COVID-19 - All Discussion Here 🦠

[rkelly110]

Get your shots girlies!

[chico2663]

Dwight you can’t get my goat anymore. I guess you will just have to remember the time you and faderboy spent at the ripcord.

[Demonata]

[JIBBBY]

Obey and get the jab or get fined. Government Control in full effect now!!!

[KVB]

Why are so many in denial about hospital capacity? WTF?

It's different in different areas, there hasn't been a peak in many areas and the expected peak means the ICU is overflowing.

Why is there so much denial about what who makes up these patients, the worst cases, when it comes to being vaccinated?

I know, first and second hand, as a verfiiable fact of more than one hospital system that is in trouble in more than half of their sites. Guy walks into the hospital with a heart attack and all they can do is got on the phone to see if another hospital has room.

Why? Because the ICUs are full. Who's in them? Primarily COVID patients, and primarily unvaccinated COVID patients.

Once again hospitals are postponing surgeries and procedures, the elective ones, already, and in some spots if you need emergency surgery or an ICU, then you are screwed.

So far we have seen hospitals in all of these states enact a policy to postpone scheduled procedures over the last month or so...

Bama, Arky, Calif, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Lousiana, Miss, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, NC, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, SC, Tenn, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Washington.

That sucks. I had procedures delayed early last year and while they weren't exactly life threatening emergencies, I didn't schedule radio frequency ablation on 5 levels on both sides of my neck for the hell of it and those were delayed for more than a year.

Whoever you are, whatever "side" you take because you just have to be on some "side", shit, take whatever side you want in this whole debate, but don't be a dick and try to claim the hospital systems aren't feeling the effects of COVID.

I know first hand that they are, but there is so much denial in these threads.

Some of you still think there is no virus and that it has never been isolated...common man, why would anyone believe that? Public research institutions have been researching this for awhile now.

For fuksake, they grow cultures to make it available to study.

Can't believe people actually deny that too.

Why?????? Is it pure ignorance? Attempts to troll? Do you guys not understand that just because your local hospital isn't over run that others can't say the same thing?

For some the idea of war or pandemic is so scary that they just retreat to automatic denial, just outright claim everything is a lie and it doesn't even exist.

But statistically that should be a very low number with that mental health issue, it's tough to believe there can be so many at SBR.

Which leaves it up to ignorance and trolling.

[JIBBBY]

Can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab is up next.

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-says-support-vaccine-mandate-103326306.html

[KVB]

Can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab is up next.

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-says-su...103326306.html

Did you read article?

Don Beyer from VA actually introduced legislation last week on this.

From your link Jibbs...

...Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.) last week introduced new legislation that would require travelers to be fully vaccinated against the virus, or have a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of travel...

Jibbs why do you say you can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab when you don't need to get the jab, you just need a negative test?

As far as who pays for that test, that's another debate and I do have issues with who must carry the burden in these workplaces and for these requirements.

Let's not pretend like there isn't an option...a negative test...in these proposals.

[chico2663]

Can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab is up next.

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-says-su...103326306.html

My stepbrother makes 200 thousand a year. Only really works 4 months a yr. Bought 95 acres in ky and plans to go on the lamb. No shot for that hillbilly. Wtf

[DwightShrute]

Why are so many in denial about hospital capacity? WTF?

It's different in different areas, there hasn't been a peak in many areas and the expected peak means the ICU is overflowing.

Why is there so much denial about what who makes up these patients, the worst cases, when it comes to being vaccinated?

I know, first and second hand, as a verfiiable fact of more than one hospital system that is in trouble in more than half of their sites. Guy walks into the hospital with a heart attack and all they can do is got on the phone to see if another hospital has room.

Why? Because the ICUs are full. Who's in them? Primarily COVID patients, and primarily unvaccinated COVID patients.

Once again hospitals are postponing surgeries and procedures, the elective ones, already, and in some spots if you need emergency surgery or an ICU, then you are screwed.

So far we have seen hospitals in all of these states enact a policy to postpone scheduled procedures over the last month or so...

Bama, Arky, Calif, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Lousiana, Miss, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, NC, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, SC, Tenn, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Washington.

That sucks. I had procedures delayed early last year and while they weren't exactly life threatening emergencies, I didn't schedule radio frequency ablation on 5 levels on both sides of my neck for the hell of it and those were delayed for more than a year.

Whoever you are, whatever "side" you take because you just have to be on some "side", shit, take whatever side you want in this whole debate, but don't be a dick and try to claim the hospital systems aren't feeling the effects of COVID.

I know first hand that they are, but there is so much denial in these threads.

Some of you still think there is no virus and that it has never been isolated...common man, why would anyone believe that? Public research institutions have been researching this for awhile now.

For fuksake, they grow cultures to make it available to study.

Can't believe people actually deny that too.

Why?????? Is it pure ignorance? Attempts to troll? Do you guys not understand that just because your local hospital isn't over run that others can't say the same thing?

For some the idea of war or pandemic is so scary that they just retreat to automatic denial, just outright claim everything is a lie and it doesn't even exist.

But statistically that should be a very low number with that mental health issue, it's tough to believe there can be so many at SBR.

Which leaves it up to ignorance and trolling.

why not educate yourself a little more?

FF to 36:08 for some context and facts. If you dare.

[JIBBBY]

Did you read article?

Don Beyer from VA actually introduced legislation last week on this.

From your link Jibbs...



Jibbs why do you say you can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab when you don't need to get the jab, you just need a negative test?

As far as who pays for that test, that's another debate and I do have issues with who must carry the burden in these workplaces and for these requirements.

Let's not pretend like there isn't an option...a negative test...in these proposals.

I said that's coming next. Not happening right now. Biden Administration and Fauci pushing for it though.

[DwightShrute]

Can't board a flight anymore unless you get the jab is up next.

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-says-su...103326306.html

that's is what they want. Even the fake news media suggested vaccine passports for anyone flying, taking a train or taking a bus after Biden's embarrassing vaccine mandate speech last week for businesses with 100 people or more. The post office doesn't have to. Businesses with 99 people don't have to. Hmmm.

Does the virus only affect businesses with 100 or more people and not the postal workers? Is that based on science?

[Demonata]

Hazmat suits will be next.

[The Kraken]

And again I reiterate ..

That's the medical Field's fault.

People should stop praising them.

Ok we'll give them a slight pass on the first Wave of covid (even though they are supposed to be 100% prepared for any pandemic).

But after the calm before the storm being the 2nd wave, they got comfortable & complacent, instead of learning that they need to do everything necessary to be ready if it got bad again.

And it did.

They dropped the effing ball

How so?

If you already wrote it out, let me know where and I'll check it out. I didn't see your other post

[The Kraken]

Hospitals do not have infinite resources. We're short on IVU beds, we're short on ICU nurses, we're short on ventilators, ecmo machines, perfusionists, balloon pumps, Impellas, etc.... There is a also a breakdown in the supply chain of those machines so we can't get more even tho we want em.

[DwightShrute]

bravo

[DwightShrute]

Hospitals do not have infinite resources. We're short on IVU beds, we're short on ICU nurses, we're short on ventilators, ecmo machines, perfusionists, balloon pumps, Impellas, etc.... There is a also a breakdown in the supply chain of those machines so we can't get more even tho we want em.

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[JIBBBY]

that's is what they want. Even the fake news media suggested vaccine passports for anyone flying, taking a train or taking a bus after Biden's embarrassing vaccine mandate speech last week for businesses with 100 people or more. The post office doesn't have to. Businesses with 99 people don't have to. Hmmm.

Does the virus only affect businesses with 100 or more people and not the postal workers? Is that based on science?

Biden clown show continues. Democratic policies never makes much sense anymore. Throw common sense out the window when Biden tries to implement anything.

Just look at our open border and how Democrats can care less who is coming in with Covid. 100,000's of illegal immigrants are all not vaccinated or tested as they cross and come in monthly.

[Mac4Lyfe]

You know why we have to have vaccine mandates?? To protect dumb asses against themselves like demon and this couple. This couple just left 5 kids orphans. Who the hell do you think have to pay for them because of these idiots. They say they loved their kids but were not vaxxed?? So they end up leaving the kids broke, homeless and parentless.



Inland Empire father of 5 dies of COVID-19 just weeks after wife: Family

An Inland Empire family is mourning the loss of two parents who died of COVID-19 just weeks apart, leaving behind five children, family members said Friday.
Daniel Macias, a 39-year-old middle school teacher, was diagnosed with COVID-19 soon after his wife, Davy Macias, a 37-year-old San Bernardino County nurse who had recently given birth to their fifth child before dying from COVID-19 late last month.
The couple leaves behind their newborn daughter and four other children, ages 7, 5, 3 and 2. The children are being cared for by their grandparents, family members said.


“I don’t know anyone who loved their kids as much as they did, and they made sure they told them every day,” Terri Serey, Daniel’s sister-in-law said. “I want them to be aware of how much they’re loved. And I want them to know how much their parents loved them.”
Daniel was diagnosed not long after his wife, and was hospitalized soon after, according to family members.
His wife, Davy, was a labor and delivery nurse at Kaiser Permanente in the city of Fontana. She had worked throughout the pandemic until she was hospitalized with the coronavirus while 7 months pregnant, family members said.
Both of them were intubated and treated in a hospital intensive care unit “due to the Delta variant,” according to a GoFundMe page started by Davy’s siblings.
The couple tested positive for COVID-19 after having traveled to the beach and a water park with their children, Davy’s brother, Vong Serey, told KTLA.


Around the time Davy was 34 weeks pregnant, six days after she was hospitalized, the doctor delivered the baby about six weeks early, Serey said.
Davy never got the chance to meet her newborn daughter, according to the GoFundMe page.
“It’s absolutely heartbreaking. We were really pulling for Daniel after Davy died. We wanted him to wake up and name his baby girl,” Terri said.
Before being intubated, Daniel encouraged his family to get vaccinated against COVID-19 to avoid his situation, Vong said.
“COVID doesn’t play by the rules. It doesn’t matter — you’re young, old — it can hit anybody at this point,” Vong said.
He encouraged people not to wait to take the vaccine, noting that his family’s ordeal changed his mind about getting vaccinated.
“I did change my mind. When it hits this close to home, it does, it really affects you. It opens your eyes,” Vong said.
Family members started the GoFundMe account to help the couple’s children with food, clothing and other expenses. As of Friday evening, the page had raised over $160,000.
“We’ll dry our tears and we will smile. And we will try to make everything as calm as possible, but there really is no way to fix this,” Terri said.

[KVB]

why not educate yourself a little more?

FF to 36:08 for some context and facts. If you dare.

Is there a point here?

You are either denying that COVID has an effect on hospitals, or not.

You're either denying that COVID exists at all, or you are not.

That's what my post is about.

Nothing more.

[Hman]

Hospitals do not have infinite resources. We're short on IVU beds, we're short on ICU nurses, we're short on ventilators, ecmo machines, perfusionists, balloon pumps, Impellas, etc.... There is a also a breakdown in the supply chain of those machines so we can't get more even tho we want em.

They request them and get then AFTER THE FACT

The first time around when they ran out of room, all should have built additions to their facilities.

Of course doing it in hopes they would never be needed or used, but you would still be responsibly prepared.

I have and ex and 2 nieces who are RN's and they agree completely.

[KVB]

Hospitals do not have infinite resources. We're short on IVU beds, we're short on ICU nurses, we're short on ventilators, ecmo machines, perfusionists, balloon pumps, Impellas, etc.... There is a also a breakdown in the supply chain of those machines so we can't get more even tho we want em.

It's very real, despite some who deny it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

These women should be in jail for murder... You antiabortion folks should be pissed that these women are purposely aborting these babies with their negligence.

Two unborn babies die after their unvaccinated moms got COVID, Texas officials say

Two unborn babies died after their unvaccinated mother’s contracted COVID-19, Texas health officials reported.


The women were 29 and 23 weeks along in their pregnancies, respectively, the Corpus Christi - Nueces County Public Health District announced Friday.


The deaths of their unborn children are considered to be “COVID-19 related fetal demise during pregnancy,” the health district said in a news release.


In one of the cases, health officials reported the pregnant female was in her twenties when she lost her baby at 29 weeks. She was diagnosed with the coronavirus disease and was symptomatic. Her symptoms included nausea, vomiting, fever and congestion. She was living with a family member who had also tested positive for COVID-19.


In the second case, the pregnant woman was 23 weeks along when she contracted the disease, officials said. Her age was not released.


Earlier this summer, a Texas mom lost her unborn twins to COVID in the Waco-McLennan County Public Health District, McClatchy News previously reported.


In July, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine recommend that anyone pregnant should receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

[DwightShrute]

Is there a point here?

You are either denying that COVID has an effect on hospitals, or not.

You're either denying that COVID exists at all, or you are not.

That's what my post is about.

Nothing more.

if you watched it, then you shouldn't be asking me that. It's pretty clear. I thought you should see it is all.

[KVB]

They request them and get then AFTER THE FACT

The first time around when they ran out of room, all should have added built additions to their facilities.

Of course doing it in hopes they would never be needed or used, but you would still he responsibly prepared.

I have and ex and 2 nieces who are RN's and they agree completely.

Or take measures pharmaceutically to prevent severe illness and hospitalization. Or both.

It sounds like you are saying, during a worldwide pandemic, that your answer is jsut ot build more facilities.

Fortunately, not only have we seen field hospitals open, even when some ended up not being used, but we have also seen a campaign to induce anitbodies in the public without having to infect people with the virus.

Both have been methods in play.

[KVB]

if you watched it, then you shouldn't be asking me that. It's pretty clear. I thought you should see it is all.

I've seen the video.

But it's not relevant to what I'm saying, not at all.

To repeat...

You are either denying that COVID has an effect on hospitals, or not.

You're either denying that COVID exists at all, or you are not.

That's what my post is about.

Nothing more.

Everything I posted stands alone, it doesn't need a youtube video as an answer.

There are serious deniers in this thread, denying real life facts.

I just wonder whether it's solely to be political, to troll, out of ignorance, or those more rare instances of people in so much shock that they are unable to process the reality.

It's pretty simple Dwight, Louder with Crowder doesn't make a difference. I'm not arguing any of that video, but if you say there aren't deniers of reality here at SBR, you are in denial yourself.

Take a breath and try process what I'm saying. I'm not taking a side here. Not sure you understand that.

[Hman]

Or take measures pharmaceutically to prevent severe illness and hospitalization. Or both.

It sounds like you are saying, during a worldwide pandemic, that your answer is jsut ot build more facilities.

Fortunately, not only have we seen field hospitals open, even when some ended up not being used, but we have also seen a campaign to induce anitbodies in the public without having to infect people with the virus.

Both have been methods in play.

What I do know is that all hospitals are required to complete training in handling pandemics.

And as everyone can see, virtually none of them took it serious

I used TSA and 9-11 as an example.

Lackadaisical ppl who never expected anything like it would happen and not thorough with their jobs.

But TSA learned from it and hasn't let their guard down since, as anyone who's been to an airport knows

Can we say that with the medical field?

After wave 1 of covid virtually passed and things were settling down, they should have known & thought "Hey, we have to be prepared next time around if something horrible happens again"

But they didn't

They got comfortable again..

[DwightShrute]

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[Demonata]

These women should be in jail for murder... You antiabortion folks should be pissed that these women are purposely aborting these babies with their negligence.

Two unborn babies die after their unvaccinated moms got COVID, Texas officials say

Two unborn babies died after their unvaccinated mother’s contracted COVID-19, Texas health officials reported.


The women were 29 and 23 weeks along in their pregnancies, respectively, the Corpus Christi - Nueces County Public Health District announced Friday.


The deaths of their unborn children are considered to be “COVID-19 related fetal demise during pregnancy,” the health district said in a news release.


In one of the cases, health officials reported the pregnant female was in her twenties when she lost her baby at 29 weeks. She was diagnosed with the coronavirus disease and was symptomatic. Her symptoms included nausea, vomiting, fever and congestion. She was living with a family member who had also tested positive for COVID-19.


In the second case, the pregnant woman was 23 weeks along when she contracted the disease, officials said. Her age was not released.


Earlier this summer, a Texas mom lost her unborn twins to COVID in the Waco-McLennan County Public Health District, McClatchy News previously reported.


In July, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine recommend that anyone pregnant should receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

That article is misleading. Post the actual link.

[KVB]

What I do know is that all hospitals are required to complete training in handling pandemics.

And as everyone can see, virtually none of them took it serious

I used TSA and 9-11 as an example.

Lackadaisical ppl who never expected anything like it would happen and not thorough with their jobs.

But TSA learned from it and hasn't let their guard down since, as anyone who's been to an airport knows

Can we say that with the medical field?

After wave 1 of covid virtually passed and things were settling down, they should have known & thought "Hey, we have to be prepared next time around if something horrible happens again"

But they didn't

They got comfortable again..

I suppose you share the same frustration then, as I do, with those who say it doesn't exist or has no effect on hospitals and hospital system.

It's far better to analyze what went wrong, what they can do better, etc, like you are now than to just pretend it doesn't exist and deny any data about it or the medical communities response to it.

There are posters in here that will say your post is full of shit because hospitals have no COVID patients.

That just seems wrong on multiple levels.

[The Kraken]

They request them and get then AFTER THE FACT

The first time around when they ran out of room, all should have built additions to their facilities.

Of course doing it in hopes they would never be needed or used, but you would still be responsibly prepared.

I have and ex and 2 nieces who are RN's and they agree completely.

Request what after the fact???

Wr've been requesting more of those machines since day 1 of the pandemic and have received 0. And Im a Stanford. Every other hospital is also requesting more. Theres just not enough machines bc the supply chain broke down.

Theres a huge disconnect in how simply you think the solution is, and how in reality its nearly impossible.

Honestly, the beds are the easiest part of the puzzle. We can make it work. But if we dont have ICU nurses and resp therapists, it doesnt matter if we have a bed or not. And if we dont have those ecmo machines and perfusionists, it doesnt matter if we have nurses or beds.

And then we still have to service the community needs ie strokes, car accidents, heart surgeries, heart attacks, broken bones etc...

A patient that has heart surgery is home in 5 days. A patient on ecmo with covid is in that room maybe 3-4 months. There are not enough nurses, doctors, machines, beds to make this problem go away.

The only thing that will help is getting the vaccine.

[Demonata]

Too bad biden and the rest of the democrats keep allowing illegal immigrants with covid in to usa.

[DwightShrute]

I've seen the video.

But it's not relevant to what I'm saying, not at all.

To repeat...

You are either denying that COVID has an effect on hospitals, or not.

You're either denying that COVID exists at all, or you are not.

That's what my post is about.

Nothing more.

Everything I posted stands alone, it doesn't need a youtube video as an answer.

There are serious deniers in this thread, denying real life facts.

I just wonder whether it's solely to be political, to troll, out of ignorance, or those more rare instances of people in so much shock that they are unable to process the reality.

It's pretty simple Dwight, Louder with Crowder doesn't make a difference. I'm not arguing any of that video, but if you say there aren't deniers of reality here at SBR, you are in denial yourself.

Take a breath and try process what I'm saying. I'm not taking a side here. Not sure you understand that.

I provided you facts on the subject being discussed. Hospital beds, nurses and why hospitals do what they. Its factual, informative and on topic.

You act as if I posted something related to the mating rituals of female nursery web spiders. Which is interesting by itself, but has nothing to do with hospitals and covid. At least not that I am aware of.

[chico2663]

To bad we don't have the purge with right wing simpletons . covid wouldn't last as long.

[chico2663]

I provided you facts on the subject being discussed. Hospital beds, nurses and why hospitals do what they. Its factual, informative and on topic.

You act as if I posted something related to the mating rituals of female nursery web spiders. Which is interesting by itself, but has nothing to do with hospitals and covid. At least not that I am aware of.

Are the rest of your family anal drips such as yourself?

[DwightShrute]

Are the rest of your family anal drips such as yourself?