Anyone using RAS?

Raiderguy101 · 12-14-16, 03:30 PM

I can't get the line RAS gets. It moves in less than 10 seconds. It's tough to get.

BrianBarmore · 12-14-16, 03:49 PM

They are one of the few profitable tour services. You just have to be at your computer to get their line, moves real quick. But if you can, very solid.

badgerdad08 · 12-14-16, 06:23 PM

Same experience here. Lines are very difficult to get, especially for the second half picks.

heleanth · 12-14-16, 06:47 PM

If you are a subscriber and sit waiting for the plays, and have multiple outlets, you have a very slim chance of getting the lines RAS posts. If you get the plays here or on another service plays site, you have no chance. If you grade RAS against the closing line, you won't be ahead.

Krheigle · 12-14-16, 07:38 PM

Same experience. Was never able to get line and closing line is not a winning line

Watergate · 12-14-16, 08:48 PM

Thank you for all of your responses.

kid dienamite · 12-14-16, 08:57 PM

He really screwed over his clients by giving away his picks for free. His totals were moving 9 points from all the money being laid out & it still hasn't fully recovered back to normal. I get why he did it but he wasn't picking up new clients who were looking for free plays.

There are still books out there where you can get the lines but it's local books using the offshore books. You'll still win on the closing line but not if you're a paying customer.

kid dienamite · 12-14-16, 09:10 PM

Also, he's released over 140 plays & we're barely 1 months in, at $18 a pick he's service is gonna be 3-4x more than what it used to be.

Raiderguy101 · 12-14-16, 10:15 PM

I get the picks real time, have multiple windows up ready to go, and still can't get his lines. They move too fast. And if you try and take the number which moved 2-3 points, you're going to get screwed. Just last week he had three picks where he won or pushed, but you got the big fat L.

kid dienamite · 12-14-16, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Raiderguy101

I get the picks real time, have multiple windows up ready to go, and still can't get his lines. They move too fast. And if you try and take the number which moved 2-3 points, you're going to get screwed. Just last week he had three picks where he won or pushed, but you got the big fat L.

Yep, they move instantly. I've had 5 outs & I'm down to 2. Any hesitation & those 2 move. He's had a bunch of basketball games lose on the move this year. He only had 1 all football season & that lost on.a missed extra point.

downsouth · 12-14-16, 10:49 PM

I am able to get most of them at release or within a half or so. Have had one this year that was winner for them loser for me. Sucks but it is what it is.

clockwise1965 · 12-15-16, 12:16 AM

Good service but i rarely get the opening line they offer.

They put a few more picks out then I care for but they are a honest service and fully transparent.

1 of 2 services I use that you can make a consistent profit.

Raiderguy101 · 12-15-16, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by clockwise1965

Good service but i rarely get the opening line they offer.

They put a few more picks out then I care for but they are a honest service and fully transparent.

1 of 2 services I use that you can make a consistent profit.

Yeah the best thing about RAS is their honesty and record keeping. Most tout sites won't ever show a season where they lost.

The down side though is consistently getting their lines.

Raiderguy101 · 12-30-16, 01:36 AM

RAS big plays this year have been absolutely horrible. Probably hitting at a 20% rate. Terrible.

mycool11 · 12-30-16, 03:48 AM

He's just as bad as ferringo. You may as well throw your money out the window.

mycool11 · 12-30-16, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by mycool11

He's just as bad as ferringo. You may as well throw your money out the window.

Save the heart ache

Raiderguy101 · 01-22-17, 12:55 AM

Terrible. He was up 18 units on the year, now only 4. And subscribers are almost all in the negative. No way you can get his numbers consistently. What is surprising to me is how bad he's been off. When he wins, he barely wins. When he loses, they're blowouts that aren't even close.

WOLVTANG · 01-22-17, 10:03 AM

Too many plays. After factoring in juice and cost of service, not to mention line movement, he's a loser. Not even sure why he moves the line so much. His picks are not that good. Period.

clockwise1965 · 01-22-17, 10:54 AM

I use the service as well. It has definitely been a poor year.

Bolty · 01-22-17, 10:54 AM

Wasn't really impressed.Basketball is one the most difficult sports to cap. Last 10 seconds seems like a lifetime not worth it.
That's my 2 cents.

Raiderguy101 · 01-22-17, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by WOLVTANG

Too many plays. After factoring in juice and cost of service, not to mention line movement, he's a loser. Not even sure why he moves the line so much. His picks are not that good. Period.

Exactly. He's firing from the hip. He already has almost 300 plays this year. And it's barely mid January. He had 220 all of last year. That's the problem when you have a tout that charges by the pick amount, and not a yearly subscription. The more plays he puts out, the more money he makes. Ridiculous.

Raiderguy101 · 02-21-17, 11:38 PM

What a service these guys have become. Over $8k in service fees for those results?! Keep in mind he's had 12 pushes so if you don't get his lines, which most don't, you're having a HORRIBLE year.

thomaschau · 02-21-17, 11:46 PM

he bs

Raiderguy101 · 02-26-17, 12:17 AM

And he's now having a losing season. And his clients are probably down around 20-25 units, the ones who can't get his lines. Unbelievably bad. $8500 service and climbing if you purchased by yourself.

clockwise1965 · 02-26-17, 06:10 AM

I have used the service for several years. This year has been disappointing. With the new RAS price structure it will be hard for any of their members to justify the cost. This will be my final year using the service.

Raiderguy101 · 02-27-17, 04:47 AM

March is a new month. Still lots of opportunities left.

That's RAS statement. Yeah more money for you to sell picks and make money. What a scam. At least when his subscription was a yearly cost, you could rest assure he wasn't throwing picks out to make money. Now with the per pick cost, it's just a scam to make more money. What a fraud Edward is.

pdjr777 · 02-27-17, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by clockwise1965

Good service but i rarely get the opening line they offer.

They put a few more picks out then I care for but they are a honest service and fully transparent.

1 of 2 services I use that you can make a consistent profit.

Who is other service that has been able to generate a consistent profit? TIA

clockwise1965 · 02-27-17, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by pdjr777

Who is other service that has been able to generate a consistent profit? TIA

Sportsbettorswin is the other service I was referring too.

pdjr777 · 02-28-17, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by clockwise1965

Sportsbettorswin is the other service I was referring too.

Thanks. They are super expensive but will keep an eye on them.

Mike1029 · 03-01-17, 12:11 PM

I've used RAS in the past. Since Edward from RAS change the pricing to per pick. The value is just not what it once was.

PatrickSarni · 03-01-17, 02:34 PM

RAS is pressing and playing way more games per day this late in the season than in past seasons. I would venture to say he is trying to press hoping he gets hot and can show he can end the season up 10 -15 units. As we all know when you press bad things usually happen.

Raiderguy101 · 03-01-17, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by PatrickSarni

RAS is pressing and playing way more games per day this late in the season than in past seasons. I would venture to say he is trying to press hoping he gets hot and can show he can end the season up 10 -15 units. As we all know when you press bad things usually happen.

Yep. 1-5 today. He's showing the greed side of being a tout. The more picks he sends out, the more he gets paid. I always thought he was a stand up guy but not anymore. He's in it for the money.

Example. Yesterday on a Monday it was a small card. He ended up having 8 picks out!!! But hey, the more picks he sends out, the more he gets paid. Welcome to toutville.