SBR ALERT: Fraud Investigation Complete of FISHHEAD

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #71
    LOL

    Billsfan is in my avatar

    This has to be the silliest thread of all times

    Fishhead might be the most honest person on any forum
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #72
      Originally posted by poker_dummy101
      This thread isn't about if Billsfan is real or not. I don't care if someone is real. The fact is there is 100% without a doubt evidence that fraud has been commited:

      Here is SBR Pointbook Rules on Fraud:
      Fraud

      If SBR discovers that players within the same household are funneling points to one another, creating ghost accounts, or inviting friends to sign up from their computer to pool together points, SBR reserves the right to confiscate all points and remove access to the sportsbook and casino as necessary.


      And as stated.. ALL of billsfans points have either been used to bet something that fishhead wanted to bet OR have been transferred to him one way or another.





      Billsfan12 has been a member here for about 10 months and has a whopping 219 posts and has probably won/given less than 750 pts through SBR............and she lost 250 pts on just one of LOU's specials alone...........................









      So what you posted in bold above is clearly false, not to mention the comments above that.......




      1. We are not living in the same household
      2. There is no "ghosting" involved whatsoever
      3. No inviting of friends to pool pts.
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #73
        Originally posted by jjgold
        LOL

        Billsfan is in my avatar

        This has to be the silliest thread of all times

        Fishhead might be the most honest person on any forum

        Thanks pal, nice of you to say.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #74
          Hey get this..........

          I've probably given away more SBR PTS with -FHW- REBATES than pts Billsfan12 has earned/won lifetime from everything...............but PokerDummy is convinced that Billsfan and I are running some type of grand scam to aquire SBR PTs.


          GEEZUS H. CRICKETS
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #75
            This pokerman is angry and jealous

            Pokerman I might black list you here unless you apologize to Fishhead.
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            • michalis
              Restricted User
              • 01-02-10
              • 1439

              #76
              first post edited? what happened?
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82840

                #77
                There are no rules enforced here. Just live with it. Even when you report it to the mods or administrators nothing is done. And I'm not talking about the person accused in this thread. No one really cares. Move on people!
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #78
                  Pokerman is talk of boardroom,

                  He might might be blacklisted.
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                  • 3PtShooter
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-13-08
                    • 3936

                    #79
                    interesting read,,,will make you think
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                    • LostBankroll
                      Restricted User
                      • 02-10-10
                      • 4538

                      #80
                      BAN POKERMANE. FISHY is the greatest poster here IMO. Dude knows his shit. Thanks for opening my eyes to Matchy Fishy! I <3 me some Fishy.
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #81
                        Gang, there is no reason to BAN pokerman, he simply made a wrong aquisation................NO NEED FOR BANISHMENT.


                        If SBR brass is considering this, please don't..............THIS IS NO BIG DEAL TO ME WHATSOEVER, and that being the case, banishment should not even be remotely considered.
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                        • LostBankroll
                          Restricted User
                          • 02-10-10
                          • 4538

                          #82
                          Fish has spoken. BAN POKERMANE!!!!!
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                          • hockeyman30304
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-25-08
                            • 634

                            #83
                            this is pretty interesting ill keep reading this thread
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #84
                              Originally posted by LostBankroll
                              Fish has spoken. BAN POKERMANE!!!!!



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                              • poker_dummy101
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-03-08
                                • 6395

                                #85
                                Its plain as day for anyone to see.

                                Good job fish. You tried to back up your stance with something I used as an example. Lou's special line...somehow you also placed 1000 points on it.

                                Again: All points from billsfan were given to fishhead or bet on things fishhead wanted to bet. When i called them out in december, billsfan mysteriously stopped posting. in may, she started back posting.. and guess what.. all of her points are going to fishhead or bet on behalf of fishhead.

                                please explain how you idiots think that is not this:


                                Fraud

                                If SBR discovers that players within the same household are funneling points to one another, creating ghost accounts, or inviting friends to sign up from their computer to pool together points, SBR reserves the right to confiscate all points and remove access to the sportsbook and casino as necessary.
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                                • eidolon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-02-08
                                  • 9531

                                  #86
                                  fishhead: are you good friends with Doug?
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by eidolon
                                    fishhead: are you good friends with Doug?

                                    I've met him a few times at previous bashes.........and consider him a friend.

                                    A "good" friend may be stretching it a bit..........
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                                    • eidolon
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-02-08
                                      • 9531

                                      #88
                                      I think fishhead does some kind of middling with the sbr points. That is why he takes such large wagers. He bets a game in real life (money) that he likes, then offers the other side to the sbr for points. Its like an instant payout of sbr points if he loses; no role over or anything of the sort.
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                                      • poker_dummy101
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-03-08
                                        • 6395

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by eidolon
                                        I think fishhead does some kind of middling with the sbr points. That is why he takes such large wagers. He bets a game in real life (money) that he likes, then offers the other side to the sbr for points. Its like an instant payout of sbr points if he loses; no role over or anything of the sort.

                                        and what the hell does that have to do with billsfan's account?
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                                        • noober
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 2012

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by nobs
                                          why would someone like Fishhead, a guy who wins 99% of the time he goes to a casino, need to do anything fradulent ?
                                          nobs is stiffer, who still owns me a lot of points
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #91
                                            dummy101...........stop embarrassing yourself.

                                            Are you over 19 years of age??

                                            I think most, including myself, think not.
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                                            • shari91
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-23-10
                                              • 32661

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                                              dummy101...........stop embarrassing yourself. Are you over 19 years of age?? I think most, including myself, think not.
                                              I don't think he is embarrassing himself at all. Unless I missed it, he didn't state that he thought BillsFan didn't exist at all but for some reason that's the point that has been run with in here. It seemed to me that he was implying her sole purpose of being here is to funnel you points and when it was pointed out in December, that activity stopped for several months.

                                              He's bringing up a valid question that would be posed to any known couple on here I would think. If everyone knew my boyfriend/husband posted on here and the only thing I have done with my points - other than bet on one special line that sucked in A LOT of posters on here - was to bet on offers made by my partner, wouldn't people be curious as to what was going on?

                                              Even if it is all innocent, it still seems a bit strange. But then again, if you don't live together I guess there really isn't any rule being broken in SBR's eyes so fair enough. You're taking advantage of the system within the rules stipulated on here so good on you for finding a way to circumvent it I guess.
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                                              • clonecat
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-29-05
                                                • 1225

                                                #93
                                                Points have turned into quite the drama.

                                                Reminds me of some of the worst month's on the forum when reputation points were being given out.
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82840

                                                  #94
                                                  I think this issue comes up every couple months. The last I recall is two guys from the soccer forum who are roommates and have been posting at SBR for the last 2-3 years and one day one transferred points to the other one. Immediately they were caught by SBR and the points were confiscated and one of the two no longer receives points.
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                                                  • poker_dummy101
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-03-08
                                                    • 6395

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                                    I don't think he is embarrassing himself at all. Unless I missed it, he didn't state that he thought BillsFan didn't exist at all but for some reason that's the point that has been run with in here. It seemed to me that he was implying her sole purpose of being here is to funnel you points and when it was pointed out in December, that activity stopped for several months.

                                                    He's bringing up a valid question that would be posed to any known couple on here I would think. If everyone knew my boyfriend/husband posted on here and the only thing I have done with my points - other than bet on one special line that sucked in A LOT of posters on here - was to bet on offers made by my partner, wouldn't people be curious as to what was going on?

                                                    Even if it is all innocent, it still seems a bit strange. But then again, if you don't live together I guess there really isn't any rule being broken in SBR's eyes so fair enough. You're taking advantage of the system within the rules stipulated on here so good on you for finding a way to circumvent it I guess.

                                                    I don't understand how everyone else is so ignorant not to see this. Spot on Shari.
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                                                    • poker_dummy101
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-03-08
                                                      • 6395

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                      dummy101...........stop embarrassing yourself.

                                                      The only person embarassing his/herself is you.

                                                      Facts are facts
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                                                      • shari91
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-23-10
                                                        • 32661

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        I think this issue comes up every couple months. The last I recall is two guys from the soccer forum who are roommates and have been posting at SBR for the last 2-3 years and one day one transferred points to the other one. Immediately they were caught by SBR and the points were confiscated and one of the two no longer receives points.
                                                        Yeah, I was going to mention those two but since they live together I guess that is forbidden but if you don't live together it's not.

                                                        Pavy, do you want to be my Internet boyfriend and we can funnel points back and forth to each other? I'm saving up for something special but since I always forget about the Book it's going to take me 10 years at this rate. Once I get enough to make my special purchase I'll send them all to you.
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                                                        • Fishhead
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40179

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by shari91
                                                          I don't think he is embarrassing himself at all. Unless I missed it, he didn't state that he thought BillsFan didn't exist at all but for some reason that's the point that has been run with in here. It seemed to me that he was implying her sole purpose of being here is to funnel you points and when it was pointed out in December, that activity stopped for several months.

                                                          He's bringing up a valid question that would be posed to any known couple on here I would think. If everyone knew my boyfriend/husband posted on here and the only thing I have done with my points - other than bet on one special line that sucked in A LOT of posters on here - was to bet on offers made by my partner, wouldn't people be curious as to what was going on?

                                                          Even if it is all innocent, it still seems a bit strange. But then again, if you don't live together I guess there really isn't any rule being broken in SBR's eyes so fair enough. You're taking advantage of the system within the rules stipulated on here so good on you for finding a way to circumvent it I guess.

                                                          Taking advantage of nothing,............how is Billsfan paying a 1% transaction fee to make a few small wagers with -FHW- taking advantage of a system..............why wouldn't she just keep the pts herself and save the fee?

                                                          Billsfan12 can spend pts just as easy as I can............and save 1% in the process.

                                                          Geezus, Billsfan has been a member for 10 months(roughly 300 days) and I doubt she has even singed in and/or posted in half those days........if she wanted to amass pts or I wanted her to give me pts, don't you think she would take 50 seconds to pick up 7 pts everyday??

                                                          Again, in 10 months, I doubt if Billsfan has ever had over 400 pts at one time...... or for that matter, given/earned/won much over that figure overall.
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                                                          • poker_dummy101
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-03-08
                                                            • 6395

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                            Geezus, Billsfan has been a member for 10 months(roughly 300 days) and I doubt she has even singed in and/or posted in half those days........if she wanted to amass pts or I wanted her to give me pts, don't you think she would take 50 seconds to pick up 7 pts everyday??

                                                            Again, in 10 months, I doubt if Billsfan has ever had over 400 pts at one time...... or for that matter, given/earned/won much over that figure overall.

                                                            Thats because I called you out in December and she mysteriously stopped posting for 5 months, like I said. Its all there in the threads fishy. Hell, even Gold knew you should be banned for it.. which was also in my original post and now in EI's post.

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                                                            • Fishhead
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-11-05
                                                              • 40179

                                                              #100
                                                              Billsfan12 giving SBR 1% on offers she takes up and drawing numerous hits in this thread and others for SBR.


                                                              SBR is laughing all the way to the bank having Billsfan12 as a poster...........not to mention Billsfan12 actually plays at numeous SBR sponsored books, something I'm sure many in this thread don't do at with even ONE sponsored book, let alone numerous ones.
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                                                              • shari91
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-23-10
                                                                • 32661

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                Taking advantage of nothing,............how is Billsfan paying a 1% transaction fee to make a few small wagers with -FHW- taking advantage of a system..............why wouldn't she just keep the pts herself and save the fee? Billsfan12 can spend pts just as easy as I can............and save 1% in the process. Geezus, Billsfan has been a member for 10 months(roughly 300 days) and I doubt she has even singed in and/or posted in half those days........if she wanted to amass pts or I wanted her to give me pts, don't you think she would take 50 seconds to pick up 7 pts everyday?? Again, in 10 months, I doubt if Billsfan has ever had over 400 pts at one time...... or for that matter, given/earned/won much over that figure overall.
                                                                Fishy, I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate here so just bear with me.

                                                                1. Paying 1% of a transfer is still better than you not receiving the points at all. It's an unavoidable part of doing business.

                                                                2. If BillsFan is like myself, and has no desire or need to use the points system then they would be much better off in your hands than to merely accumulate dust in her non-interest bearing account as you DO use them to make purchases.

                                                                3. If BillsFan were indeed amassing a large amount of points, it would make it much more difficult for her to transfer you the points without someone noticing and raising their suspicions.

                                                                4. If BillsFan has barely signed in during the past 10 months, why has she managed to do so during the exact time frames you offer special lines? The lines aren't open all day long and this is a rather new venture of yours.
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                                                                • Fishhead
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                                  • 40179

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                                                                  Thats because I called you out in December and she mysteriously stopped posting for 5 months, like I said. Its all there in the threads fishy. Hell, even Gold knew you should be banned for it.. which was also in my original post and now in EI's post.



                                                                  If you want to think that, go ahead.


                                                                  Billsfan told me she stopped posting because she was tired of stumbling across childish posts like yours and a few others at SBR..............something she seldom has to deal with at TheRX, a place she posts almost daily and a forum she enjoys 3x better than this one.
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                                                                  • shari91
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-23-10
                                                                    • 32661

                                                                    #103
                                                                    And again Fishy, I would expect the same scrutiny if I were in your position although I personally would make sure I would never do anything on here to invoke this kind of suspicion because look at what happens.
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                                                                    • LostBankroll
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-10-10
                                                                      • 4538

                                                                      #104
                                                                      This shit is silly. Even if true I couldnt give 2 girls 1 cup. **** these points real talk. They are made for you to throw them away in the sportsbook/casino anyways. RX > SBR. RX smaller more united community.
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                                                                      • paco
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-07-09
                                                                        • 62873

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Smells fishy in here. (no pun intended)
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