to.

That right, SBR John? Cheers, right?

[captrobey]

Just got this on DEC 7TH thank God i did not fall for it. They obviously were just trying to get as much cash as they could and then run.

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[allin1]

It's starting to look more and more like SBR knew, and could have warned players, and decided not to.

That right, SBR John? Cheers, right?

How can they upgrade BI because of their financial backer and later that financial backer "seems" to be the reason why everything went down? Unreal

[raiders72001]

How can they upgrade BI because of their financial backer and later that financial backer "seems" to be the reason why everything went down? Unreal

of course they knew and were hoping for a white knight to ride in and save they day. It didn't happen and players got screwed.

[Dark Horse]

Confirmed by Ryan Rossi that Jon stole money from Betislands before he left or was let go.

[raiders72001]

Justin vouched for Jon, SBR vouched for BI (B rating), the owners ran with the money. Justin and SBR now look like crap. SBR looks a lot worse as they continued to let posters deposit without warning.

[raiders72001]

Also, I would guess that SBR is working on a bailout. I'm not sure if it will happen but that is normally the next step.

[Dark Horse]

Jon, I know you're still reading. You have the choice to send me my balance immediately, because it is clear that you have the money, or suffer the consequences. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that's an empty threat or not. If I don't have it in two days that will be your answer.

[ttrace35]

Same lame comment Bill posted here....good read though

They got that quote and a few others, straight from this forum. I promise that Bill didn't go to them for an interview.

[ttrace35]

www.rouletters.com

good read here guys

SBR gets buried in this article

[5mike5]

SBR gets buried in this article

cockroach refrence was classic

[raiders72001]

Jon, I know you're still reading. You have the choice to send me my balance immediately, because it is clear that you have the money, or suffer the consequences. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that's an empty threat or not. If I don't have it in two days that will be your answer.

Why do you say this? He's not paying. You aren't going to do a thing.

[allin1]

Why do you say this? He's not paying. You aren't going to do a thing.

yeah, dark horse let us know how it goes

[raiders72001]

yeah, dark horse let us know how it goes

Bump it in 2 days. Nothing will happen. Jon isn't shaking. People that posts threats on a board never follow through with them.

[Justin7]

Justin vouched for Jon, SBR vouched for BI (B rating), the owners ran with the money. Justin and SBR now look like crap. SBR looks a lot worse as they continued to let posters deposit without warning.

Where did I vouch for him? I said I knew him and his prior affiliation with BP (and that I didn't think he had anything to do with EZ or 7red), and I played at BI. I also said some of their business practices were not sustainable.

[Dark Horse]

Bump it in 2 days. Nothing will happen. Jon isn't shaking. People that posts threats on a board never follow through with them.

I've never not gotten paid. Actionbets paid me very quickly, where others had to wait for years. Jon is not getting away with this. I was out of Cascade because I saw it coming. The only reason I wasn't out of BI is that SBR kept reassuring us. So this is as ugly as it gets.

[raiders72001]

Where did I vouch for him? I said I knew him and his prior affiliation with BP (and that I didn't think he had anything to do with EZ or 7red), and I played at BI. I also said some of their business practices were not sustainable.

I apologize if you didn't vouch for him. I read somewhere that you were good friends with Jon and stated that he wouldn't steal any money. I didn't see the words from you so I may be mistaken.

[CollegePro]

I do think that if SBR has information about the actual names of the individuals involved in this theft of player funds, they should make that information public.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

are you fukking serious?? SBR_John is involved!! they will never release the names

[raiders72001]

I've never not gotten paid. Actionbets paid me very quickly, where others had to wait for years. Jon is not getting away with this. I was out of Cascade because I saw it coming. The only reason I wasn't out of BI is that SBR kept reassuring us. So this is as ugly as it gets.

I think it was weeks, not years. I don't know who you know to jump the line but your threats to Jon mean nothing.

[Dark Horse]

I think it was weeks, not years. I don't know who you know to jump the line but your threats to Jon mean nothing.

It was years. They mean nothing. This is true. Until they mean something.

For stealing, a hand
For running, a foot.

[CollegePro]

I think it was weeks, not years. I don't know who you know to jump the line but your threats to Jon mean nothing.

are you sslp's buddy??