Did you really post a link of an article written ... BY TYLER DURDEN
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#282
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
yes even though most of the vaccines on the cycle are a total money grab
isn't it weird that vaccines are the #1 thing pushed by the media over the past year, and they are also the only product that you can't sue for damages on
if they are so safe and effective then why in the world do the manufacturers need immunity?
Probably for the same reason they gave the meat packers immunity. They did want people getting money out of them.
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11207
#283
COVID is not only killing the old and sick but it is also going to weed out the idiots.
I guess mostly Republicans will unnecessarily be added to the death toll as they seem to be anti vaxxers.
Sad.
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Unrivaled
SBR Hall of Famer
10-24-11
6685
#284
Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
COVID is not only killing the old and sick but it is also going to weed out the idiots.
I guess mostly Republicans will unnecessarily be added to the death toll as they seem to be anti vaxxers.
Sad.
I'm not an anti vaxxer at all, and have gotten vaccines before.
However, if you're healthy and aren't even hesitant to be injected with the most rushed vaccine in history, I just don't know what to say.
We don't know the potential long term side effects of the vaccine. With Covid, we know it is dangerous to elderly and obese so they should get it. If healthy then no reason to rush and get it.
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stealthyburrito
SBR Posting Legend
05-12-09
21562
#285
Did a clinic for county police department today. All the men and women in blue were beyond thankful and accommodating.
I’ll see them again in 3 weeks
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#286
Depends on your situation. If I was a middle aged teacher, I'd be getting the shot for sure. If I was a nurse, I would be getting it for sure. If I was a waiter/waitress, I'd be getting it for sure.
The reality is that most people that die from the vaccine would not have died from COVID and those that do die from COVID would not have died if they had taken the vaccine.
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48531
#287
Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
Depends on your situation. If I was a middle aged teacher, I'd be getting the shot for sure. If I was a nurse, I would be getting it for sure. If I was a waiter/waitress, I'd be getting it for sure.
The reality is that most people that die from the vaccine would not have died from COVID and those that do die from COVID would not have died if they had taken the vaccine.
Nobody is dying from the vaccine. The anti-vaxxers are trying to confuse people.
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Unrivaled
SBR Hall of Famer
10-24-11
6685
#288
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
Nobody is dying from the vaccine. The anti-vaxxers are trying to confuse people.
True but maybe the vaccine increases your risk of cancer 700% a few years from now. Maybe your risk of heart disease increases 500%.
Pretty scare considering if you're healthy and get Covid you most likely get no symptoms at all and probably never know you had it.
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#289
Originally posted by Unrivaled
True but maybe the vaccine increases your risk of cancer 700% a few years from now. Maybe your risk of heart disease increases 500%.
Pretty scare considering if you're healthy and get Covid you most likely get no symptoms at all and probably never know you had it.
My 92 year old neighbor is scared to death of this COVERT invisible enemy that has destroyed our world so conveniently. Even as scared as he is, he said he will "wait" to see how others respond to it. He was pushing for it in the beginning and all throughout. Now, he is hesitant.
He told me a story of when Polio was running around he was quarantined in his home for many weeks. Nobody was allowed in his house. He, of course, eventually got that vaccine. Polio was pretty serious. This COVID, how can anyone possibly suggest that it is comparable to Polio?
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#290
Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
COVID is not only killing the old and sick but it is also going to weed out the idiots.
I guess mostly Republicans will unnecessarily be added to the death toll as they seem to be anti vaxxers.
Sad.
I'm really confused by your statement. Aren't you pro-Science? Doesn't Science tell us that we have immune systems that we develop as children to fight off just about anything? Well, whatever immune system God gave me I will trust in it. Still have not worn my mask, and not sick. I'm not a registered Republican or Democrat, but I am a freedom of choice and freedom of religion in terms of vaccinations. People have a right to withdraw. Period. Again, this whole scrubbing everything down with bleach or whatever you use, so you never get a germ again in your life somehow, is the antithesis of Science. Science has always stated germs are GOOD for you, not BAD. You need them. Keep scrubbing down your surfaces and washing your hands 5,000 times per day so that when a germ does enter you, YOU will surely die. Unless, you plan to wear a hazmat suit the rest of your life?
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pablo222
SBR Hall of Famer
01-03-19
8858
#291
I would get the vaccine if it didn't have a microchip in it that will track my every move 24/7.
Pull the phone out of your pocket that you carry 24/7 and google it.
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11207
#292
Originally posted by Unrivaled
I'm not an anti vaxxer at all, and have gotten vaccines before.
However, if you're healthy and aren't even hesitant to be injected with the most rushed vaccine in history, I just don't know what to say.
We don't know the potential long term side effects of the vaccine. With Covid, we know it is dangerous to elderly and obese so they should get it. If healthy then no reason to rush and get it.
I agree with you. I'm also going to wait because my circumstances afford me that privilege.
IMHO: This is the best course of action if your situation dictates.
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11207
#293
Originally posted by hehfest
I'm really confused by your statement. Aren't you pro-Science? Doesn't Science tell us that we have immune systems that we develop as children to fight off just about anything? Well, whatever immune system God gave me I will trust in it. Still have not worn my mask, and not sick. I'm not a registered Republican or Democrat, but I am a freedom of choice and freedom of religion in terms of vaccinations. People have a right to withdraw. Period. Again, this whole scrubbing everything down with bleach or whatever you use, so you never get a germ again in your life somehow, is the antithesis of Science. Science has always stated germs are GOOD for you, not BAD. You need them. Keep scrubbing down your surfaces and washing your hands 5,000 times per day so that when a germ does enter you, YOU will surely die. Unless, you plan to wear a hazmat suit the rest of your life?
You have "the right" to do a lot of things that doesn't mean they are the best thing for your health. Base jumping, rock climbing etc..
Some germs you develop an immunity to from small doses and exposures like bacteria with little chance of death....so go play in the dirt..is a good thing to tell kids. Others germs, not so much especially viruses that mutate. Don't go get AIDS or play with Ebola.
Science has never stated germs are good for you, rather that exposure to some friendly germs help us. But we still have to limit being around germs that cause serious illnesses.
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#294
Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
You have "the right" to do a lot of things that doesn't mean they are the best thing for your health. Base jumping, rock climbing etc..
Some germs you develop an immunity to from small doses and exposures like bacteria with little chance of death....so go play in the dirt..is a good thing to tell kids. Others germs, not so much especially viruses that mutate. Don't go get AIDS or play with Ebola.
Science has never stated germs are good for you, rather that exposure to some friendly germs help us. But we still have to limit being around germs that cause serious illnesses.
why don't we need a vaccine for aids or ebola?
remember when dr fauci said that 20% of the us population would die if they didn't get an aids vaccine?
fauci = vaccine salesman
gates = vaccine salesman
media = most of their revenues from big pharma
even 40 years ago THEY KNEW
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#295
inventor of the covid test says fauci knows nothing about anything, and all he knows how to do is lie to a camera
"these guys have an agenda"
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11207
#296
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
inventor of the covid test says fauci knows nothing about anything, and all he knows how to do is lie to a camera
"these guys have an agenda"
Ya, this guy died of pneumonia....should have gotten the vaccine I guess?
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#297
milwaukee mike WON this thread... So typical , the Libs go ad hominem when the facts go against them
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11207
#298
Originally posted by Sam Odom
milwaukee mike WON this thread... So typical , the Libs go ad hominem when the facts go against them
Never knew COVID was a contest?
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#299
ever heard of winning a debate ?
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Roger T. Bannon
SBR Hall of Famer
06-28-18
5139
#300
Milwaukee Mike cannot lose the debate because if the vaccine works it would have gone away anyway.
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The Kraken
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-25-11
28918
#301
Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
Milwaukee Mike cannot lose the debate because if the vaccine works it would have gone away anyway.
Mike is smart and it's fair that he questions everything.
But beyond questions he doesn't add much to the conversation in terms of substance. Most of what he posts is taken out of context, misunderstood or misrepresented which is basically the MO of conspiracy theorists
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#302
Originally posted by The Kraken
Mike is smart and it's fair that he questions everything.
But beyond questions he doesn't add much to the conversation in terms of substance. Most of what he posts is taken out of context, misunderstood or misrepresented which is basically the MO of conspiracy theorists
how was kary mullis' interview taken out of context?
is this taken out of context? a microbiologist saying that taking the mrna vaccines will compromise your immune system to the point where when you are faced with the actual covid-19 (or the common cold, etc) you will be in bad shape.
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The Kraken
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12-25-11
28918
#303
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
how was kary mullis' interview taken out of context?
is this taken out of context? a microbiologist saying that taking the mrna vaccines will compromise your immune system to the point where when you are faced with the actual covid-19 (or the common cold, etc) you will be in bad shape.
First off, you can tell theres something not quite right with Kary Mullis. His speech pattern, body movements while talking, train of thoughts, etc, he’s all over the place.
Mullis says “I like humans but they cannot judge who the best and the brightest scientist are”
His implication is because most of us are not elite level scientists that we cannot judge who the elite level scientists are.
Yet he says “Fauci knows nothing about anything, nothing about Medicine”
Using Mullis’s logic against him, Mullis cannot judge whether Fauci is a brilliant physician that has a great knowledge of medicine because Mullis is not a doctor, he’s a scientist, theres a big difference. He makes many contradicting statements. But to say Fauci knows “nothing about anything” is incredulous and it actually diminishes his point, if he even has one.
As for Fauci not agreeing to a 1 on 1 debate with him at the UNC, why would Fauci agree to that? Its not beneficial in any way to debate someone in that forum.
Mullis has also made incorrect statements as to the role of PCR testing in identifying covid. PCR is a reliable test in identifying covid, 90-95% sensitive, but its prone to false negatives. Thats acceptable. We can live with false negatives because we know if a test is prone to false negatives and the patient exhibits signs or symptoms of covid, just treat them as positive even if they tsted negative, easy solution.
He can say he did not intend for the PCR to be used in identifying viral illnesses, but he cannot say that the pcr is not beneficial today in identifying viruses and testing large amounts of people because it is.
He clearly has an agenda and feels that because he was one of the peeps that helped discover pcr testing that his voice should outweigh the scientists of today, and based on what Ive seen from him and heard from him I will say he is not to be taken serious. And it appears a lot of other doctors and scientists agree
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#304
Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
You have "the right" to do a lot of things that doesn't mean they are the best thing for your health. Base jumping, rock climbing etc..
Some germs you develop an immunity to from small doses and exposures like bacteria with little chance of death....so go play in the dirt..is a good thing to tell kids. Others germs, not so much especially viruses that mutate. Don't go get AIDS or play with Ebola.
Science has never stated germs are good for you, rather that exposure to some friendly germs help us. But we still have to limit being around germs that cause serious illnesses.
Aids is transmitted via sexually only supposedly. Ebola I will give you credit for in this case. Even so, this vaccine is the fastest on record, it is proven that is rewrites your RNA which will forever change your DNA. I'm no Scientist, but sounds scary to me. Let us also recall, they have stated that this vaccine WILL NOT prevent you from getting COVID, it will "lessen" the overall affects upon you if you transmit it. With the COVID mutating as you suggest, the vaccine in this case will only cover certain strains of this deadly virus.
I wasn't suggesting to go and grab every type of germ because it is good for you, but the more germs one is exposed to in general and the body fights off; the stronger your immune system becomes in handling something more dangerous. If you are never exposed to any germs by sanitizing everything you come in contact with, the common cold will eventually kill a younger person because of this "new" theory to attack germs and kill them before they enter the body.
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#305
Originally posted by The Kraken
Sure, theres a lot to dissect in that video.
First off, you can tell theres something not quite right with Kary Mullis. His speech pattern, body movements while talking, train of thoughts, etc, he’s all over the place.
Mullis says “I like humans but they cannot judge who the best and the brightest scientist are”
His implication is because most of us are not elite level scientists that we cannot judge who the elite level scientists are.
Yet he says “Fauci knows nothing about anything, nothing about Medicine”
Using Mullis’s logic against him, Mullis cannot judge whether Fauci is a brilliant physician that has a great knowledge of medicine because Mullis is not a doctor, he’s a scientist, theres a big difference. He makes many contradicting statements. But to say Fauci knows “nothing about anything” is incredulous and it actually diminishes his point, if he even has one.
As for Fauci not agreeing to a 1 on 1 debate with him at the UNC, why would Fauci agree to that? Its not beneficial in any way to debate someone in that forum.
Mullis has also made incorrect statements as to the role of PCR testing in identifying covid. PCR is a reliable test in identifying covid, 90-95% sensitive, but its prone to false negatives. Thats acceptable. We can live with false negatives because we know if a test is prone to false negatives and the patient exhibits signs or symptoms of covid, just treat them as positive even if they tsted negative, easy solution.
He can say he did not intend for the PCR to be used in identifying viral illnesses, but he cannot say that the pcr is not beneficial today in identifying viruses and testing large amounts of people because it is.
He clearly has an agenda and feels that because he was one of the peeps that helped discover pcr testing that his voice should outweigh the scientists of today, and based on what Ive seen from him and heard from him I will say he is not to be taken serious. And it appears a lot of other doctors and scientists agree
Of course Fanuci knows things, hell, he predicted this virus a few years before the Trump Presidency didn't he? Thought there were videos on SBR posted about that.
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#306
Originally posted by The Kraken
Sure, theres a lot to dissect in that video.
First off, you can tell theres something not quite right with Kary Mullis. His speech pattern, body movements while talking, train of thoughts, etc, he’s all over the place.
Mullis says “I like humans but they cannot judge who the best and the brightest scientist are”
His implication is because most of us are not elite level scientists that we cannot judge who the elite level scientists are.
Yet he says “Fauci knows nothing about anything, nothing about Medicine”
Using Mullis’s logic against him, Mullis cannot judge whether Fauci is a brilliant physician that has a great knowledge of medicine because Mullis is not a doctor, he’s a scientist, theres a big difference. He makes many contradicting statements. But to say Fauci knows “nothing about anything” is incredulous and it actually diminishes his point, if he even has one.
As for Fauci not agreeing to a 1 on 1 debate with him at the UNC, why would Fauci agree to that? Its not beneficial in any way to debate someone in that forum.
Mullis has also made incorrect statements as to the role of PCR testing in identifying covid. PCR is a reliable test in identifying covid, 90-95% sensitive, but its prone to false negatives. Thats acceptable. We can live with false negatives because we know if a test is prone to false negatives and the patient exhibits signs or symptoms of covid, just treat them as positive even if they tsted negative, easy solution.
He can say he did not intend for the PCR to be used in identifying viral illnesses, but he cannot say that the pcr is not beneficial today in identifying viruses and testing large amounts of people because it is.
He clearly has an agenda and feels that because he was one of the peeps that helped discover pcr testing that his voice should outweigh the scientists of today, and based on what Ive seen from him and heard from him I will say he is not to be taken serious. And it appears a lot of other doctors and scientists agree
that interview was PRE-COVID
mullis died (or was killed) right before the pandemic
fauci is not a real doctor, he's a government worker... fauci and his wife are in charge of handing out federal funds, so there aren't a lot of dissenting opinions because they know they will be marginalized/cut off from funding... it's no different than the mafia
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#307
fauci is such a trickster, i don't think he's capable of telling the truth
takes a vaccine in his left arm, and claims his only side effect is pain in his right arm
Anthony Fauci appearing to be vaccinated in his left arm, but when being interviewed about it a short time later he points to his right arm.
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48531
#308
My wife got her first dose this afternoon. No wait, got it easily. Didn't even have to show ID. I'm getting mine tomorrow afternoon.
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manny24
SBR Posting Legend
10-22-07
20046
#309
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
My wife got her first dose this afternoon. No wait, got it easily. Didn't even have to show ID. I'm getting mine tomorrow afternoon.
very obedient
also no one gives a fuk fat boy
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#310
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
Then just consider yourself lucky. I also know people who had no symptoms. Maybe they had a false positive? My daughter had a false positive but never had it. But, I also know A LOT of people who had a very rough time with it. Many, still have symptoms months later. I also know several people who have died. Including young people. Just because you had an easy time with it and the 3 people you know, does not mean EVERYONE will have the same result. Why do you feel the need to minimize this virus, just because you weren't impacted? Do you really think people are going to the hospital for no good reason? Do you really think people are just making it up? Why don't you talk to Anthony Towns who's had 7 family members all die to this virus, including his young mom. How about the Florida basketball player who got covid in the summer but months later fell out, was put in a coma and almost died with myocarditis that was not detected? I saw first hand people grasping for their last breath, going code blue in the hospital and dying. I saw a father and daughter come in together and die hours apart. She was 31 years old. A college buddy got diagnosed on a Friday and was dead Sunday. For you to claim that it only effects the vulnerable is cruel and uninformed. I hope and pray that no one close to you dies from it or has complications. Should it really take a personal traumatic event for your to take it serious?
The concept of not straining our health care system and overloading the hospitals to the brink just seems to slip by these conspiracy loons each and every day. Another 4000 dead today but hey i need my freedom.
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Unrivaled
SBR Hall of Famer
10-24-11
6685
#311
Why would you even want the vaccine. It has a 99.99% survival rate.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#312
Originally posted by The Kraken
Day 0 it didnt hurt at all. Around 24 hour mark it was mildly sore for a day and that was it.
From what Ive read the second dose usually causes more of the flu like symptoms so I guess we’ll see. I’ll check in Sunday with an update
Okay here is an update of four nurses i know. The guy was fine. Next day he can’t lift his arm. Second is still in bed with flu like symptoms and this was the first shot. 3rd a girl who has thyroid issues arm is shot and her neck swell up a little. 4th my girlfriend who also has thyroid issues got the shot in her ass and did fine till day three. Her ass was sore and moving down to her thigh. She has a buzzing in her ear that is driving her nuts which is driving me nuts, and her heart is racing (which happens a lot because of her thyroid condition). I wonder if we are getting the shit side of the vaccine in Pa. Also i heard like you to prepare to take off after shot two, because you will think you have a bad flu.
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#313
in one year of covid, not a single nursing home covid death in the entire county... then a week after vaccinations suddenly 24 people die just at one nursing home.
0 deaths from covid before the vaccine in a year... then 24 deaths from covid AFTER the vaccine in 2 weeks
Virus has surged in Cayuga County over the last two weeks.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#314
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
in one year of covid, not a single nursing home covid death in the entire county... then a week after vaccinations suddenly 24 people die just at one nursing home.
0 deaths from covid before the vaccine in a year... then 24 deaths from covid AFTER the vaccine in 2 weeks
I wonder how you would feel if you actually worked in a high volume place. You sound like my buddy who works from home. I work at a high volume place and in the last two weeks i know three people who have died. I guess if you were witnessing it you would have a much different opinion
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Unrivaled
SBR Hall of Famer
10-24-11
6685
#315
Originally posted by Thor4140
I wonder how you would feel if you actually worked in a high volume place. You sound like my buddy who works from home. I work at a high volume place and in the last two weeks i know three people who have died. I guess if you were witnessing it you would have a much different opinion
High volume? You work at a hospital or what?
I know of plenty who got covid but none who got sick.