What are Americans to do.?

19th Hole · 10-04-24, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by slewfan

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Feds say there's no money left to respond to hurricanes — after FEMA spent $640M on migrants

3 months ago, Myorkis said they (meaning we of course) had plenty of money for Hurricane season. Today he said, the money has dried up. He cited heat waves and some other phony excuses. Guess where most of it went.

This is way beyond politics. It is just wrong.

Biden admin ignites fury for prioritizing illegal immigrants with your cash over Americans

Even Kamala's running mate wants to know what's happening.

Rep. Waltz questions Pentagon for not greenlighting help for Helene victims: ‘Could be up there now saving lives’

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Feds say there’s no money left to respond to hurricanes — after FEMA spent $1.4B on migrants

ByeShea · 10-04-24, 02:38 PM

Absolute scumbags.

It's time to clean house.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just received this note from a SpaceX engineer helping on the ground in North Carolina. <a href="https://twitter.com/fema?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FEMA</a> is not merely failing to adequately help people in trouble, but is actively blocking citizens who try to help!<br><br>“Hey Elon, update here on site of Asheville, NC. We have powered up two…</p>— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1842246865234128978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ByeShea · 10-04-24, 03:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kamala reportedly taped an episode of “Call Her Daddy” — a podcast on women’s sexual relationships — two days ago, as Hurricane disaster recovery was ongoing with bodies being found left and right.<br><br>This should be career ending. <a href="https://t.co/7rRIFvFG51">pic.twitter.com/7rRIFvFG51</a></p>— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) <a href="https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1842274136271298720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

str · 10-04-24, 04:36 PM

C'Mon Man.

You guys are wild. Lolol.

False claims that federal emergency disaster money was given to migrants in the U.S. illegally have spread quickly in recent days, boosted by former President Donald Trump and some of his most high-profile supporters.
Trump repeated one of the more extreme baseless allegations during a rally Thursday in Saginaw, Michigan, saying that the money had been stolen.

“They stole the FEMA money, just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season,” Trump said.
Trump and his allies appear to be conflating two different funds. FEMA has dedicated disaster relief money that cannot be used for other purposes. Separately, it was tasked by Congress in 2022 to disseminate money from Customs and Border Protection to help communities that received influxes of migrants.
The false claims have gained significant traction among Trump supporters and conservative media since Wednesday, when Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the agency would need more money for the rest of the hurricane season and Helene recovery, and called for a stable source of reliable funds.
On its specifically dedicated fact check page, FEMA responded to the claim that disaster relief was “diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.”
“No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts,” FEMA said in its post. “Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.”
FEMA added: “FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs.”
FEMA did administer $640 million in grants from Customs and Border Protection in 2024 and about $364 million in 2023 to cities and counties that serve migrants. However, that program called the Shelter and Services Program, or SSP, is separate from FEMA’s disaster relief fund which is more than $20 billion.
The SSP was created in 2022 when cities were struggling to deal with influxes of migrants. That same year, Congress directed Customs and Border Protection to transfer $800 million to FEMA to support cities sheltering migrants. The money was transferred to FEMA and, as with many other federal grant programs FEMA managed the distribution of the grants.
For 2023 and 2024 SSP funds were given to cities like Denver, Chicago and Philadelphia, as well as to nonprofit organizations like Catholic Charities and The Salvation Army.
It is illegal for funding that is appropriated by Congress for one purpose to be diverted and used for another purpose.
Disaster funds are separate and used to direct, coordinate, manage and fund eligible response and recovery efforts associated with domestic major disasters and emergencies.

str · 10-04-24, 04:38 PM

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slewfan · 10-04-24, 05:27 PM

Here's more of the TRUTH. ''str'' will print anything even if he knows it is false.
AVOIDING THE ISSUE

Reporters ask zero questions about historic disaster when given rare access to Biden

slewfan · 10-04-24, 05:44 PM

str, you missed this one brother.

Volunteers rescuing NC Helene victims ask where federal government is: 'No support, no leadership'

str · 10-04-24, 05:44 PM

Fox news.

You guys are so serious about this.

I applaud the passion but man, take a tums.

You guys are all so wound up.

You have to know that all this is over the top right?

I hope so, but good luck man.

slewfan · 10-04-24, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by str

Fox news.

You guys are so serious about this.

I applaud the passion but man, take a tums.

You guys are all so wound up.

You have to know that all this is over the top right?

I hope so, but good luck man.

Sounds like you're the one wound up. All you know is what the fake news prints. Like Biden was totally in control of his cognitive thinking and capable of remaining at his position. I understand you guys. Trump Bad, Harris Good.

Good luck to you.

str · 10-05-24, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by slewfan

Sounds like you're the one wound up. All you know is what the fake news prints. Like Biden was totally in control of his cognitive thinking and capable of remaining at his position. I understand you guys. Trump Bad, Harris Good.

Good luck to you.

Not wound up a bit. But when you call me a liar for linking the front page of a major newspaper, what does that say?

I mean, your news source does not even try and hide their bias. But I am a liar. And I am not "you guys". I am me.

But whatever makes you feel better Slew.

slewfan · 10-05-24, 09:39 AM

Gotcha str. NO problem. But check it out.

Volunteers rescuing NC Helene victims ask where federal government is: 'No support, no leadership'

str · 10-05-24, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by slewfan

Gotcha str. NO problem. But check it out.

Volunteers rescuing NC Helene victims ask where federal government is: 'No support, no leadership'

I’m not there and I would be full of it if I thought I even had a clue of what some of those poor people are going through. That said, the political climate has gotten so toxic that it’s hard to trust anything at this point.
I can only hope that talk aside, the people there are being helped as well and as quickly as possible. Anything less would be un-American IMO.
And I certainly don’t mean you but I mean political parties or news outlets. I see that as out of bounds but both sides are really down in the gutter this time.

And I won’t talk badly about you ever. You had me at your poster name. Slew was better than he ever could show believe it or not. No question in my mind about that. Solid ownership with the horse first and he would have been even greater than he was. And he was truly great. On that real short list of greatest greats if you know what I mean.
GL.

slewfan · 10-05-24, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by str

I’m not there and I would be full of it if I thought I even had a clue of what some of those poor people are going through. That said, the political climate has gotten so toxic that it’s hard to trust anything at this point.
I can only hope that talk aside, the people there are being helped as well and as quickly as possible. Anything less would be un-American IMO.
And I certainly don’t mean you but I mean political parties or news outlets. I see that as out of bounds but both sides are really down in the gutter this time.

And I won’t talk badly about you ever. You had me at your poster name. Slew was better than he ever could show believe it or not. No question in my mind about that. Solid ownership with the horse first and he would have been even greater than he was. And he was truly great. On that real short list of greatest greats if you know what I mean.
GL.

slewfan · 10-07-24, 09:39 AM

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Video nukes WH defense as Americans left short after funds spent on illegal immigrants

FEMA fires back at hurricane response criticism

slewfan · 10-07-24, 05:33 PM

This is why Democrats should be destroyed.

'Who's FEMA?'

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Special ops vets form ‘Redneck Air Force’ to ferry aid into NC mountains after feds come up short

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Federal relief workers say FEMA is moving away from helping greatest number of people— to LGBTQ ‘disaster equity’ in woke webinar

b1slickguy · 10-07-24, 09:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FEMA Disaster Preparedness Meeting:<br><br>"We should focus our efforts on LGBTQIA people… they struggled before the storm"<br><br>"FEMA relief is no longer about getting the greatest good for the greatest amount of people…. It's about disaster equity." <a href="https://t.co/IqXeKI8OTT">pic.twitter.com/IqXeKI8OTT</a></p>— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1843095899695931884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jackpot269 · 10-07-24, 11:49 PM

Congress has the power of the purse; they should have made that money for disaster relief. We could take back some of the trillions in tax breaks given to the rich and large companies since congress did not allocate enough money for disaster relief.
You would think congressman would know that. Or they do, and like spreading shit.

slewfan · 10-08-24, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

Congress has the power of the purse; they should have made that money for disaster relief. We could take back some of the trillions in tax breaks given to the rich and large companies since congress did not allocate enough money for disaster relief.
You would think congressman would know that. Or they do, and like spreading shit.

You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.? These Corporations creating thousands of jobs for American people who pay taxes and live good lives.?.

You leftists crying about tax breaks for the rich is just a lie. It made America great with jobs and much more tax revenue.

b1slickguy · 10-09-24, 05:34 PM

jackpot269 · 10-10-24, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by slewfan

You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.? These Corporations creating thousands of jobs for American people who pay taxes and live good lives.?.

You leftists crying about tax breaks for the rich is just a lie. It made America great with jobs and much more tax revenue.

Never happened.

Trickledown economics has never worked, not before Trump, and did not work with Trump!

jackpot269 · 10-10-24, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by slewfan

You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.? These Corporations creating thousands of jobs for American people who pay taxes and live good lives.?.

You leftists crying about tax breaks for the rich is just a lie. It made America great with jobs and much more tax revenue.

The main reason companies leave the US is labor cost, not taxes. Taxes may be a small part of it for some, but by far the reason is Labor cost.
That is labor cost not just labor wages there is a big difference. Labor wages are a part of labor cost, but there is a lot more to factor in. I know you are smart enough to know this, but so many that post here would have no idea.

ByeShea · 10-10-24, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by jackpot269

Trickledown economics has never worked, not before Trump, and did not work with Trump!

How could something that doesn't exist either work or not work?

"Trickledown economics" is a disparaging term, not an economic philosophy.

jackpot269 · 10-10-24, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by ByeShea

How could something that doesn't exist either work or not work?

"Trickledown economics" is a disparaging term, not an economic philosophy.

Set them up, and then knock them down. You never know who will take the bait.

Thank you. You are right, no matter what name, disparaging or otherwise you call it, it does not work.

The thinking that giving multi- millionaires and large company tax breaks benefits the working middle class and working poor, does not, and has not, ever worked, they can call it anything they/you want to.

If it's not an economic philosophy, please tell Trump and the GOP to stop trying to sell it as one. I agree, with you, it is really not, and they should not push or try a failed idea.

slewfan · 10-10-24, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

The main reason companies leave the US is labor cost, not taxes. Taxes may be a small part of it for some, but by far the reason is Labor cost.
That is labor cost not just labor wages there is a big difference. Labor wages are a part of labor cost, but there is a lot more to factor in. I know you are smart enough to know this, but so many that post here would have no idea.

Even though the U.S. taxes income earned anywhere in the world, the tax code allows American companies to defer paying taxes on income earned by their foreign subsidiaries indefinitely, as long as the profits are not returned to the parent company in the U.S.

Here's a simple example: An American company that earns 1 billion dollars in profits on sales in the United States would face a U.S. tax bill of 350 million dollars before deductions, credits and write-offs.

But if the company records those profits to an overseas subsidiary in say, Ireland, where the corporate tax rate is only 12.5% — it would owe the Irish government 125 million dollars before any adjustments, and nothing to the U.S Treasury as long as the money is not brought home.

Economics 101 — we know now that the person writing the check is not necessarily the one shouldering the burden of the tax. 70 percent of the burden of the corporate income tax falls on the workers in the form of lower wages.

When the Trump Administration unveiled, its one-page outline for rewriting the tax code this week, it featured a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 to 15 percent.
The White House also wants a one-time "tax holiday" that would allow American companies to repatriate that 2.6 trillion dollars in overseas cash at a reduced, though as yet reduced rate.
SECRETARY STEVEN MNUNCHIN:
Which will bring back trillions of dollars that are offshore to be invested here in the United States to purchase capital and to create jobs.

OldBill · 10-14-24, 09:04 AM

Biden-Harris Administration Provides More Than $20 Million to Hurricane Helene Survivors, Ongoing Search and Rescue Operations Continue in North Carolina

HE also asked TRump to helo out then snapped at reporter

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a Republican, did not meet with Mr. Biden on Sunday.

DeSantis did not respond to an invitation to join the president. The Florida governor also did not join Mr. Biden when he surveyed parts of the state affected by Hurricane Helene earlier this month. Representatives for Mr. DeSantis did not respond to requests for comment about why he did not meet with the president.

slewfan · 10-14-24, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by OldBill

Biden-Harris Administration Provides More Than $20 Million to Hurricane Helene Survivors, Ongoing Search and Rescue Operations Continue in North Carolina

HE also asked TRump to helo out then snapped at reporter

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a Republican, did not meet with Mr. Biden on Sunday.

DeSantis did not respond to an invitation to join the president. The Florida governor also did not join Mr. Biden when he surveyed parts of the state affected by Hurricane Helene earlier this month. Representatives for Mr. DeSantis did not respond to requests for comment about why he did not meet with the president.

20 million to hurricane survivors. 20 billion + to illegal people.. Shouldn't it be the other way around.?

slewfan · 10-15-24, 12:15 PM

“Once we fully understood what we–and our tenants–were facing, we expected a swift response, with the city offering meaningful resources and police protection–perhaps even from the National Guard–to help us regain control of our properties. That never happened. Instead, we were left helpless, watching as violence, bullets, and destruction overtook our buildings. Many of our legitimate tenants fled out of fear,” said Cbz. “Despite the obvious crisis, several city officials refused to acknowledge the reality. Instead, they blamed us, citing ‘code violations’ as the reason for shutting down our property–violations we couldn’t resolve for tenants who weren’t even ours.”

As their account noted they were not unique in suffering the violent gang takeover and businesses in the community were also suffering, Cbz management closed their thread by calling out officials who ignored the problem and said, “Despite clear evidence, many still deny the reality of the situation, sometimes using us as scapegoats. That’s why we are no longer staying silent. We will continue to counter falsehoods with simple facts and evidence. Yes, gangs did take control of our apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, and the government did nothing. That is the real story.”

slewfan · 10-18-24, 06:02 PM

19th Hole · 10-19-24, 03:41 AM

Biden Announces $425 Million in Aid to Ukraine

President Biden spoke by telephone to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine about the security package, which includes munitions, armored vehicles and other weapons.

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No chance of kick-backs from US hurricane victims.

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jackpot269 · 10-19-24, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by slewfan

Even though the U.S. taxes income earned anywhere in the world, the tax code allows American companies to defer paying taxes on income earned by their foreign subsidiaries indefinitely, as long as the profits are not returned to the parent company in the U.S.

Here's a simple example: An American company that earns 1 billion dollars in profits on sales in the United States would face a U.S. tax bill of 350 million dollars before deductions, credits and write-offs.

But if the company records those profits to an overseas subsidiary in say, Ireland, where the corporate tax rate is only 12.5% — it would owe the Irish government 125 million dollars before any adjustments, and nothing to the U.S Treasury as long as the money is not brought home.

Economics 101 — we know now that the person writing the check is not necessarily the one shouldering the burden of the tax. 70 percent of the burden of the corporate income tax falls on the workers in the form of lower wages.

When the Trump Administration unveiled, its one-page outline for rewriting the tax code this week, it featured a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 to 15 percent.
The White House also wants a one-time "tax holiday" that would allow American companies to repatriate that 2.6 trillion dollars in overseas cash at a reduced, though as yet reduced rate.
SECRETARY STEVEN MNUNCHIN:
Which will bring back trillions of dollars that are offshore to be invested here in the United States to purchase capital and to create jobs.

SECRETARY STEVEN MNUNCHIN:
what a joke.

Of course you are going to agree with your own policy. We will get ever administration to talk about their own policy. How many going to say it's bad.

''United States to purchase capital and to create jobs.''

Top management and CEO raises, plus bonuses and stock buy backs. None left for the workers.

jackpot269 · 10-19-24, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by slewfan

20 million to hurricane survivors. 20 billion + to illegal people.. Shouldn't it be the other way around.?

Trillions to corporations. 20 million to hurricane survivors. Shouldn't it be the other way around.?

slewfan · 10-19-24, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

SECRETARY STEVEN MNUNCHIN:
what a joke.

Of course you are going to agree with your own policy. We will get ever administration to talk about their own policy. How many going to say it's bad.

''United States to purchase capital and to create jobs.''

Top management and CEO raises, plus bonuses and stock buy backs. None left for the workers.

Oh, you finally did answer. Look who's talking about agreeing only with their own policies and beliefs. '' YOU ''.

I know, Trumps only out for himself; right.?. RIIIIIIIGGHHHT...!

You think the CEO's under Biden aren't making record profits.?. Educate me jackpot. They are not donating to the Left.?. Talk about wearing blinders.

None left for the workers. LOL. Sure jack, just go ahead and repeat what CNN tells you. I know, 'you don't watch CNN right.?

jackpot269 · 10-19-24, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by slewfan

You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.? These Corporations creating thousands of jobs for American people who pay taxes and live good lives.?.

You leftists crying about tax breaks for the rich is just a lie. It made America great with jobs and much more tax revenue.

''You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.?''

You misunderstand me, I'm all about incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries. You don't give it away, and hope to get something out of it, (because you rarely do) you give incentives for them actually following thru. Also wrong with your take, all corporation got the breaks, while all had not moved or had anything overseas.

slewfan · 10-22-24, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

''You mean incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries.?''

You misunderstand me, I'm all about incentives to bring Corporations back to America from China, Mexico and other countries. You don't give it away, and hope to get something out of it, (because you rarely do) you give incentives for them actually following thru. Also wrong with your take, all corporation got the breaks, while all had not moved or had anything overseas.

If you're all for it, then why are you playing devils advocate.?

Why not just accept the facts and forego the TDS. ?