WARNING: DISTURBING VIDEO Family law judge beats daughter

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  • Mr KLC
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    #106
    I used the belt on my children when they were younger. The only time it would come out though is if they tried to come out with a smart remark when I was disciplining them a different way (grounding, taking something away, etc.). I'd give them a swat, let them shake off the pain, and then discuss the incident again. As Sheriff Buford T Justice said in Smokey In The Bandit, "That's an attention getter.".
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    • Mr KLC
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      #107
      And on another note, the Adams family reunion has been cancelled this year for reasons not yet released.
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      • TR88
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        #108
        omg so shocking

        bitch probably wants some $$$$$$$ might have a gambling problem or something
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        • Bcatswin
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          • 12-21-10
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          #109
          A Judge Beating Father



          PORTLAND, Texas (AP) — Hillary Adams says that until last week, only a couple of close friends knew about the savage beating she received seven years ago from her father, a Texas judge who handles child abuse cases.
          Now the beating is on display to the world on YouTube thanks to a secret video she made, and her father, Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams, is the subject of a police investigation.
          Hillary Adams, 23, says the outpouring of support and encouragement she's received since posting the 2004 video online last week is tempered by the sadness that it's her father lashing her 17 times with a belt and threatening to beat her "into submission." The 8-minute video had been watched nearly 2 million times by Thursday morning.
          "I'm experiencing some regret because I just pulled the covers off my own father's misbehavior after so many people thought he was such a good person. ... But so many people are also telling me I did the right thing," she told The Associated Press outside her mother's home in the Gulf Coast town of Portland, near Corpus Christi.
          "He's supposed to be a judge who exercises fit judgment," she said.
          And she said the videoed attack was not a one-off. "It did happen regularly for a period of time," she told NBC's "Today" show on Thursday.
          In the same interview, Hallie Adams blamed her ex-husband's bouts of violence on his "addiction," calling it a "family secret." She did not elaborate. Their 22-year marriage ended in 2007.
          The judge did not return an AP reporter's call seeking comment early Thursday.
          Police in Rockport, where the 51-year-old judge lives, opened an investigation Wednesday after receiving calls from several concerned citizens, Police Chief Tim Jayroe said.
          William Adams has been receiving threatening phone calls and faxes at the courthouse since the video went online, Aransas County Sheriff Bill Mills said.
          No one answered the door Wednesday at the judge's home, repeated calls to his office rang unanswered and his attorney, William Dudley, did not respond to phone messages seeking comment. A neighbor said she saw Adams and his girlfriend packing luggage, a briefcase and rifles into their truck.
          Corpus Christi television station KZTV caught up with the judge while he was getting into his vehicle Wednesday, and he confirmed it was him in the video. But he said it "looks worse than it is" and that he doesn't expect to be disciplined.
          "In my mind, I haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing," Adams said. "And I did lose my temper, but I've since apologized."
          When told of her father's comments, Hillary Adams said, "it's a shining perfect example of his personality and he believes he can do no wrong. ... He will cover up rather than admit to what he did and try to come clean."
          She stressed that she did not post the video as revenge and does not want her father punished. Rather, she did it because she thinks it will force him to seek help, and because he has been harassing her and she thought posting the clip would make that stop.
          "We need to reach out to victims and the abusers themselves to get people to realize what it actually is," she said.


          Hillary, who was 16 at the time, said she secretly videotaped the beating in her bedroom because she "knew something was about to happen." She says her parents were angry at her for using her computer to download pirated content over the Internet.
          In the clip's opening seconds, William Adams is heard telling Hillary's mother, "Go get the belt. The big one. I'm going to spank her now." With belt in hand, he turns off the light and tries forcing his daughter to bend over the bed to be beaten, but she refuses.
          "Lay down or I'll spank you in your (expletive) face," Adams screams while he lashes her with sweeping blows across the legs, ignoring her wails and pleas for him to stop.
          A few minutes into the video, Hillary's mother barks at her to "turn over like a 16-year-old and take it! Like a grown woman!" For about a minute, the ordeal appears to have ended after both parents leave the room and shut the door. But the judge then storms back into the room and the beating resumes.
          Hallie Adams said she was "completely brainwashed and controlled" by her ex-husband.
          "I did every single thing that he did," she told NBC. Hillary Adams said she is not angry at her mother.
          Child advocates roundly condemned the beating as abuse. But investigators may decide that the judge's actions, while shocking, weren't criminal.
          The lines between what's deemed child abuse and what's considered an acceptable level of discipline differ across the country and among various social groups, though the use of objects such as belts and sticks is usually seen as beyond any normal physical punishment, said David Finkelhor, a University of New Hampshire sociology professor who heads the school's Crimes against Children Research Center.
          Adams, Aransas County's top judge, was elected in 2001 and has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking determine whether parents were fit to raise their children.
          Patrick Crimmins, a spokesman for the state Department of Family and Protective Services, said in an email that the agency is aware of the video and "will take the appropriate steps in this matter." He said the agency would have no further comment.
          ___
          Associated Press writers Danny Robbins, Diana Heidgerd and Linda Stewart Ball in Dallas, and Paul J. Weber in San Antonio contributed to this report.
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          • Bcatswin
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            • 12-21-10
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            #110
            Ratted out her dad unreal.
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            • robzilla
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              • 10-25-07
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              #111
              Originally posted by Mr KLC
              I used the belt on my children when they were younger. The only time it would come out though is if they tried to come out with a smart remark when I was disciplining them a different way (grounding, taking something away, etc.). I'd give them a swat, let them shake off the pain, and then discuss the incident again. As Sheriff Buford T Justice said in Smokey In The Bandit, "That's an attention getter.".
              You taught ur kid that if he doesnt like how someone is acting you should hit them.

              Short term, ya maybe you solved the problem, but long term that kind of thinking takes years to get rid of.
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              • TK
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                • 12-05-09
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                #112
                That video was very hard to watch. I hope the good judge wil get what he deserves
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                • Bcatswin
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                  • 12-21-10
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                  #113
                  Fuk that video is disturbing, mom in on it too
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                  • blackbeSSt
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                    #114
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                    • Bcatswin
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                      • 12-21-10
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                      #115
                      First time i saw the video blacker, back off.
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                      • blackbeSSt
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by Bcatswin
                        First time i saw the video blacker, back off.
                        theres a 3 page thread about it in the saloon
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                        • Bcatswin
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                          • 12-21-10
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                          #117
                          THanks pal
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                          • CanuckG
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                            • 12-23-10
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                            #118
                            Hard to watch.
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                            • blackbeSSt
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by Bcatswin
                              THanks pal
                              just fukkin with ya man! no one seems to check threads in here anymore. 90% of them are made in PT and then moved here
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                              • Mr KLC
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                                • 12-19-07
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by robzilla
                                You taught ur kid that if he doesnt like how someone is acting you should hit them.

                                Short term, ya maybe you solved the problem, but long term that kind of thinking takes years to get rid of.
                                Spare the rod, spoil the child. I have to disagree with you, my friend. My dad spanked me many a time during my childhood, and I have never been in one fight in my life. None of my three children (18,14, and 9) have ever had an issue at school, church, or anywhere else that I have ever been made aware of. I don't discredit anyone that does or does not spank their child. If the parent is not out of control, like this man was, and communicates with their child about the issue, I have no problem with spanking. Other people will disagree, and that's their opinion, but I'm an old school guy. IMO, the technique has worked for centuries, and I personally don't believe in reinventing the wheel.
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                                • DrStale
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                                  • 12-07-08
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC

                                  Spare the rod, spoil the child. I have to disagree with you, my friend. My dad spanked me many a time during my childhood, and I have never been in one fight in my life. None of my three children (18,14, and 9) have ever had an issue at school, church, or anywhere else that I have ever been made aware of. I don't discredit anyone that does or does not spank their child. If the parent is not out of control, like this man was, and communicates with their child about the issue, I have no problem with spanking. Other people will disagree, and that's their opinion, but I'm an old school guy. IMO, the technique has worked for centuries, and I personally don't believe in reinventing the wheel.
                                  So people have continued to spread violence for centuries, and that means its working? No excuse to hit your kids. Yeah people will disagree and whatever but youre still spreading a culture of violence as a solution. How can you possibly tell your children hitting is wrong and then hit them? Its stupid, and its lazy: "I cant think of a way to punish my child so ill just smack him, my brain wont have to work at all!"
                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                  If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                  • Mr KLC
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                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by DrStale
                                    So people have continued to spread violence for centuries, and that means its working? No excuse to hit your kids. Yeah people will disagree and whatever but youre still spreading a culture of violence as a solution. How can you possibly tell your children hitting is wrong and then hit them? Its stupid, and its lazy: "I cant think of a way to punish my child so ill just smack him, my brain wont have to work at all!"
                                    I can see you are pretty emotional about this subject. I respect your views on methods of discipline, but I disagree with your opinion of spanking. I just believe in following Proverbs 13:24.
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                                    • DrStale
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Mr KLC

                                      I can see you are pretty emotional about this subject. I respect your views on methods of discipline, but I disagree with your opinion of spanking. I just believe in following Proverbs 13:24.
                                      I've worked with abused kids and seen the damage done. Granted the type of corporal punishment you are referring to is not nearly as heinous as the stuff I have seen, but where do you draw the line? The culture of violence needs to be stopped, not slowed down or altered, stopped. If parents would take the time and effort they would find that there punishments more effective than putting your hands on a child, but they dont.
                                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                      If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                      • Mr KLC
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by DrStale
                                        I've worked with abused kids and seen the damage done. Granted the type of corporal punishment you are referring to is not nearly as heinous as the stuff I have seen, but where do you draw the line? The culture of violence needs to be stopped, not slowed down or altered, stopped. If parents would take the time and effort they would find that there punishments more effective than putting your hands on a child, but they dont.
                                        And that gets back to what I said in an earlier post. It is a last resort. I do the normal take things away, run laps, etc etc. I just believe you come to a point where if everything else doesn't work, you have to keep that nuclear option in the bag. In most cases I don't have to go that far because the child knows that option is out there. I think it is admiral that you want violence stopped, but with over 7 billion people in this world, that is not going to happen.
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                                        • babyjesus
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                                          #125
                                          That piece of shit....
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                                          • Mr KLC
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by DrStale
                                            I've worked with abused kids and seen the damage done. Granted the type of corporal punishment you are referring to is not nearly as heinous as the stuff I have seen, but where do you draw the line? The culture of violence needs to be stopped, not slowed down or altered, stopped. If parents would take the time and effort they would find that there punishments more effective than putting your hands on a child, but they dont.
                                            By the way, thanks for your service in helping these kids out. I work, from time to time, with a foster care association where I live, and many of these kids need more love than anyone can know.
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                                            • DrStale
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Mr KLC

                                              And that gets back to what I said in an earlier post. It is a last resort. I do the normal take things away, run laps, etc etc. I just believe you come to a point where if everything else doesn't work, you have to keep that nuclear option in the bag. In most cases I don't have to go that far because the child knows that option is out there. I think it is admiral that you want violence stopped, but with over 7 billion people in this world, that is not going to happen.
                                              Originally posted by Mr KLC

                                              By the way, thanks for your service in helping these kids out. I work, from time to time, with a foster care association where I live, and many of these kids need more love than anyone can know.
                                              Agree to disagree. People such as yourself really are not the problem I guess I have just seen too much to ever be able to live with any kind of physical interaction with a child.

                                              Thanks, its not high paying work and its tough but it is rewarding, cant see myself doing anything else.
                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                              • robzilla
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                                                #128
                                                KLC you are teaching ur kid to use violence to solve problems... perhaps because ur an ineffective communicator. It's depressing that a grown adult cant outsmart a child.
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                                                • robzilla
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                  I can see you are pretty emotional about this subject. I respect your views on methods of discipline, but I disagree with your opinion of spanking. I just believe in following Proverbs 13:24.
                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                  And that gets back to what I said in an earlier post. It is a last resort. I do the normal take things away, run laps, etc etc. I just believe you come to a point where if everything else doesn't work, you have to keep that nuclear option in the bag. In most cases I don't have to go that far because the child knows that option is out there. I think it is admiral that you want violence stopped, but with over 7 billion people in this world, that is not going to happen.
                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                  By the way, thanks for your service in helping these kids out. I work, from time to time, with a foster care association where I live, and many of these kids need more love than anyone can know.
                                                  Bro you dont know what memories your kid will remember in the future. Im 31, and I recently brought up some times when I got "disciplined". My parents were so surprised I remembered those times, and they were very embarrassed by what they did. KLC, just wait til ur kid recalls every second of your beating him, but none of the good times.
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                                                  • Avenger
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                                                    #130
                                                    This vid once reminds again I'm so happy I don't have kids and I'm not married to a psycho.

                                                    what gets me, is she posted this out of revenge, because he reduced his financial support of her.

                                                    both are scumbags; like father, like daughter.
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                                                    • GOIRISH
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                                                      #131
                                                      what a piece of shit, what was it all over something on the computer? you dont spank a 16 yr old.
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                                                      • GunShard
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                                                        #132
                                                        Corporal Punishment is barbaric.
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                                                        • Mr KLC
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by robzilla
                                                          Bro you dont know what memories your kid will remember in the future. Im 31, and I recently brought up some times when I got "disciplined". My parents were so surprised I remembered those times, and they were very embarrassed by what they did. KLC, just wait til ur kid recalls every second of your beating him, but none of the good times.
                                                          Wow! I've never had somebody call me "Bro", and then try to psychoanalyze me in the same sentence before. Anyway, its interesting that you brought up memories. My oldest just graduated from high school this past year. Before he started college, they had him, and a couple of other kids that graduated, come in front of the congregation at church. He made the comment that he knew he crossed the line at times, and he appreciated the patience his mother and I showed in keeping him in line. He felt that without that guidance, and his faith, he might not be able to make it to college. Needless to say his mother and I just wanted to start balling right there in the church. When you're a parent you sometimes reflect on the way you handled things, and could you have done this better. I have no regrets. I am so proud of my boy, and I know that he has great things in store for him.

                                                          Now, back to your point. Like I stated earlier, I respect other people's opinions on discipline. There are a number of factors that can affect that opinion (background, faith, where you live, etc.). I'm from Tennessee. You're going to see much more punishments from spanking here, than you would see in other areas. I'm an "old school" guy that loves old fashioned traditions. I don't know what your situation is. I don't know if your parents went overboard when they spanked you. I don't know if their feelings changed over time. I don't know if you went up to them, and said, "Bro, I don't appreciate you beating the heck out of me when I was a kid!", and then they apologized just to shut you up.

                                                          I can say this. Its evident we are not going to agree on this issue. All I can tell you is that I'm satisfied with the result from my oldest child, and I am pleased with how my younger two are developing. Its great to be a parent.
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                                                          • Brett
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                                                            #134
                                                            Yous guys are the reason tere is so much crime
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                                                            • hawley
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Brett
                                                              Yous guys are the reason tere is so much crime
                                                              You are clearly incapable of stringing together a sentence, let alone put together a reasoned argument.


                                                              Get back in your cave.
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                                                              • Brett
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by hawley
                                                                You are clearly incapable of stringing together a sentence, let alone put together a reasoned argument.


                                                                Get back in your cave.
                                                                Get back to letting your kids tell you what to do
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                                                                • statnerds
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Clearly excessive.

                                                                  200 lb man whipping on a child...fukkin tough guy rooster sucker
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                                                                  • Donkwin47
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Not shocking or disturbing at all.. This was standard just a generation ago when America was actually a hard-working, efficient, and prosperous country that was envied by all.. Now it's a joke because no one punishes their children.. The only problem I had with this was when he grabbed her throat, but whatever, probably by accident as he was just trying to keep her on the bed... A belt is standard.. Probably would have only been a couple spanks but she resisted and didn't accept her punishment.. If I disobeyed my parents, I'd be fine to take what I deserve.. It just seemed worse because she's a girl and she'd cry her eyes out if she got pinched.. I don't plan on beating my kids or any similar physical punishment but I have nothing people who do.. Standard classical conditioning. People who overreact to this video are pathetic and probably have kids who don't respect them or have no discipline themselves.
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                                                                    • robzilla
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      You never know how anyone will react to beatings, especially kids. You might hit a kid and they are okay with it. You might hit a kid, and they return the favor when u are old. some people belong in zoos.
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                                                                      • hawley
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Brett

                                                                        Get back to letting your kids tell you what to do
                                                                        congrats on stringing together a whole sentence.

                                                                        Next time just use a full stop to indicate it is complete.
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