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  • OldBill
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    • 11-02-21
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    #1
    Everyone Does Better When the President’s a Democrat
    since way back after WWII it's proven

    The presentation compares how the economy has performed by various measures under Democratic and Republican administrations, going back to 1989. That means that it fairly compares 16 years of Democratic presidencies (Clinton and Obama) to 16 (almost) years of Republican presidencies (Bush, Bush, and Trump). It uses official government numbers, from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and so forth. There’s no cooking of any numbers. It’s just the facts.



    And the facts are that it’s not even close. The economy does better—far better—when we have Democratic presidents. In terms of job creation, median income, health care, and yep, even the stock market, the economy does better—the American people do better—under Democratic presidents. By a mile.

    The deck consists of about 15 slides, but I’ll walk you through just six so you get the idea. Let’s start with job creation under each president:


    So you see that Clinton is the king here, but Obama is a respectable second. Both Bushes have anemic numbers, and Trump’s are a disaster.




    As you can see, it’s devastatingly lopsided. And even if you erase the pandemic-related job losses and give Trump his pre-virus 6.9 million, it would still be Democrats 34 million, Republican 11 million.



    Republicans reading this may be thinking, “How convenient, he left out Reagan.” OK. Let’s put him in. In fact, let’s go back to 1961. Bill Clinton did this, you might recall, in his speech to the Democratic convention in Charlotte in 2012, which to me is the greatest convention speech of all time. He said:



    “You see, we [Democrats] believe that ‘we’re all in this together’ is a far better philosophy than ‘you’re on your own.’ It is. So who’s right? Well, since 1961, for 52 years now, the Republicans have held the White House 28 years, the Democrats, 24. In those 52 years, our private economy has produced 66 million private sector jobs. So what’s the job score? Republicans, 24 million; Democrats, 42 (million).”

    By the end of Obama’s second term, when it was 28 years apiece, 9 million new jobs had been created, so the score was 51 million to 24 million. More than double. Indeed, all this goes back even farther than 1961. Political scientist Larry Bartels showed in his 2012 book Unequal Democracythat since World War II, by a range of measures, the economy has done better under Democrats—overall, much, much better.




    There goes that theory. Clinton of course erased the deficit and gave us a surplus, which Dubya wiped out with two big tax cuts. Obama inherited a disaster from him but lowered the deficit over time, and Trump was already making the deficit worse before the virus hit because of his tax cut.

    Well, OK then, says our conservative—the stock market! We’re the party of Wall Street! Surely the Dow does better when we’re in charge. Um… Slide 4:






    As you can see, up impressively under Obama and (especially) Clinton, up somewhat under Trump, and actually down under both Bushes (these are inflation-adjusted amounts, by the way).

    Finally, let’s take a quick look at health care. This is one area in which a majority of people might expect that Democrats have delivered better than Republicans. That majority would be correct:



    The rate of non-elderly uninsured has increased under all three GOP presidents but decreased under the Democrats, quite spectacularly under Obama.

    There’s more in the full presentation. The unemployment rate? Down under Clinton and Obama, up under the Republicans (here, too, Trump would blame the virus, but as I argued above, part of the blame is his).

    Counting the jobs created while a person is president is as close as we can get. And I’d argue that a pattern that goes back to 1988—or 1961, or 1945—surely tells us something. I can guarantee you that if the numbers were reversed, Republicans would be arguing that the methodology was sound.

    So it’s a slam dunk. But here’s the question: Why doesn’t America know this? Why haven’t the Democratic Party and their big donors slapped some of these numbers on at least one billboard in every county in America? Why did one Democrat discuss this once in a major speech instead of every Democrat discussing it in every speech?

    see full article here https://www.thedailybeast.com/everyo...rat?ref=scroll

    GOD I loved Clinton playing a sax gettiing a BJ and still our country prospered

    i fear the 2024 election i know the stupid public will put some j o republican in office and bye bye all the increases the elderly got under Biden even tho it aint thousands in ssi it's like an extra $1000 a year or more
  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 103114

    #2
    LOL
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    • OldBill
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-02-21
      • 6416

      #3
      U.S. economic performance under Democratic and Republican presidents

      Historically, the United States economy has performed better on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents since World War II. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has fallen on average under Democratic presidents, while it has risen on average under Republican presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents.[1][2]

      Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.[3]


      Job creation refers to the number of net jobs added, which is reported monthly by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.[4] Journalist Glenn Kessler of The Washington Post summarized the total job creation by president. For the 13 presidents beginning with Truman, total job creation was about 70.5 million for the 7 Democratic presidents and 29.1 million for the 6 Republican presidents. The Democratic presidents were in office for a total of 429 months, with 164,000 jobs per month added on average, while the Republicans were in office for 475 months, with a 61,000 jobs added per month average. This monthly average rate was 2.4 times faster under Democratic presidents.[



      I cant paste the full article showing charts so u can see it all here



      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._e...can_presidents
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      • Slurry Pumper
        SBR MVP
        • 06-18-18
        • 2811

        #4
        You almost make me feel better about the world going to shyt lately. How come your charts don't pick up a greater number of Presidents? Say like the ones from our last stagflationary period.
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        • OldBill
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-02-21
          • 6416

          #5
          Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
          You almost make me feel better about the world going to shyt lately. How come your charts don't pick up a greater number of Presidents? Say like the ones from our last stagflationary period.
          because that's all they show sorry what periods do you want or years i'll search for them specifically
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          • BrickJames
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            • 05-05-11
            • 9749

            #6
            Democrats are some lying scumbags
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            • TheMoneyShot
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-14-07
              • 28672

              #7
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              LOL
              He pulls this sh## from Biden's Book. Bill and Biden are mentally challenged. Not full blown retard. But close.
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              • Roscoe_Word
                SBR MVP
                • 02-28-12
                • 3999

                #8
                Not recently, brother.............
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 103114

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                  He pulls this sh## from Biden's Book. Bill and Biden are mentally challenged. Not full blown retard. But close.
                  Lefties post these things because they are simpletons and they aren’t able to understand how the senate and congress were works. They are those people who are interviewed on the streets and asked questions like “who fought in the civil war?” They reply “England and Germany “.
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                  • Auto Donk
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-03-13
                    • 43558

                    #10
                    fukk joe biden.......


                    fukk him like he fukked his daughter ashley in the shower before she even had pubes......

                    #incestuous pedophile

                    #rapeTaraReade
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                    • Four33
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-13-19
                      • 437

                      #11
                      Lol not currently man
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                      • 209 Life
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-15-18
                        • 3146

                        #12
                        Fukk bill speak for yourself idiot
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                        • firstclass
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-10-08
                          • 2652

                          #13
                          Gotta be a troll nobody can be this fkn stupid ,no way ........
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                          • turbobets
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-13-06
                            • 999

                            #14
                            Unemployment rate was at 50 year low under Trump but then covid. So there is that. Biden hasn't created any jobs, they are all recovered pre-covid jobs. Clinton had a hell of a run, "the end of welfare as we know it". H.W. Bush, "read my lips no new taxes" LOL.
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                            • vitterd
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-14-17
                              • 58460

                              #15
                              It’s always been true. Rescumlicans are terrible
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                              • guitarjosh
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                                • 12-25-07
                                • 5786

                                #16
                                If you think the recessions that began under a republican president less than a year after a democrat left are the fault of the republican, but give full credit to the economy of 2019 to Obama, you're what's wrong with this country.

                                This is a Daily Beast article, very left wing and in no way credible. If you want to talk economics but leave out the Fed's impact, you're either ignorant of economics or dishonest. In the case of the Daily Beast, it's both.

                                This graph shows interest rates as the blue line. The shaded areas are recessions. The red lines are to help you find the pattern if you're on the left.

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                                • goduke
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-17-10
                                  • 11580

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                  Lefties post these things because they are simpletons and they aren’t able to understand how the senate and congress were works. They are those people who are interviewed on the streets and asked questions like “who fought in the civil war?” They reply “England and Germany “.
                                  Dude you post memes that have no factual data
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103114

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by goduke
                                    Dude you post memes that have no factual data
                                    Dude you make posts that have no factual data

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                                    • OldBill
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-02-21
                                      • 6416

                                      #19
                                      National Republican Senatorial Committee funds declined to just $28.4 million by the end of June. (Photo: Manuel Augusto Moreno via Getty Images)

                                      A number of Republican strategists and consultants are growing increasingly dismayed about millions of dollars vanishing at the National Republican Senatorial Committee — just when the funds are needed most, The Washington Post reported Friday.

                                      Cash at the national campaign fund is dwindling as candidates head into the final stretch of Senate races across the U.S.
                                      “If they were a corporation, the CEO would be fired,” a national Republican consultant working on Senate races told the newspaper, referring to the committee.

                                      “There needs to be an audit or investigation because we’re not gonna take the Senate now and this money has been squandered,” added the consultant, who spoke to the outlet on condition of anonymity. “It’s a rip-off.”


                                      Florida Sen. Rick Scott, who chairs the NRSC, has been attacked by Republicans for featuring himself in ads and releasing a policy agenda that caused trouble for the GOP, leading to quips that “NRSC” stands for “National Rick Scott Committee.

                                      NRSC funds had reportedly reached $173 million this election cycle but were already down to $28.4 million by the end of June.

                                      The committee spent more than $12 million on AMX credit cardpayments with an unclear purpose, along with $13 million for consultants and $9 million on debt payments, the Post said.

                                      Now, a number of Republican candidates are struggling to raise money ahead of the general elections in November.
                                      “It’s surprising and says a lot about the Republican brand that their candidates have struggled to raise money,” J.B. Poersch, the president of the Democratic-allied Senate Majority PAC, told the Post.

                                      “With extreme candidates and extreme positions, maybe Republican donors are finding these candidates are out of step with where they are,” he said. “Maybe voters are feeling the same way.”

                                      thats $144,600,000.00 gone away robbed from thier own pockets for nov.

                                      fawkkkk you righties aint taking my money from me you fawkinnng thieves

                                      ya'll can go suk a donkey d i cck or rather the huge elephant C ****
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                                      • OldBill
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-02-21
                                        • 6416

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BrickJames
                                        Democrats are some lying scumbags

                                        oooo and you n the republicans don't lie !
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83686

                                          #21
                                          This thread is fake news! We were so much better off under Trump then now under Biden!

                                          Today we have record high inflation, wars and more potential wars brewing, high gas prices, open borders, rising crime, etc.! .
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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 103114

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by OldBill
                                            oooo and you n the republicans don't lie !
                                            everyone lies. you included.
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                                            • OldBill
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-02-21
                                              • 6416

                                              #23
                                              ooooooyeah jibby under trump this is what trump supported bt w

                                              he even spoke about what hitler said using hitlers words at his fake rallies
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                                              • DwightShrute
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-17-09
                                                • 103114

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by OldBill
                                                ooooooyeah jibby under trump this is what trump supported bt w

                                                he even spoke about what hitler said using hitlers words at his fake rallies
                                                why do you lie?
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83686

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by OldBill
                                                  ooooooyeah jibby under trump this is what trump supported bt w

                                                  he even spoke about what hitler said using hitlers words at his fake rallies
                                                  Trump has a Jewish son in law, grand kids are also Jewish and he fully supported and helped Israel like never before with other Presidents.

                                                  Billy you are totally lost and have no idea what is what when talking about Trump?

                                                  Turn off MNSBC and CNN hate Trump networks for once..
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 103114

                                                    #26
                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the 711 on w 3rd off the corner of 6th Ave in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NYC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#N YC</a> , store workers say they get robbed at least 4 times a day even assaulted at times. They had to lock their refrigerators due to the theft. They called the <a href="https://twitter.com/NYPD6Pct?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NYPD6Pct</a> but they were unable to help due to the low cost of items <a href="https://t.co/nwwNTyY0w2">pic.twitter.com/nwwNTyY0w2</a></p>&mdash; Viral News NY (@ViralNewsNYC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ViralNewsNYC/status/1561190093242654721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                    • Roscoe_Word
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-28-12
                                                      • 3999

                                                      #27
                                                      Brother Bill;

                                                      No one is doin better, in any facet of life, now as compared to when your fixation was in office........
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                                                      • OldBill
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-02-21
                                                        • 6416

                                                        #28
                                                        Everyone around him always try to back up Trumps statements, like “this is what he meant”, “this is what he was trying to say”, “this is what he is trying to point out.” Lies, enabling, cheating, stealing, claims of being the best at EVERYTHING!!!!


                                                        I bet he was one of those kids who threw fits if you didn’t play what he wanted and the way he wanted or he’d go cry and tell him mama. Ya know what I mean? Just sad.
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