Stay away fro heritagesports...they dont give a shit abot their customers

[motabota]

I went to heritagesports after seeing them with an A review on sbr reviews. Honestly i dont know how they have an A. they say reduced juice....but the juices are not reduced on any games. They offer a terrible 8% reup bonus and their deposit methods are terrible. None the less i deposited over 6k with this sit through ** in a 2 week span. One time i deposited 1050 through western uniion, since their site says max deposit is 1200 through **. After i contacted them to give them the control number they told me max is 1000 although their site says 1200, the reason being is that person cant pick up that much...idk why an exception couldnt be made I told them i left the ** store already, and they told me i gotta call ** to cancel and then go back to the store to redo it. I asked can anything be done for the inconvenience. they told me no...straight up no.... Right then and there i realized their customer service was non existant.
The following week i made another 1000$ deposit to bet on some games i liked...i logged into the casino to play a little till the games got closer to see line changes...i couldnt believe how bad their casino was...i kept playing and playing till i lost the whole deposit. I lost about 18 out of 20hands... so i googled their casino and found out it was reviewed. I called and spoke to gabriel...and his reasoning to me is "were heritagesports not heritagecasino"... and i asked him, does that give u the right to rig the casino? the site is complete bullshit and has to be the worse book i have ever used

[cloverfield]

not sure what happened about the deposits

but you lost money thru an online casino?!?!?!? tell me it isn't so.

[MBENZ]

Motoboto is full of shito and most likely works for betjambo.

[5mike5]

@ OPs that complain about online casinos

if ur dumb enough to blow money in them dont complain about the book...just dont play

breaking news: all online casinos are rigged

[CollegePro]

you blow your money.. so why complain??

[wtt0315]

so you joined just to tell us this? Deposit methods are the same as everywhere, it is what it is

[ChuckWins]

Their CS has turned to shit lately.. They have so many players they don't give a fukk anymore, ala 5 dimes. As far as the online casino, you're on your own with that one

[robmpink]

Whatever the case is they shouldn't have said we aren't heritagecasino.

[clambake]

Gabe from Heritage is a complete tool. He must have naked pictures of someone important to have that job.

[sideloaded]

I went to heritagesports after seeing them with an A review on sbr reviews. Honestly i dont know how they have an A. they say reduced juice....but the juices are not reduced on any games. They offer a terrible 8% reup bonus and their deposit methods are terrible. None the less i deposited over 6k with this sit through ** in a 2 week span. One time i deposited 1050 through western uniion, since their site says max deposit is 1200 through **. After i contacted them to give them the control number they told me max is 1000 although their site says 1200, the reason being is that person cant pick up that much...idk why an exception couldnt be made I told them i left the ** store already, and they told me i gotta call ** to cancel and then go back to the store to redo it. I asked can anything be done for the inconvenience. they told me no...straight up no.... Right then and there i realized their customer service was non existant.
The following week i made another 1000$ deposit to bet on some games i liked...i logged into the casino to play a little till the games got closer to see line changes...i couldnt believe how bad their casino was...i kept playing and playing till i lost the whole deposit. I lost about 18 out of 20hands... so i googled their casino and found out it was reviewed. I called and spoke to gabriel...and his reasoning to me is "were heritagesports not heritagecasino"... and i asked him, does that give u the right to rig the casino? the site is complete bullshit and has to be the worse book i have ever used

you have a gambling problem, seek help

[Monte]

let's forget the casino crap for a while..Heritage feedback isn't too great lately, isn't it?

[tmuller02]

Never have a problem herman or shayla always take care of me scotty taught them well a plus in my eyes answer my emails rite away to

[touchback]

Herman an Shayla are so old school it is not even funny. What do you expect from 2 vets like that. Problem is they cannot help everyone especially with the kind of volume Heritage has right now. Hell, they are not even Costa Rican... the complaints have to do with the influx of new local staff hired to handle the G and Bjam players absorbed the other summer.

[RaleighDevil]

I made a deposit via wire but couldn't figure out why it didn't show in the account. They called me about the problem within minutes and told me to return to the store to resend the money. The clerk just assumed it would be in whatever they use in the Philippines.

Funny aspect of it. I was talking to the manager at the store about what it was for, and he told me that they weren't allowed to do it. This was in front of me and the clerk. He said, "Walk around the store for a few minutes, then come back here and try it again." No problem.

[Deal With It]

I made a deposit via wire but couldn't figure out why it didn't show in the account. They called me about the problem within minutes and told me to return to the store to resend the money. The clerk just assumed it would be in whatever they use in the Philippines.

Funny aspect of it. I was talking to the manager at the store about what it was for, and he told me that they weren't allowed to do it. This was in front of me and the clerk. He said, "Walk around the store for a few minutes, then come back here and try it again." No problem.

Are you really that retarded?

[prop]

Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid.

[touchback]

OH, come on Prop... Rog has an impeccable reputation in the business... and I mean for decades. He would not let anything change that. It is more likely just a matter of growing pains is all... overall they did all right with the mergers and maybe they just are not interested in having bonus whores as customers, is their right... I might add abusive players that curse at clerks and sharp action is also their right to not want as customers. It is a business, nothing more and nothing less and I have never heard of a customer not getting paid, ever... not counting this Corey nonsense, but he has a bit of a history himself...

[touchback]

PS, Prop I like ur posts... nothing personal.

[touchback]

Now, back to some serious stupid shit. Never discuss gaming with any financial institution eeeeevvvvveeeerrrrrr, if ur in the US of course. Good way to instantly be blacklisted and I mean instantly!!!!!!!! Also, online casino are the worst, it is very difficult to verify a true RNG, thats random number generator to any hamburgers.... A fair casino should have a hold percentage under 90% but the sad truth is many dont. Also, if some customers happen to hit some jackpots the percentages will be made up on other customers play, which may explain some bad beats at the card rooms. Then again, I have personally sat in Vegas and been up ten grand and hit a run of 20 to 30 dealer wins, so it happens. Yes, I felt like sh1t for a week after that one...

[cloverfield]

PS, Prop I like ur posts... nothing personal.

Pro Tip: check out his posts in the Shady Cory/Heritage thread. He thinks shady Cory should get the winnings after he posed as his mother and won two Royals (again.. surprise surprise). No surprise here that prop is showing up in other anti-Heritage threads.

[prop]

There's a 1700 post thread on the topic and wasn't much reason to bring it over to this one. This is fair:

"Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid."

is a fair statement without moving that 1700 post discussion to a new thread. But seeing as you're taking a small jab there sure I'll elaborate on that statement.

1) Heritage has many rules in their terms and conditions that can be used to void wins. They can use their correlated bets terms to go back and void however far into the past they want. they can use that address wasn't correct at time of any deposit. They can use a phone number was wrong, and believe there was a 4th concerning term too. but anyways that's just area one.

2) They made several inconsistent statements, and even reneged the deposits were not in question after John came in debating the players deposits should be taken too. They are hanging on John's suggestion now as only thing on table. They forgot their expert twice in slip ups during their pathetic PR attempts, appeared to have forgot their claiming they were donating winnings in dispute to Charity if Cory lost in the arbitration, haven't answered questions about what charity that might be. etc.

3) Cory alleged early on showing copy and pastes that he was being bullied, they can take the hardline too, but basically implying discussing it on forums would reduce chances she was paid.

That's sincere read I don't take cheap shots. I didn't come here saying they're attempting to steal $23K from a player (though that's my current read now) I said:

"Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid."

And that's sincere. They seem very dishonest and probably just have a number of posters fooled.

[Optional]

You have zero credibilty Prop.

You just have an angry agenda to attack Heritage and SBR and are blind to any common sense about it.

Half the attacks you make are based on straight out lies, and the rest seem to be based on assumptions about what Heritage 'might' do, but have never done.

[prop]

angry agenda about Heritage is now true I'll give you that much.

[Heritage Insider]

There's a 1700 post thread on the topic and wasn't much reason to bring it over to this one. This is fair:

"Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid."

is a fair statement without moving that 1700 post discussion to a new thread. But seeing as you're taking a small jab there sure I'll elaborate on that statement.

1) Heritage has many rules in their terms and conditions that can be used to void wins. They can use their correlated bets terms to go back and void however far into the past they want. they can use that address wasn't correct at time of any deposit. They can use a phone number was wrong, and believe there was a 4th concerning term too. but anyways that's just area one.

2) They made several inconsistent statements, and even reneged the deposits were not in question after John came in debating the players deposits should be taken too. They are hanging on John's suggestion now as only thing on table. They forgot their expert twice in slip ups during their pathetic PR attempts, appeared to have forgot their claiming they were donating winnings in dispute to Charity if Cory lost in the arbitration, haven't answered questions about what charity that might be. etc.

3) Cory alleged early on showing copy and pastes that he was being bullied, they can take the hardline too, but basically implying discussing it on forums would reduce chances she was paid.

That's sincere read I don't take cheap shots. I didn't come here saying they're attempting to steal $23K from a player (though that's my current read now) I said:

"Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid."

And that's sincere. They seem very dishonest and probably just have a number of posters fooled.

1. Find one time ever that Heritage has confiscated any money without a mutually agreed upon solution or the client having the right to an independent mediator. You won't be able to.

2. We have not been inconsistent in our position. We never reneged the deposits were not in question because we have never said the deposits were not in question. I believe it was Cory that said we said that. We didn't. This situation is not about the money. It is a matter of principle. That is why the money will be donated to charity if our position is upheld.

3. No one bullied Cory. Before we ever saw Justins decision Cory was posting negative things about us on the forum. We told him we were acting in good faith and if he wanted us to continue so should he. He didn't but we have. We are still researching the claim of a banned player's rights to his winnings. AND.... we are still prepared to go to another arbitration.

[Optional]

angry agenda about Heritage is now true I'll give you that much.

I suggest you ask yourself if it is worth it.

You seem to have invested so much time in this you want to find anything to be angry about now.

Honestly, if you take a breath and a step back you might just see there is no need for the anger, or a crusade. Both sides have some merit in their case, hence the arguing. There is no pattern of the book disputing payouts for big winners. It's just a unique dispute. There is no genuine reason to be heaping condemnation on either side no matter which one you agree with. At the very least not before the parties involved have finished working it out.

[prop]

AND.... we are still prepared to go to another arbitration.

Just for clarity purposes. You'd like the deposits that Heritage freerolled posted back up for a chance to win them too, prior to going to arbitration. You're also only willing to go to a UK arbritrator? There is no panel of three that both Heritage and Cory could agree to where the panel decision in the matter would be final and binding? and again, you are still insistent that for this matter go further she must post back up the deposits that were put in risk 53 of them over 5 months total $20K which had no opportunity to win

That's not true at all Squared Box. We had an idea of what was fair but Cory wanted to go to arbitration and that seemed like a fair thing to do especially when we let him pick the arbitrator.

Thank you Hedge. Justin's decision seemed fair to us too but that's neither here nor there. By the way we have our Cash Back distribution this October 1st and 3 days later on the 4th is our 1st "Get Out of Your Bet at Half" game. Sorry I couldn't resist putting in a plug.

Then after these statements later it was company policy and what you always do. Fair question here: are there multiple people controlling the Heritage Insider forum account? Because your positions stated later are vastly different. There are many inconsistencies a couple involve these statements but are other. I could pick them apart one by one if you would like.

Does Heritage Allege these emails are false?

I just want to state that I just called Heritage, and got hung up on with the GM(Mike). Obviously, Heritage doesnt want to come to an agreement. Therefore, my side has no choice but to move forward. The reason I didnt post last couple of days was due to this:

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Keep it up

Keep it up, you want to take a hard line...we can do that.

Or do they allege there is two sides to every story? I believe in this dispute a hardline has been taken and who knows why. Maybe Justin7 was frustrated and gave the ruling the way he did. But in time it started to appear clear there is much more to the story here. Justin7 is either busy, or unwilling to comment on these questions. But there is two sides of the story - we've heard one side and so many details were missing, and false statements given as well in the comments that followed (though no evidence they were known to be false, or perhaps reasonable explanations available - but more to the point there are two sides).

But you're now selling this we'll go to a second arbitrator as this how honest of a company you are and are so more than fair, but we'll only do so with one again most likely to side with us. And yes, we're an honest company and this is more than fair. I'm curious conversation about the mediator, arbitration (which was it). Some of your comments seem to imply he could selected anyone he wants to arbitrate the dispute. Or was it a player had their funds held hostage and under duress made the best attempt they could to get someone to look into it, taking whatever limited chance they had to get paid. BECAUSE: Cory alleges before he even asked for Justin7 SBRLou called him on the phone yelling to admit it was him and to knock off the act. Could it be possible he asked for Justin7 this point after Your company and Lou attacked him saying were certain of his guilt. You see those are only allegation but it's the more to two sides of the story point. But you're playing the political roll and presenting as he could of chose anyone he wants.

There's evidence to suggest, though it hasn't been authenticated more than one of J7's associates were already convinced of his guilt before starting.

We established reasonable reasons the player said New York. There is not much logical reasons to say I was in New York other than 1) She wasn't prepared and had no knowledge of the account. Or 2) she was caught in a tough no win situation by the gotchya rules your website includes and the questions asked under duress. IP evidence that is alleged to exist, It appears very likely she can confirm she was near the machine many times the games were played. Also releasing it Cory might be able to prove he was no where near the machines.

But once again you're attempting to say how reasonable and honest of a company you are, by offering up a second opinion but only in a jurisdiction where you're likely to win and want the freerolled deposits added back into the equation.

I could go on and on and someday perhaps will, but no I don't feel you guys are acting fair or honest in this dispute.

My simple comment now others are challenging me to defend was:

Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid.

That's a simple comment I will standby. You don't seem very honest to me.

Yes you get a lot of support here, but here's an interesting potential explanation from a thread someone bumped today:

Posted November 24, 2009

I think this average book should win a most shills award though. I have never seen so many players ostensibly excited about so little...

I had nothing against Heritage, never so much as really ever thought about Heritage. Your handling of this dispute is what made me dislike you and your company a lot. Proof and the player be given a reasonable fair mediation is all I ask, or just come out and say we think he did, it we're not sure, but we're going to steal his money and that's that. I can respect that a lot more than the BS PR sells that you're using.

Again I was almost baited into making this post. I believe have now supported the reason I think you guys are a dishonest book, and are probably best avoided.

[prop]

I suggest you ask yourself if it is worth it.

You seem to have invested so much time in this you want to find anything to be angry about now.

Honestly, if you take a breath and a step back you might just see there is no need for the anger, or a crusade. Both sides have some merit in their case, hence the arguing. There is no pattern of the book disputing payouts for big winners. It's just a unique dispute. There is no genuine reason to be heaping condemnation on either side no matter which one you agree with. At the very least not before the parties involved have finished working it out.

Thanks Optional. I will do that for a bit now. Good luck today

[Heritage Insider]

Just for clarity purposes. You'd like the deposits that Heritage freerolled posted back up for a chance to win them too, prior to going to arbitration. You're also only willing to go to a UK arbritrator? There is no panel of three that both Heritage and Cory could agree to where the panel decision in the matter would be final and binding? and again, you are still insistent that for this matter go further she must post back up the deposits that were put in risk 53 of them over 5 months total $20K which had no opportunity to win





Then after these statements later it was company policy and what you always do. Fair question here: are there multiple people controlling the Heritage Insider forum account? Because your positions stated later are vastly different. There are many inconsistencies a couple involve these statements but are other. I could pick them apart one by one if you would like.

Does Heritage Allege these emails are false?



Or do they allege there is two sides to every story? I believe in this dispute a hardline has been taken and who knows why. Maybe Justin7 was frustrated and gave the ruling the way he did. But in time it started to appear clear there is much more to the story here. Justin7 is either busy, or unwilling to comment on these questions. But there is two sides of the story - we've heard one side and so many details were missing, and false statements given as well in the comments that followed (though no evidence they were known to be false, or perhaps reasonable explanations available - but more to the point there are two sides).

But you're now selling this we'll go to a second arbitrator as this how honest of a company you are and are so more than fair, but we'll only do so with one again most likely to side with us. And yes, we're an honest company and this is more than fair. I'm curious conversation about the mediator, arbitration (which was it). Some of your comments seem to imply he could selected anyone he wants to arbitrate the dispute. Or was it a player had their funds held hostage and under duress made the best attempt they could to get someone to look into it, taking whatever limited chance they had to get paid. BECAUSE: Cory alleges before he even asked for Justin7 SBRLou called him on the phone yelling to admit it was him and to knock off the act. Could it be possible he asked for Justin7 this point after Your company and Lou attacked him saying were certain of his guilt. You see those are only allegation but it's the more to two sides of the story point. But you're playing the political roll and presenting as he could of chose anyone he wants.

There's evidence to suggest, though it hasn't been authenticated more than one of J7's associates were already convinced of his guilt before starting.

We established reasonable reasons the player said New York. There is not much logical reasons to say I was in New York other than 1) She wasn't prepared and had no knowledge of the account. Or 2) she was caught in a tough no win situation by the gotchya rules your website includes and the questions asked under duress. IP evidence that is alleged to exist, It appears very likely she can confirm she was near the machine many times the games were played. Also releasing it Cory might be able to prove he was no where near the machines.

But once again you're attempting to say how reasonable and honest of a company you are, by offering up a second opinion but only in a jurisdiction where you're likely to win and want the freerolled deposits added back into the equation.

I could go on and on and someday perhaps will, but no I don't feel you guys are acting fair or honest in this dispute.

My simple comment now others are challenging me to defend was:

Doesn't seem like a very honest book. Probably best to avoid.

That's a simple comment I will standby. You don't seem very honest to me.

Yes you get a lot of support here, but here's an interesting potential explanation from a thread someone bumped today:

Posted November 24, 2009



I had nothing against Heritage, never so much as really ever thought about Heritage. Your handling of this dispute is what made me dislike you and your company a lot. Proof and the player be given a reasonable fair mediation is all I ask, or just come out and say we think he did, it we're not sure, but we're going to steal his money and that's that. I can respect that a lot more than the BS PR sells that you're using.

Again I was almost baited into making this post. I believe have now supported the reason I think you guys are a dishonest book, and are probably best avoided.

We have already been to arbitration - actually twice. Cory's mother did not like Lou's decision and Cory then asked for Justin to rule instead. Other than the fact that we want to verify if a barred player has any rights to winnings we are done. We had a dispute with a player - that player asked for mediation - we agreed - the mediator ruled Cory controlled the account but that we should return the deposits. We did. SBR John is the one who brought up the UK licensed arbitrator. All we said is we are willing to go along with that. However we do think it only fair that the deposits be returned. What if the arbitrator ruled Cory was to forfeit everything. That money should be there.

No multiple users - 1 voice. Our policy is to FREEZE a players account until a mutually agreed upon agreement can be reached or a mediator decides the case. Just because we think Justin's decision is fair doesn't mean it's our policy.

While those emails may be valid they also are taken out of context. We agreed to go to mediation with Cory. After Justin's decision but before he spoke to us he posted negative comments about us. We told him we were willing to continue the mediation process but we wanted him to act in good faith and not try this case in the forums. We had already been to mediation - with a mediator he hand picked - we could have ended it there. However he wanted another mediator and we were open to that but not if he kept trying to discredit our repuation. That's what we meant by hard line.

Prop - the rest of your post is just speculation. Of course there are 2 sides to every story. What do you want us to do here. Cory asked for Justin to arbitrate - we agreed - we did what Justin suggested and returned the deposits - we are seeking further clarification on a barred players status - posters were casting doubt on Justin's decision so SBR John (not us) offered Cory another option.

[prop]

Unless Justin is willing to answer the many inconsistencies in his report that were brought up on the forums and explain his ruling and answer reasonable criticism of it brought up here and elsewhere and whatever questions I think an honest company would throw it out.

Also yes, what if the arbitrator ruled he/her lost his/her deposits? Your book really thinks it is fair to take 53 deposits over 5 months for $20,000 freeroll them and confiscate them? Why are you guys even seeking this?

Also why is John's option the only one? You and the player can't agree on an arbitrator more likely to act fair?

Also will you guys be providing concrete proof should Cory elected not to go to arbitration that you sincerely did give these funds to charity?

I think it's a pretty scummy move on Heritages part but I really sincerely do not like you guys. I think you have a lot of players deceived. If you take this to fair arbitration (where you and Cory's side can agree - and I can be reasonable convinced it will be conducted fair) then this is my offer:

First a disclosure takes place with the game logs. That's all anything else you can keep.
An arbitrator process is agreed on by you and Cory's side (UK is NOT an option):
If I believe the selected arbitration process is fair then:

You escrow the money: Cory's side win it goes to his Mom. If he loses it goes to Charity (you select but Cory's side must approve).
I escrow Cory's side deposit amounts: If Cory's side wins it is returned to me. If it loses it goes to Charity. I decide the charity you can agree on it in advanced.

I stake own money, which goes to charity if deposits are ruled to you, to hold what I think is an unfair book accountable for their actions to make certain you do not keep any of the win. Seriously I think it is hell of a scummy move that you are even seeking those deposits.

Edit: One more term: Need an agreement no person or account period is banned or on post timer, or moderation from the single thread on the case issues while it is pending. Open discussion from supporters of both sides helps each in developing a fair case. The objective is to get it right correct?

[Heritage Insider]

Unless Justin is willing to answer the many inconsistencies in his report that were brought up on the forums and explain his ruling and answer reasonable criticism of it brought up here and elsewhere and whatever questions I think an honest company would throw it out.

Also yes, what if the arbitrator ruled he lost his deposits? Your book really thinks it is fair to take 53 deposits over 5 months for $20,000 freeroll them and confiscate them? Why are you guys even seeking this?

Also why is John's option the only one? You and the player can't agree on an arbitrator more likely to act fair?

Also will you guys be providing concrete proof should Cory elected not to go to arbitration that you sincerely did give these funds to charity?

I think it's a pretty scummy move on Heritages part but I really sincerely do not like you guys. I think you have a lot of players deceived. If you take this to fair arbitration (where you and Cory's side can agree - and I can be reasonable convinced it will be conducted fair) then this is my offer:

First a disclose takes place with the game logs. That's all anything else you can keep.
An arbitrator process is agreed on by you and Cory (UK is NOT an option):
If I believe the arbritator is fair then:

You escrow the money: Cory's side win it goes to his Mom. If he loses it goes to Charity (you select but Cory must approve).
I escrow Cory's deposit amount: If Cory's side wins it is returned to me. If it loses it goes to Charity. I decide the charity you can agree on it in advanced.

I stake own money, which goes to charity to hold what I think is an unfair book accountable for their actions to make certain you do not keep any of the win. Seriously i think it is hell of a scummy move that you are even seeking those deposits.

We have already been to mediation. We are seeking clarification on a barred players rights to winnings. Before we go any further I think we should wait for that.

By the way what is the matter with a UK Licensed Arbitrator?

Finally you said you don't like us much. We don't like being called names and accusations made on our integrity either.

[prop]

We have already been to arbitration - actually twice. Cory's mother did not like Lou's decision and Cory then asked for Justin to rule instead.

Other side alleges this was not an arbitration at all. And is not as you're presenting it we allowed them to pick. You made another post that he should of selected Winner_13. Your PR bullshit is why I dislike you book and feel you guys are dishonest. Again two sides to every story:

Its funny how Heritage is saying my side and them have been through mediation 2x, first w/Lou then Justin, when all my mother did was file a complaint to SBR. Once SBRLou started saying we were guilty before we could even tell him the case we wanted Justin to take over. Why doesnt Heritage say we just went through arbitration 3x, the other time is when my mother asked Heritage to pay her?

[prop]

We don't like being called names and accusations made on our integrity either.

Well if you really don't like it I'll just tell you I don't need SBR forum account to spread my opinion. I have spent 24 days reading and researching. I even spent my own money on it. Because it doesn't seem this player has been given a fair shot. Also again one question before I make the statement that I will repeat:

will you guys be providing concrete proof should Cory elected not to go to arbitration that you sincerely did give these funds to charity?

My statement is if you don't like being called then knock of the PR BS. Either 1) get with the player agree to a fair mediation. 2) get with the player and settle somehow without. 3) show some proof of why no mediation is needed. Do something.

Leave it as is and that statement that you don't like it... You're going to need to get used to it. SBR can ban me now, and you're still going to need to get used to it.

And note: I'm not even asking for you to pay. Show some real proof or give the log. Work out fair agreed to mediation, or somehow settle without. Is multiple options, the one you're taking is the one that will have the most negative consequence.

[Heritage Insider]

Other side alleges this was not an arbitration at all. And is not as you're presenting it we allowed them to pick. You made another post that he should of selected Winner_13. Your PR bullshit is why I dislike you book and feel you guys are dishonest. Again two sides to every story:

You honestly want to argue semantics. Because I use the word arbitration and he used the word mediation that nulifies Justins decision?

Cory called us requesting Justin mediate this case. We did as our client asked and we followed that mediators suggestion.

[Heritage Insider]

Well if you really don't like it I'll just tell you I don't need SBR forum account to spread my opinion. I have spent 24 days reading and researching. I even spent my own money on it. Because it doesn't seem this player has been given a fair shot. Also again one question before I make the statement that I will repeat:

will you guys be providing concrete proof should Cory elected not to go to arbitration that you sincerely did give these funds to charity?

My statement is if you don't like being called then knock of the PR BS. Either 1) get with the player agree to a fair mediation. 2) get with the player and settle somehow without. 3) show some proof of why no mediation is needed. Do something.

Leave it as is and that statement that you don't like it... You're going to need to get used to it. SBR can ban me now, and you're still going to need to get used to it.

And note: I'm not even asking for you to pay. Show some real proof or give the log. Work out fair agreed to mediation, or somehow settle without. Is multiple options, the one you're taking is the one that will have the most negative consequence.

We're going to have to let you have the last word on this one Prop.

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You honestly want to argue semantics. Because I use the word arbitration and he used the word mediation that nulifies Justins decision?

Cory called us requesting Justin mediate this case. We did as our client asked and we followed that mediators suggestion.

Semantics is continuing to say you allowed him to pick the arbitrator.