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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65086

    #1
    Should people scam offshore?
    Theyve been scamming players talk for years (no need to name all the books and millions stolen)

    Its a slippery slope but with so many closures, slow pays, change of rules, etc over the years....I kinda think it should be allowed to scam them.

    I think if you want to scam them for a few hundred up to thousands, its fair game
  • Itsamazing777
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-14-12
    • 12602

    #2
    How would you scam them?
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    • VeggieDog
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-21-09
      • 7214

      #3
      I think they're aware of any and all scams that our pea-brains could come up with.
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      • unde0087
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-27-08
        • 28868

        #4
        Reported
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65086

          #5
          Originally posted by Itsamazing777
          How would you scam them?
          Originally posted by VeggieDog
          I think they're aware of any and all scams that our pea-brains could come up with.
          chargebacks, bonus manipulations on double accounts, etc
          Originally posted by unde0087
          Reported

          who are you reporting it to?

          worst case scenario i should be salooned since this is a usa forum and directly against their business. im actually helping sbr by doing this though. im a real mother teresa

          these offshore scumbags have stolen money for years...wsex, betislands, etc


          shouldnt we get even now? esp during football season
          Last edited by RudyRuetigger; 10-26-24, 06:26 PM.
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          • JohnGalt2341
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-31-09
            • 9138

            #6
            I somewhat agree with you on this Rudy, to a certain extent. My feelings are, they should have to accept Bad Lines. If they can't figure this shit out... fukk 'em.

            Also Rudy I want to respond further on your comment in my contest thread.

            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            it makes sense youre a democrat and want to void free speech


            was his 1 comment that much of a problem with for you?
            I've never once ever reported a poster, nor complained about a poster to ANYONE EVER. How about you? Now you tell me which one of us believes more in free speech.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65086

              #7
              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
              I somewhat agree with you on this Rudy, to a certain extent. My feelings are, they should have to accept Bad Lines. If they can't figure this shit out... fukk 'em.

              Also Rudy I want to respond further on your comment in my contest thread.



              I've never once ever reported a poster, nor complained about a poster to ANYONE EVER. How about you? Now you tell me which one of us believes more in free speech.
              so you think my OFF TOPIC (of your) thread is a good idea to bring my questions that you have answers to?

              1. you only think bad lines should be honored? I feel like certain offshore books right now should be scammed....what about the likes of BetIslands and Wsex???

              2. have i reported a poster? bro, ive been banned here more than Osama Bin Laden in USA. Dont try to compare the two. Tell me, why should I have been banned? Every action has a reaction....so when I am banned for something like saying SBR Drew should take the weekend off, yea im gonna come back swinging.... YOu, and many people dont think Im reasonable, which in my opinion is ridiculous


              Do I think I am going to last here more than a week? No, so no need to respond
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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65086

                #8
                this is a logical question, sad to see it moved
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                • asiagambler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6831

                  #9
                  I never did it but 5dimes streak contest was easy to scam

                  IYKYK
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65086

                    #10
                    Originally posted by asiagambler
                    I never did it but 5dimes streak contest was easy to scam

                    IYKYK
                    I dont know

                    I assume its over, give me the short version?
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                    • HoleWrecker
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-12-24
                      • 174

                      #11
                      I raped gtbets one time a long time ago and they paid me. I was exploiting some error they had.

                      They sent me 3k in bitcoin I wish I would have kept it. It would be work like 500k now.
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                      • asiagambler
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-23-17
                        • 6831

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                        I dont know

                        I assume its over, give me the short version?
                        Software glitch that let you pick a game after it started

                        If you remember they had a leaderboard for longest streak and I remember someone got the top prize which was like $2000 cash I think for getting 25 in a row

                        ...which is really not that much considering how ridiculously hard it is to get 25 correct picks in a row (most days, the biggest favourite on the board was probably like a -150)

                        But hey it was a free contest so no one should really complain about it I guess. Anyway, I always assumed that guy used this glitch or some other variation of it because there's no way he luckboxed into 25 in a row that quickly
                        Last edited by asiagambler; 10-26-24, 08:39 PM.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60712

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                          this is a logical question, sad to see it moved
                          Not a good look conspiring to fraud anyone on our forum, if you were serious about it.

                          Fine to talk about the problems of course. But don't go into specific ways to cheat.



                          Also, SBR is not against all offshore talk. Plenty of members still have no choice. But we can longer promote or support non US/CA books with mediation due to our own licensing agreements.
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                          • JohnGalt2341
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-31-09
                            • 9138

                            #14
                            Since this thread is in the saloon... I want to reply further to one of your posts. To expose YOUR hypocrisy, not mine.

                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            I guess if he labeled this "contest 2 team winner" you wouldnt be posting this nonsense?

                            keep it up galt...do as i say, not as i do

                            dougy is the best tennis handicapper around here, what have you done anywhere that posters should respect?
                            Remember this thread Rudy?



                            Apparently, you were deeply offended by this thread. Why? Was it the word Gay? Or the word Black? Neither of these words are offensive. I'm simply asking a question(mostly to see how many homophobes and or racists are at SBR), not insulting anyone. You don't seem to know the difference.

                            Look at your responses in that thread, you called for INFRACTIONS on me in multiple posts in that thread alone. I've NEVER ONCE called for infractions on ANYONE on SBR. Now, you tell me who the hypocrite snowflake is.

                            Don't challenge me Rudy. I will expose you. Your best bet is to just tail my political wagers and not interact with me, and be happy with that.

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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65086

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                              Since this thread is in the saloon... I want to reply further to one of your posts. To expose YOUR hypocrisy, not mine.



                              Remember this thread Rudy?



                              Apparently, you were deeply offended by this thread. Why? Was it the word Gay? Or the word Black? Neither of these words are offensive. I'm simply asking a question(mostly to see how many homophobes and or racists are at SBR), not insulting anyone. You don't seem to know the difference.

                              Look at your responses in that thread, you called for INFRACTIONS on me in multiple posts in that thread alone. I've NEVER ONCE called for infractions on ANYONE on SBR. Now, you tell me who the hypocrite snowflake is.

                              Don't challenge me Rudy. I will expose you. Your best bet is to just tail my political wagers and not interact with me, and be happy with that.

                              you think my posts in that thread were serious?

                              do you want to see my ledger of recent infractions/bans?

                              you are so out of your league
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65086

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                Not a good look conspiring to fraud anyone on our forum, if you were serious about it.

                                Fine to talk about the problems of course. But don't go into specific ways to cheat.



                                Also, SBR is not against all offshore talk. Plenty of members still have no choice. But we can longer promote or support non US/CA books with mediation due to our own licensing agreements.

                                makes sense.

                                i got carried away with a few books when i posted last and was going to talk about them but i guess i passed out too soon

                                my apologies


                                dumb place for me to even make this thread
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                                • slewfan
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-01-15
                                  • 15755

                                  #17
                                  I don't know if this thread is appropriate for scams. Opti you can delete it if it's not the right place.

                                  What about all those off shore Poker Places that were caught ripping people off over the years.?. Sure, I think maybe guys like Phil Ivy and others ended up getting fined. But what about the millions of people who were scammed out of money and were never re imbursed.?

                                  Finding ways to scam Off shores is a sure way to lose in the end. I think it's fine to discuss it reasonably. But it is always the player who gets screwed in the end anyway.

                                  Make love not war.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 102361

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                    Theyve been scamming players talk for years (no need to name all the books and millions stolen)

                                    Its a slippery slope but with so many closures, slow pays, change of rules, etc over the years....I kinda think it should be allowed to scam them.

                                    I think if you want to scam them for a few hundred up to thousands, its fair game

                                    so you are advocating committing fraud? Is that to every offshore book or just those you don't like?
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65086

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                      so you are advocating committing fraud? Is that to every offshore book or just those you don't like?
                                      how many get shut down stealing people's money?

                                      do you realize how many millions were stolen?
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                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 65086

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by slewfan
                                        I don't know if this thread is appropriate for scams. Opti you can delete it if it's not the right place.

                                        What about all those off shore Poker Places that were caught ripping people off over the years.?. Sure, I think maybe guys like Phil Ivy and others ended up getting fined. But what about the millions of people who were scammed out of money and were never re imbursed.?

                                        Finding ways to scam Off shores is a sure way to lose in the end. I think it's fine to discuss it reasonably. But it is always the player who gets screwed in the end anyway.

                                        Make love not war.
                                        yea exactly

                                        not everyone was reimbursed at any site/.... fulltilt, absolute poker, ultimate bet---the rake was still taken and many werent paid in full

                                        wsex, betislands, etc when it comes to sportsbooks

                                        why should the players always get screwed????


                                        at least onshore there are legal ways to deal with it
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                                        • DwightShrute
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-17-09
                                          • 102361

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                          how many get shut down stealing people's money?

                                          do you realize how many millions were stolen?

                                          if you are will to "gamble" and play offshore with a low rated book, then you have no one to blame but yourself. Personally, I wouldn't do it. I don't want to pull teeth to get paid. No one does. When you get into bed with a goofy offshore book and they steal you money, you shouldn't be surprised. That goes with any company. If they have a bad reputation, why deal with them?

                                          There are rock solid books offshore which have earned a reputation, many for decades, for always paying their players. I have worked at a couple in the past and I continue to bet offshore. Some of these books have been having their best years ever since the US allowed States to choose whether to allow people to bet on sports. There are many great reasons to bet offshore with a solid book. Most bettors have more than one book anyways and crypto makes it super easy.

                                          Advocating to scam businesses makes you the same as those companies doesn't it? Make love not war. Surround yourself with good people and don't let the bad ones occupy your soul. You are a smart guy, you know all this already.
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65086

                                            #22
                                            no sense in me replying with a rebuttal, we can just agree to disagree

                                            would you agree or disagree that offshore is a pyramid scheme?
                                            Last edited by RudyRuetigger; 11-02-24, 12:33 PM.
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