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[DwightShrute]

what an evil woman

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[Mac4Lyfe]

I take it you do not have kids. Because if you did, you would think differently. Just like the progressive democrat lesbian and gay teachers think all kids under 12 should be indoctrinated into their world. You as a childless person think it is ok for everyone else's children to join them without the parents approval or knowledge.

You have no idea what the ''New Republican Party'' as you call them think. You only know the lies your fake news is telling you. Here you are, spewing all that crap without any understanding of what you are saying.

For example; womens rights. They have all the rights everyone else has, probably more. When it comes to abortion though, You try to make it sound like they have NO RIGHTS AT ALL.. There are other people involved. The child, the father and the grandparents. Of course under some circumstances an aborted fetus may be necessary, but it is and should be a ''STATES RIGHT''. Not the federal gov't.

JD Vance is that you? Now I'm a childless father???
Sorry, but I don't believe a women's body is a federal or states right. It's the women's right. Easy for you to tell that women to carry that baby for 9 months. We as men have zero control over that women's body. If she doesn't want to carry that baby there is nothing you can do about it. It's her choice to carry the baby to term. It's always been a woman's choice since the beginning of time. You mention other people are involved. Of course but only one person matters and that's the mother. She can choose to starve herself, drug infest her body, physically mutilate herself and terminate the baby if she chooses. The other people involved are onlookers. She can decide to put the baby up for adoption, be a surrogate, have the father or grandparents raise the child. But ALL the cards are in her hands. The government can't enforce this shit and should not enforce it. It only ends up costing taxpayers more money. "Don't ask, don't tell".

We all know people that make bad choices. Unfortunately, it's their choice. The government can't force people to choose what it thinks is best for that individual. That's not democracy.

I'll say again that Republicans are on the wrong side of this. They want the woman to have the baby under any circumstance, even when raped. WTF? They are working their asses off to change laws to force women to have unwanted babies. BUT ONCE SHE HAS THE BABY, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO A THING TO HELP THAT CHILD. They don't want to increase welfare programs to help these unwanted babies. WTF? It makes zero sense. These unwanted babies are actually more of a strain than illegals.

[jackpot269]

I agree children need to be protected and I don't think they are mature enough to make a decision to have physical surgery. BUT, there is nothing you and I can do about it if they are hell bent on disfiguring themselves. And especially if their crazy ass parents allow it. I know parents who have paid for their 13 years old daughters to have breast implants. Should you and I pay for these types of surgeries? Fukk no. Most transgendered people (kids included) have not had surgery. They identify as man, woman, furbies, queer, what have you. There is nothing I can do to make someone be normal (my normal). I believe in personal freedom as long as you don't infringe on my rights. You want to drink (kids can legally drink with their parents btw), smoke, do meth in the privacy of your home. Who am I to tell you not to. But as soon as you walk out of your house and hit someone while high, the law should come down harder on you.

I highlighted your posts above. What stands out? Parental consent is the big denominator. Well, we all know that this country is full of crazy ass parents. They have the right to raise dumb ass kids. They don't care if their 5 year old gets a tattoo, get drunk with them, smoke a joint, cut off their dicks. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it but provide education for all and hope these kids wise up.

Originally Posted by BriGuy
Newsflash: We, as a society, serve the public good by recognizing that children are not mature enough to make life altering decisions or do things that require informed thinking.

Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't drink alcohol? In Texas kids can drink alcohol with their parents legally.Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't drive? In Texas and SD you can drive at 14 (Kid to me)
Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't get tattoos? In Texas a child can get a tattoo with parental consent
Why do we, as a society, say young kids cannot enter contracts with parental/guardian consent? They can enter contracts, once again with parental consent.
Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't have sex with adults? But they can have sex with other kids???

We do all of those things - and more - because we recognize that children need to be protected, and yes sometimes that includes being protected from themselves. Children are physically immature, mentally immature and emotionally immature. Children are easily manipulated. Children are easily fooled.

If you want to cut your dikk off then you go right the fukk ahead and do it.... but if you are taking a healthy 10 year old to the hospital to get his dikk cut off, then society should step in just as we would if someone was molesting the child (I AGREE) or giving alcohol to the child or doing any other number of things which are illegal to do to children.



Imagine the stupidity of someone that would need this explained to them

Mind boggling


Spot on. Goes without saying for most people. I didn't have the energy.

[jackpot269]

Spot on. Goes without saying for most people. I didn't have the energy.

So many children regret doing this to themselves not long after. They get scabs constantly. Dryness and all sorts of complications and medication they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. England has implemented new rules on this not allowing anyone under 16 but that doesn't even go far enough. The US hasn't done a thing. Its all about these clinics making money.

Parents who allow their children to mutilate themselves should be punished. They are evil.

As if allowing your kid to have a sip of beer if under-aged is the same as permanently mutilating their bodies. WTF? Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Originally Posted by BriGuy
Newsflash: We, as a society, serve the public good by recognizing that children are not mature enough to make life altering decisions or do things that require informed thinking.

Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't drink alcohol? In Texas kids can drink alcohol with their parents legally.Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't drive? In Texas and SD you can drive at 14 (Kid to me)
Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't get tattoos? In Texas a child can get a tattoo with parental consent
Why do we, as a society, say young kids cannot enter contracts with parental/guardian consent? They can enter contracts, once again with parental consent.
Why do we, as a society, say young kids can't have sex with adults? But they can have sex with other kids???

We do all of those things - and more - because we recognize that children need to be protected, and yes sometimes that includes being protected from themselves. Children are physically immature, mentally immature and emotionally immature. Children are easily manipulated. Children are easily fooled.

If you want to cut your dikk off then you go right the fukk ahead and do it.... but if you are taking a healthy 10 year old to the hospital to get his dikk cut off, then society should step in just as we would if someone was molesting the child (I AGREE) or giving alcohol to the child or doing any other number of things which are illegal to do to children.



I agree children need to be protected and I don't think they are mature enough to make a decision to have physical surgery. BUT, there is nothing you and I can do about it if they are hell bent on disfiguring themselves. And especially if their crazy ass parents allow it. I know parents who have paid for their 13 years old daughters to have breast implants. Should you and I pay for these types of surgeries? Fukk no. Most transgendered people (kids included) have not had surgery. They identify as man, woman, furbies, queer, what have you. There is nothing I can do to make someone be normal (my normal). I believe in personal freedom as long as you don't infringe on my rights. You want to drink (kids can legally drink with their parents btw), smoke, do meth in the privacy of your home. Who am I to tell you not to. But as soon as you walk out of your house and hit someone while high, the law should come down harder on you.

I highlighted your posts above. What stands out? Parental consent is the big denominator. Well, we all know that this country is full of crazy ass parents. They have the right to raise dumb ass kids. They don't care if their 5 year old gets a tattoo, get drunk with them, smoke a joint, cut off their dicks. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it but provide education for all and hope these kids wise up.

[jackpot269]

JD Vance is that you? Now I'm a childless father???
Sorry, but I don't believe a women's body is a federal or states right. It's the women's right. Easy for you to tell that women to carry that baby for 9 months. We as men have zero control over that women's body. If she doesn't want to carry that baby there is nothing you can do about it. It's her choice to carry the baby to term. It's always been a woman's choice since the beginning of time. You mention other people are involved. Of course but only one person matters and that's the mother. She can choose to starve herself, drug infest her body, physically mutilate herself and terminate the baby if she chooses. The other people involved are onlookers. She can decide to put the baby up for adoption, be a surrogate, have the father or grandparents raise the child. But ALL the cards are in her hands. The government can't enforce this shit and should not enforce it. It only ends up costing taxpayers more money. "Don't ask, don't tell".

We all know people that make bad choices. Unfortunately, it's their choice. The government can't force people to choose what it thinks is best for that individual. That's not democracy.

I'll say again that Republicans are on the wrong side of this. They want the woman to have the baby under any circumstance, even when raped. WTF? They are working their asses off to change laws to force women to have unwanted babies. BUT ONCE SHE HAS THE BABY, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO A THING TO HELP THAT CHILD. They don't want to increase welfare programs to help these unwanted babies. WTF? It makes zero sense. These unwanted babies are actually more of a strain than illegals.

It's never the child's fault, but that's who they make suffer the most, and they don't give a shit about the child suffering, you can tell, by what they support in congress.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Spot on. Goes without saying for most people. I didn't have the energy.
So many children regret doing this to themselves not long after. They get scabs constantly. Dryness and all sorts of complications and medication they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. England has implemented new rules on this not allowing anyone under 16 but that doesn't even go far enough. The US hasn't done a thing. Its all about these clinics making money.
Parents who allow their children to mutilate themselves should be punished. They are evil.
As if allowing your kid to have a sip of beer if under-aged is the same as permanently mutilating their bodies. WTF? Liberalism is a mental disorder.

You keep labeling this as liberal thought. Prior to Trump and his attack on LGBTQ, a lot of transgendered people were Republicans. To date, it's estimated about 20% are Republicans. Hell most cross dressers were republicans back in the day. Anyway, stop turning this into a political issue. A young child doesn't have a clue about Dems/Repubs.

First off we need to clarify gender affirming care. This could be puberty blockers, hormone therapy and ultimately surgery. How many kids are actually getting surgeries in the US? I don't think it's a big number. I think most parents would want to wait until they were an adult. I could be wrong. I've never heard of anyone regretting getting surgery. Maybe there's some, I just have not heard of anyone. I think the few that get surgery think about it for a looong time before going through with it. I'd love to see actual numbers of kids getting surgeries. I just don't think it's a big number. I don't think we should publicize it and encourage it. A lot of these kids are copy cats.

I believe DWade has a son who became a daughter? I think Shaq has a son who became a girl too. Did they get their penises cut off? I have no clue. I do know that DWade said that he eventually had to accept it. So, it's very easy for you and I to say we don't agree with it but what if the child you love told you they want to change? There's also a small percentage of people that have dual sex organs. What do they do? They were born with a penis and a vagina. Eventually, they end up getting surgery.

[DwightShrute]

You keep labeling this as liberal thought. Prior to Trump and his attack on LGBTQ, a lot of transgendered people were Republicans. To date, it's estimated about 20% are Republicans. Hell most cross dressers were republicans back in the day. Anyway, stop turning this into a political issue. A young child doesn't have a clue about Dems/Repubs.

First off we need to clarify gender affirming care. This could be puberty blockers, hormone therapy and ultimately surgery. How many kids are actually getting surgeries in the US? I don't think it's a big number. I think most parents would want to wait until they were an adult. I could be wrong. I've never heard of anyone regretting getting surgery. Maybe there's some, I just have not heard of anyone. I think the few that get surgery think about it for a looong time before going through with it. I'd love to see actual numbers of kids getting surgeries. I just don't think it's a big number. I don't think we should publicize it and encourage it. A lot of these kids are copy cats.


I believe DWade has a son who became a daughter? I think Shaq has a son who became a girl too. Did they get their penises cut off? I have no clue. I do know that DWade said that he eventually had to accept it. So, it's very easy for you and I to say we don't agree with it but what if the child you love told you they want to change? There's also a small percentage of people that have dual sex organs. What do they do? They were born with a penis and a vagina. Eventually, they end up getting surgery.

Adults.

Republicans aren't against trans people. They aren't against drag queens. They aren't against gays either. They are against naked gays in the pride parade walking down the street while children are watching. Same with drag queens. Go to the bar and watch drag queens and have fun if that is what you like. They don't belong in front of children doing their sexually provocative act. Why do drag queens always need to be around children? Its called grooming. It you twerk in your 5 year old's face, you are a horrible parent. If you allow your 10 year old to take puberty blocker or cut of their penis, you are a horrible parent. If you take your child to a drag queen performance, you guessed it, you are a bad parent.

Many children have all sorts of confused feelings. From wondering if they are gay or not, or if they are bi or perhaps the wrong gender. I am sure you struggled with it back then as you do to this day. The point is, at that age, they don't know what they think yet. Some parents are telling the new born girl that they are a boy. A new born. I have seen mothers say they 2 year old boy is a girl and from now on that is what he will be. Kids say dumb shit. Some people should never be parents just as some people should never be pet owners.

I don't think taxpayers should pay for prisoners or anyone else to transition to another sex. I don't believe a man found guilty can suddenly identify as a woman and be place in a woman's prison. It happens and pregnancies in women's prison are a thing now.


Republicans have more family values than democrats in general. Republicans fight for the unborn because they are human beings and murder is illegal.


I am not gay. I know a few gay people.

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[Mac4Lyfe]

Adults.
Republicans aren't against trans people. They aren't against drag queens. They aren't against gays either. They are against naked gays in the pride parade walking down the street while children are watching. Same with drag queens. Go to the bar and watch drag queens and have fun if that is what you like. They don't belong in front of children doing their sexually provocative act. Why do drag queens always need to be around children? Its called grooming. It you twerk in your 5 year old's face, you are a horrible parent. If you allow your 10 year old to take puberty blocker or cut of their penis, you are a horrible parent. If you take your child to a drag queen performance, you guessed it, you are a bad parent.

Many children have all sorts of confused feelings. From wondering if they are gay or not, or if they are bi or perhaps the wrong gender. I am sure you struggled with it back then as you do to this day. The point is, at that age, they don't know what they think yet. Some parents are telling the new born girl that they are a boy. A new born. I have seen mothers say they 2 year old boy is a girl and from now on that is what he will be. Kids say dumb shit. Some people should never be parents just as some people should never be pet owners.

I don't think taxpayers should pay for prisoners or anyone else to transition to another sex. I don't believe a man found guilty can suddenly identify as a woman and be place in a woman's prison. It happens and pregnancies in women's prison are a thing now.
Republicans have more family values than democrats in general. Republicans fight for the unborn because they are human beings and murder is illegal.

I am not gay. I know a few gay people.

How did you get so mixed up? You really think by someone saying they're republican that they magically have more family values than a democrat or independent? WTF rock are you living under? I don't transcribe to the 2 party system. It's a fallacy to get you on one side or the other. Both parties are playing you. They are both in cahoots.

On one hand you say taxpayers shouldn't pay for prisoners but on the other you want taxpayers to pay for unwanted babies? Are you going to fight for babies WHEN THEY ARE BORN as much as when they are unborn? Are you willing to give your money to help these kids when they turn 5, 10, 15, 20? These same republicans, you praise don't want to spend a dime on poor people.

I don't have to be republican to not want gay or straight people parading sexually in front of my kids. People like you were yelling get off my lawn when Elvis was twerking in front of young teenage girls. This shit hasn't changed. You just don't agree with what you see today. Just like our dads didn't agree decades ago. This shit has NOTHING to do with politics but you've been suckered by Fox news.

and when have you heard a mom telling a 2 year old son that he's really a girl? Tic Tok? Fox? I'm calling BS on that. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find some crazy ass mom somewhere in the world. But that is not representative of the general population, so really doesn't improve your message.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

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Republicans are most definitely about Christian family values.

Democrats are doing everything to attack that pushing LGBTQ, brainwashing and mutilating young children, attacking women's rights in sport with trying to normalize men competing against them etc and more as the new normal...

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According to this thread, you are all the way to one side or the other. But the title is Left, right and Center.

No common ground. No acceptance, and very little respect.

The hatred here can be toxic. The arguing non stop.

And that's exactly how the authors of these threads must want it.

If not, the authors would take control of their threads or abandon them.

What a shame.

[DwightShrute]

How did you get so mixed up? You really think by someone saying they're republican that they magically have more family values than a democrat or independent? WTF rock are you living under? I don't transcribe to the 2 party system. It's a fallacy to get you on one side or the other. Both parties are playing you. They are both in cahoots.

On one hand you say taxpayers shouldn't pay for prisoners but on the other you want taxpayers to pay for unwanted babies? Are you going to fight for babies WHEN THEY ARE BORN as much as when they are unborn? Are you willing to give your money to help these kids when they turn 5, 10, 15, 20? These same republicans, you praise don't want to spend a dime on poor people.

I don't have to be republican to not want gay or straight people parading sexually in front of my kids. People like you were yelling get off my lawn when Elvis was twerking in front of young teenage girls. This shit hasn't changed. You just don't agree with what you see today. Just like our dads didn't agree decades ago. This shit has NOTHING to do with politics but you've been suckered by Fox news.

and when have you heard a mom telling a 2 year old son that he's really a girl? Tic Tok? Fox? I'm calling BS on that. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find some crazy ass mom somewhere in the world. But that is not representative of the general population, so really doesn't improve your message.

I said generally. That is a fact.

Go ahead and make a good argument as to why taxpayers should pay for prisoners to transition. Without mentioning anything else of course.

No of course you don't have to be a republican to not want gay people parading in front of kids. The problem with your comment is that its GENERALLY the Right who say so, the Left GENERALLY accepts it because they are afraid. They conscientiously sacrifice their integrity by pandering to the weak men and angry women of the Left. The will lie by saying republicans are banning books when books in school have been banned forever. The Right doesn't want 6-10 year olds being taught (or having access to) about oral sex in school. That shouldn't be a democrat or republican thing but it is. Generally speaking. You can deny it all ya want but denying it won't change the reality. Neither will using your go to cliche of Fox News.

There are countless examples. Its like some kind of cult they are in. I probably played with my sister's dolls when I was 3 but my parents never say that as a sign that I might be a girl. I read that children who identify as trans has increased 3X just in the last few years.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Non-binary parent says that her son was transgender “starting at the age of 2”<br><br>“When she was 4.5 she went to the gender clinic in Chicago. The doctor sat down, said: are you a girl? And she said yup. He said: ok, from now on you’re a girl.” <a href="https://t.co/Mth3azxZpW">pic.twitter.com/Mth3azxZpW</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1704911646077145507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 21, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And take this woman as example. You think her baby really let her know they were trans months old? They raised their child to be trans like it’s a science project. You don’t think this is child abuse? <a href="https://t.co/tVTelHilxT">pic.twitter.com/tVTelHilxT</a></p>&mdash; Price (@Price1_Xx302xX) <a href="https://twitter.com/Price1_Xx302xX/status/1817008257644273834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 27, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is sick. Saying an 18 month old knows he&#39;s Trans. These parents should be locked up. They have ruined that child&#39;s life! <a href="https://t.co/HP7p2H8KNG">https://t.co/HP7p2H8KNG</a></p>&mdash; PatriotGal480 (@PatriotGal480) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatriotGal480/status/1716567690478023019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 23, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I always bring the receipts

[DwightShrute]

According to this thread, you are all the way to one side or the other. But the title is Left, right and Center.

No common ground. No acceptance, and very little respect.

The hatred here can be toxic. The arguing non stop.

And that's exactly how the authors of these threads must want it.

If not, the authors would take control of their threads or abandon them.

What a shame.

That is kinda the purpose of forum. Its not only subjects such as politics which are filled with arguments. Religion as well. You have been around long enough to know that also applies to sports. The are certain sports posters who are relentlessly attacked for their threads and posts, and just as in politics, they have been called all sorts of names. We can speculate about where they are just trolls and how they just say shit they don't even really believe but that can also apply when speaking politics.

Bottom line is we should all do a better job at keeping the character assassinations to a minimum. I find myself climbing into the gutter at times and I am not happy about that when I do. I much prefer that we keep things civil but I do realized there will be jabs taken. Take a jab once in awhile and move on I say.

Oh and if anyone doesn't like it, then don't engage. Simply scroll down. Its simple. No one is forcing you.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

According to this thread, you are all the way to one side or the other. But the title is Left, right and Center.

No common ground. No acceptance, and very little respect.

The hatred here can be toxic. The arguing non stop.

And that's exactly how the authors of these threads must want it.

If not, the authors would take control of their threads or abandon them.

What a shame.

It's difficult being center after what we have seen under the Biden Admin...nothing but far left extremism and trying to normalize a slew of disgusting stuff.

It stands to reason many are pushing back against it and want some semblance of normalcy and common sense back.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I said generally. That is a fact.

Go ahead and make a good argument as to why taxpayers should pay for prisoners to transition. Without mentioning anything else of course.

No of course you don't have to be a republican to not want gay people parading in front of kids. The problem with your comment is that its GENERALLY the Right who say so, the Left GENERALLY accepts it because they are afraid. They conscientiously sacrifice their integrity by pandering to the weak men and angry women of the Left. The will lie by saying republicans are banning books when books in school have been banned forever. The Right doesn't want 6-10 year olds being taught (or having access to) about oral sex in school. That shouldn't be a democrat or republican thing but it is. Generally speaking. You can deny it all ya want but denying it won't change the reality. Neither will using your go to cliche of Fox News.

There are countless examples. Its like some kind of cult they are in. I probably played with my sister's dolls when I was 3 but my parents never say that as a sign that I might be a girl. I read that children who identify as trans has increased 3X just in the last few years.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Non-binary parent says that her son was transgender “starting at the age of 2”<br><br>“When she was 4.5 she went to the gender clinic in Chicago. The doctor sat down, said: are you a girl? And she said yup. He said: ok, from now on you’re a girl.” <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/Mth3azxZpW">pic.twitter.com/Mth3azxZpW</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1704911646077145507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 21, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And take this woman as example. You think her baby really let her know they were trans months old? They raised their child to be trans like it’s a science project. You don’t think this is child abuse? <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/tVTelHilxT">pic.twitter.com/tVTelHilxT</a></p>&mdash; Price (@Price1_Xx302xX) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Price1_Xx302xX/status/1817008257644273834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 27, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And take this woman as example. You think her baby really let her know they were trans months old? They raised their child to be trans like it’s a science project. You don’t think this is child abuse? <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/tVTelHilxT">pic.twitter.com/tVTelHilxT</a></p>&mdash; Price (@Price1_Xx302xX) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Price1_Xx302xX/status/1817008257644273834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 27, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I always bring the receipts

Should be arrested for child abuse.

Many on the forum will say as an infant, the child knew it was trans

[DwightShrute]

Should be arrested for child abuse.

Many on the forum will say as an infant, the child knew it was trans

I could get behind that.

I mistakenly posted the same tweet twice in the same post you comment on. I fixed it above and I agree with the tweet like you said.

The problem is that not everyone is fit to be parents. That is life. Pretending otherwise is silly. There lies the problem.

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It's difficult being center after what we have seen under the Biden Admin...nothing but far left extremism and trying to normalize a slew of disgusting stuff.

It stands to reason many are pushing back against it and want some semblance of normalcy and common sense back.

I do get it Jake.
I think people can be fairly centered and still be appalled at some of this sexual crap for instance that is stuffed in our faces. You can also be fairly centered and be appalled at things pushed by the other side or whatever other nonsense someone wants to focus on. There are plenty to go around. And all issues should not be assigned to one side or the other but... they are. And who assigns those?
The far other side, no matter which one, making sure that anyone that wants to say center must make a choice, a hard yes or no choice about that issue. Whichever side is doing something associated with them, the other side makes a huge deal of it to rile up people which creates division which creates sides, which creates anger, which creates tribalism, which creates, wait for it... revenue for the far right and left media, podcasts, TV, and all that pertains. So... do the sides really care about say for instance, the kids??? or is the true motivation, profit? If we are being honest with ourselves, I think most of us know that answer.

No dialogue, no meeting to join together and fight as one on anything, just more division. That is all I have seen. That's all some want.

I am glad I did not see the beginning of the Olympics and what apparently went on with that B.S. If I had tuned in to watch the ceremonies, I sure as hell didn't tune in to see what was shown.
My grandkids are in the midst of this 10 and12 year old school exposure BS and it makes me sick because of what I am left to assume. It makes their parents sick as well, but they are all over it and their kids have enough behind them to understand from their parents that it is all bullcrap. If it helps, my 12 yr. old says her and her friends all laugh about it and mock those select few teachers that push it for being idiots they see them as. In their case, they are not confused but appalled. She also says she has a gay male teacher who is one of their collective favorites. He does not push that, but they all realize it for what it is. Those 12 year old's have a clue.

The 10 year old says all his friends think it is stupid and they don't care. This is pretty cool to see but I am sure that there are a ton of kids who might not have the support others might have and could be harmed by it. And, I suppose some could be helped by it. In time, like most things, it will work itself out, but for those that suffer for yet another mistake made by adults, at what cost? That should not be lost on anyone no matter the LGTBXYZ they want to be or think they are.

Any solid point made is almost always thrown away when disrespect comes into play. All that breeds is more of the same in return. I mention that because I , like many I'm sure, do see some clown shows on these boards. But I also see some very intelligent and passionate people.
I think it would be pretty nice if at least some on these boards could find consensus. Maybe a consensus thread. Not as much fun as arguing I guess, but it would be a breath of fresh air. Wouldn't the far edge networks be upset about that? Adults getting along and figuring things out without opinions by talking heads. Kind of like the 10 and 12 year old's are doing.

All the best Jake.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I do get it Jake.
I think people can be fairly centered and still be appalled at some of this sexual crap for instance that is stuffed in our faces. You can also be fairly centered and be appalled at things pushed by the other side or whatever other nonsense someone wants to focus on. There are plenty to go around. And all issues should not be assigned to one side or the other but... they are. And who assigns those?
The far other side, no matter which one, making sure that anyone that wants to say center must make a choice, a hard yes or no choice about that issue. Whichever side is doing something associated with them, the other side makes a huge deal of it to rile up people which creates division which creates sides, which creates anger, which creates tribalism, which creates, wait for it... revenue for the far right and left media, podcasts, TV, and all that pertains. So... do the sides really care about say for instance, the kids??? or is the true motivation, profit? If we are being honest with ourselves, I think most of us know that answer.

No dialogue, no meeting to join together and fight as one on anything, just more division. That is all I have seen. That's all some want.

I am glad I did not see the beginning of the Olympics and what apparently went on with that B.S. If I had tuned in to watch the ceremonies, I sure as hell didn't tune in to see what was shown.
My grandkids are in the midst of this 10 and12 year old school exposure BS and it makes me sick because of what I am left to assume. It makes their parents sick as well, but they are all over it and their kids have enough behind them to understand from their parents that it is all bullcrap. If it helps, my 12 yr. old says her and her friends all laugh about it and mock those select few teachers that push it for being idiots they see them as. In their case, they are not confused but appalled. She also says she has a gay male teacher who is one of their collective favorites. He does not push that, but they all realize it for what it is. Those 12 year old's have a clue.

The 10 year old says all his friends think it is stupid and they don't care. This is pretty cool to see but I am sure that there are a ton of kids who might not have the support others might have and could be harmed by it. And, I suppose some could be helped by it. In time, like most things, it will work itself out, but for those that suffer for yet another mistake made by adults, at what cost? That should not be lost on anyone no matter the LGTBXYZ they want to be or think they are.

Any solid point made is almost always thrown away when disrespect comes into play. All that breeds is more of the same in return. I mention that because I , like many I'm sure, do see some clown shows on these boards. But I also see some very intelligent and passionate people.
I think it would be pretty nice if at least some on these boards could find consensus. Maybe a consensus thread. Not as much fun as arguing I guess, but it would be a breath of fresh air. Wouldn't the far edge networks be upset about that? Adults getting along and figuring things out without opinions by talking heads. Kind of like the 10 and 12 year old's are doing.

All the best Jake.

str, good post and good points throughout.

I'd love it if we all could be reasonable and find common ground but that seems like a pipe dream in the current climate.

I agree, in time it will work itself out but I do not see that happening anytime soon...

As you said, there is not much fun being agreeable as it is to try to educate, bash or bury the opposition.

We live in some crazy and polarizing times, hopefully we see positive change for all in my lifetime.

[jackpot269]

^

Republicans are most definitely about Christian family values.

Democrats are doing everything to attack that pushing LGBTQ, brainwashing and mutilating young children, attacking women's rights in sport with trying to normalize men competing against them etc and more as the new normal...

No group of Politian's, on the national stage have ever shown, Chistian family values. Jake if you truly believe that, you have never paid attention, at all, to what these people do.

They may say it, but they don't live it, or they have read a different Holly Bible than I have read.

Trump the Leader of the GOP now, cheated on all three of his wives. How is that family Chistian values.
They have fooled you Jake, too much corruption in Washington D.C. for any of them to have what I was taught growing up, in church, is Christian values.

[jackpot269]

Should be arrested for child abuse.

Many on the forum will say as an infant, the child knew it was trans

Some people should not have kids,
and even when they don't want them, there are those that would deny them the right to have an abortion. They want to put that child in these awful homes. Of course, this don't apply to all, but if they already didn't want the child its more likely to be abused. Generally

[b1slickguy]

[JAKEPEAVY21]

No group of Politian's, on the national stage have ever shown, Chistian family values. Jake if you truly believe that, you have never paid attention, at all, to what these people do.

They may say it, but they don't live it, or they have read a different Holly Bible than I have read.

Trump the Leader of the GOP now, cheated on all three of his wives. How is that family Chistian values.
They have fooled you Jake, too much corruption in Washington D.C. for any of them to have what I was taught growing up, in church, is Christian values.

Jack, alright I can buy that.

Right is still more about family values.

[DwightShrute]

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4% of the population should not have to give up their rights simply to appease your moral outrage either...

if I want to do something that you don't like, quite frankly you can go kick rocks, Karen. Follow your own morals, but don't try to enforce them on me.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^
Republicans are most definitely about Christian family values.
Democrats are doing everything to attack that pushing LGBTQ, brainwashing and mutilating young children, attacking women's rights in sport with trying to normalize men competing against them etc and more as the new normal...

and you know this how? Republicans have just as many fukked up people as Dems. They've just slinked away in a corner because Trump and his minions have bashed them. Most of the cross dressing, gay men of the 70s were Republicans. Christian values? More like a bunch of hypocrites. Like Trumps spiritual advisor who is a sexual predator? Republicans have sold their souls and values decades ago.

You know why you associate LGBTQ to Dems? Because Republicans openly make fun of anyone that is not white. It's a losing strategy. The world is becoming more diverse. The world has people from different colors, backgrounds, sexual preferences and Republicans are turning their backs on these people. Not wise. I watched a swimmer from some country win gold medal and the first thing he said was he wanted to thank his husband. I saw some other athlete from like Iran say she was queer. This is not a US phenomenon, it's world wide.

Attacking people that aren't like you is not very wise in a changing world. I just don't get why republicans are trying to shrink their base? My dads republicans had open arms, they never mocked other people and had respect for differences. Today, it's appalling the way some of you make fun of other people in this forum, making fun of people in memes. If you're gay, black, Indian, Hispanic, Chinese an immigrant (legal or illegal), a woman, etc., how could you join the republican party? All you guys do is mock/laugh at others.

[DwightShrute]

and you know this how? Republicans have just as many fukked up people as Dems. They've just slinked away in a corner because Trump and his minions have bashed them. Most of the cross dressing, gay men of the 70s were Republicans. Christian values? More like a bunch of hypocrites. Like Trumps spiritual advisor who is a sexual predator? Republicans have sold their souls and values decades ago.

You know why you associate LGBTQ to Dems? Because Republicans openly make fun of anyone that is not white. It's a losing strategy. The world is becoming more diverse. The world has people from different colors, backgrounds, sexual preferences and Republicans are turning their backs on these people. Not wise. I watched a swimmer from some country win gold medal and the first thing he said was he wanted to thank his husband. I saw some other athlete from like Iran say she was queer. This is not a US phenomenon, it's world wide.

Attacking people that aren't like you is not very wise in a changing world. I just don't get why republicans are trying to shrink their base? My dads republicans had open arms, they never mocked other people and had respect for differences. Today, it's appalling the way some of you make fun of other people in this forum, making fun of people in memes. If you're gay, black, Indian, Hispanic, Chinese an immigrant (legal or illegal), a woman, etc., how could you join the republican party? All you guys do is mock/laugh at others.

The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive. - Thomas Sowell

It's interesting because exactly why Thomas Sowell says the left avoids evidence like the plague and I just realized that we have been getting it all wrong trying to get liberals to actually see facts and see evidence. It is just impossible. That is like asking a fish to join a running competition. it's impractical. It's impossible and so you should probably remember that the next time you're baited into an argument or debate with a lefty. You just have to realize it's probably a waste of your time because it doesn't matter how much evidence you bring up or how much evidence you ask from them. What is evidence? What does that word even mean to them? It doesn't exist.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I said generally. That is a fact.
Go ahead and make a good argument as to why taxpayers should pay for prisoners to transition. Without mentioning anything else of course.

No of course you don't have to be a republican to not want gay people parading in front of kids. The problem with your comment is that its GENERALLY the Right who say so, the Left GENERALLY accepts it because they are afraid. They conscientiously sacrifice their integrity by pandering to the weak men and angry women of the Left. The will lie by saying republicans are banning books when books in school have been banned forever. The Right doesn't want 6-10 year olds being taught (or having access to) about oral sex in school. That shouldn't be a democrat or republican thing but it is. Generally speaking. You can deny it all ya want but denying it won't change the reality. Neither will using your go to cliche of Fox News.

As soon as you say GENERALLY, you can throw facts out the window. You are trying to generalize something that can't be generalized. What are you basing your generalization on? FOX? CNN? Where are you getting your generalizations? You don't even live in the US, so how would you know who has family values and where? And who defines family values. I know A LOT of people. I've name dropped a lot of people through the years. I know republicans, democrats, independents what have you. I can tell you that political party has ZERO to do with people's morals and values. I know a lot of good people but there's also a lot of fukked up people with stinking thinking in this country too. This country is full of people with mental illnesses. Now that's being general.

Where are you getting that Dems/Left people accept gay people parading sexually in front of their kids? Both parties have people with varying opinions. Some don't care about sex education, when it should be taught, etc., but others do. The local community normally decides those issues. Why are you associating gay people with parading in front of young kids or being pedophiles. Most gay people do not do that. You are taking a VERY small percentage of the population doing weird shit and assuming Dems agree with it. Have you talked to democrats? Do you really think ALL democrats want young kids chopping off their dicks? Come on man. That is not a left agenda. But let's talk about what to do about it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

There are countless examples. Its like some kind of cult they are in. I probably played with my sister's dolls when I was 3 but my parents never say that as a sign that I might be a girl. I read that children who identify as trans has increased 3X just in the last few years.
Non-binary parent says that her son was transgender “starting at the age of 2”<br><br>“When she was 4.5 she went to the gender clinic in Chicago. The doctor sat down, said: are you a girl? And she said yup. He said: ok, from now on you’re a girl.”

And take this woman as example. You think her baby really let her know they were trans months old? They raised their child to be trans like it’s a science project. You don’t think this is child abuse?

This is sick. Saying an 18 month old knows he&#39;s Trans. These parents should be locked up. They have ruined that child
I always bring the receipts

But you want to force these crazy ass parents to have more kids because you want to make abortion illegal.

Whether you like it or not, America is a free country and people, even dumb people can have kids. THERE IS NOTHING YOU AND I CAN DO FOR A CHILD RAISED BY A DUMB ASS PARENT. If your parents were trans, maybe you would be trans and we wouldn't be having this discussion. The plain truth is that this country allows parents to do what they see fit for their kids. Parents have born and raised kids to be demented serial killers, racist white nationalist, hardened criminals, sexually deviant, etc. I've seen parents do the stupidest shit with their kids. Giving 5 year olds guns to shoot, train pitbulls to attack, swim with sharks. Hell, millions of kids don't know where their next meal will come from or where they will sleep tonight. Talk about child abuse.

I do not agree with parents mixing their kids genders up but guess what. THEY AIN'T MY KIDS. And there is nothing you can do about it. Thank God, your parents weren't fukked up. This country is full of dumb fukks, many are mentally ill and you want them to not abort their soon to be dumb fukk babies?

[Mac4Lyfe]

I could get behind that.
The problem is that not everyone is fit to be parents. That is life. Pretending otherwise is silly. There lies the problem.

If you locked up every bad parent, where are you going to house the criminals? Bad parents probably outnumber the bad guys 100,000 to 1.

I'd estimate at least 10-20% of the parents aren't fit. Maybe more. The ones wanting to cut off their kids dick is a very low percentage. What about all the others? What is the solution? The only I can think of is a strong public school system where hopefully those kids can be surrounded by good examples of others. They are not going to get it at home.

[khicks26]

But you want to force these crazy ass parents to have more kids because you want to make abortion illegal.

Whether you like it or not, America is a free country and people, even dumb people can have kids. THERE IS NOTHING YOU AND I CAN DO FOR A CHILD RAISED BY A DUMB ASS PARENT. If your parents were trans, maybe you would be trans and we wouldn't be having this discussion. The plain truth is that this country allows parents to do what they see fit for their kids. Parents have born and raised kids to be demented serial killers, racist white nationalist, hardened criminals, sexually deviant, etc. I've seen parents do the stupidest shit with their kids. Giving 5 year olds guns to shoot, train pitbulls to attack, swim with sharks. Hell, millions of kids don't know where their next meal will come from or where they will sleep tonight. Talk about child abuse.

I do not agree with parents mixing their kids genders up but guess what. THEY AIN'T MY KIDS. And there is nothing you can do about it. Thank God, your parents weren't fukked up. This country is full of dumb fukks, many are mentally ill and you want them to not abort their soon to be dumb fukk babies?

Dude, Dwight and right wingers in general. The hypocrisy is the point. You can't debate that.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Should be arrested for child abuse.Many on the forum will say as an infant, the child knew it was trans

There's not enough jail cells. The court system is totally backed up as is. It is almost impossible to take a parent to court. Even when it's clear abuse.

I didn't know what I wanted to do as a child BUT you never know? Maybe someone always knew they would be a professional athlete or a violinist, or a Wall Street trader? Maybe someone for as long as they could remember knew they were trans, gay, what have you. I have no clue how, what people think, so I can't tell someone that they are wrong for feeling the way they do about themselves. I'm certainly not going to argue with them.

[DwightShrute]

As soon as you say GENERALLY, you can throw facts out the window. You are trying to generalize something that can't be generalized. What are you basing your generalization on? FOX? CNN? Where are you getting your generalizations? You don't even live in the US, so how would you know who has family values and where? And who defines family values. I know A LOT of people. I've name dropped a lot of people through the years. I know republicans, democrats, independents what have you. I can tell you that political party has ZERO to do with people's morals and values. I know a lot of good people but there's also a lot of fukked up people with stinking thinking in this country too. This country is full of people with mental illnesses. Now that's being general.

Where are you getting that Dems/Left people accept gay people parading sexually in front of their kids? Both parties have people with varying opinions. Some don't care about sex education, when it should be taught, etc., but others do. The local community normally decides those issues. Why are you associating gay people with parading in front of young kids or being pedophiles. Most gay people do not do that. You are taking a VERY small percentage of the population doing weird shit and assuming Dems agree with it. Have you talked to democrats? Do you really think ALL democrats want young kids chopping off their dicks? Come on man. That is not a left agenda. But let's talk about what to do about it.

generally speaking, most radicals are on the Left. You can pretend otherwise but its true. That isn't just in America. Its worldwide. It a mental disorder generally speaking. People suffering from this disorder don't even know they it and will deny it. Of course, there are perfectly normal liberals and there radicals on the Right.

Stereotypes exist for a reason. Think about it. And just because you can give examples of something that doesn't fit the stereotype, doesn't make it untrue. Stomping your feet or dropping names of people you know or have met won't change reality.

I can give dozens of examples of this but I will leave it at just one. One you've heard before but immediately dismiss because of your denial of observable reality.

BLM are a domestic racist terrorist group. Thousands of angry women and weak men (almost all liberals) rioted all across the country months before J6. 575 riots all across the US. They killed people, injured thousands including hundreds of police, burned buildings to the ground, destroyed businesses, destroyed entire blocks, looted, walked up to people demanding they bow down to them, blocked freeways, over 2 billion in damage, and would try and kill anyone wearing a red Maga hat all in the name of a career criminal. The MSM cheered them on. The NBA painted this terrorist organization's name on their basketball courts. BLM did nothing for Black people with the millions they raised. They instead, took it and bought mansions while liberals, democrats, Kamala, celebrities raised bail money for these rioters.


Now lets do conservatives. A few idiots rioted on J6. Hardly any damage. No one was killed except a protestor who was shot in the neck by a Capitol cop. Congress was able to conduct their business later that day.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I am glad I did not see the beginning of the Olympics and what apparently went on with that B.S. If I had tuned in to watch the ceremonies, I sure as hell didn't tune in to see what was shown.

What happened at the Olympics?

[Mac4Lyfe]

str, good post and good points throughout.

I'd love it if we all could be reasonable and find common ground but that seems like a pipe dream in the current climate.

I agree, in time it will work itself out but I do not see that happening anytime soon...

As you said, there is not much fun being agreeable as it is to try to educate, bash or bury the opposition.

We live in some crazy and polarizing times, hopefully we see positive change for all in my lifetime.

There's a lot more people in the middle/Center. It just the far left and right have the biggest mouths.

I've always said we need a 3rd party. The middle party, the "we just make fukking sense" party.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I agree with this. I don't understand why a LGBTQ have to tell me they are. I really don't care. I don't tell people I'm heterosexual. Why does a trans person have to tell me they're trans? I don't tell people I'm a man. We don't need to proclaim our sexual preference gender, etc. Just live your life but don't throw it in my face. Keep most shit in the privacy of your own home.

[b1slickguy]

There's a lot more people in the middle/Center. It just the far left and right have the biggest mouths.

I've always said we need a 3rd party. The middle party, the "we just make fukking sense" party.

We have one this election cycle after the democrats got scared and kicked RFK out of all proceedings as a candidate.