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  • ApricotSinner32
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    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #36
    Smoker 50k posts jesus getting up there in numbers.
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    • Arky
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      • 12-09-11
      • 1107

      #37
      The agency that gets me is the IRS. If you make money in clever ways, they want a piece of the action. This is basically Mafia-style extortion.

      They can spend our tax dollars on finding new, better ways of peering into our affairs. At what point do people make a stand and say, "none of your fkn business"? There are ways....crypto is a start but not totally anonymous unless you learn how to jump through the hoops that make it private and untraceable. Crypto is competition to the dollar and should be outside "the system" - but it is not. Look for the government to go to great lengths to make it a part of the system.....

      If you leave the country, as a born in American citizen of the USA, you are still answerable to IRS. That's not fair.

      The USA is 23 trillion dollars in debt and the government will keep printing money unti "the system" collapses. Try to have something of value on the side.... Precious metals (gold, silver) and crypto are good....
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      • ApricotSinner32
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        • 11-28-10
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        #38
        Originally posted by Arky
        The agency that gets me is the IRS. If you make money in clever ways, they want a piece of the action. This is basically Mafia-style extortion.

        They can spend our tax dollars on finding new, better ways of peering into our affairs. At what point do people make a stand and say, "none of your fkn business"? There are ways....crypto is a start but not totally anonymous unless you learn how to jump through the hoops that make it private and untraceable. Crypto is competition to the dollar and should be outside "the system" - but it is not. Look for the government to go to great lengths to make it a part of the system.....

        If you leave the country, as a born in American citizen of the USA, you are still answerable to IRS. That's not fair.

        The USA is 23 trillion dollars in debt and the government will keep printing money unti "the system" collapses. Try to have something of value on the side.... Precious metals (gold, silver) and crypto are good....

        There's a good documentary by Aaron Russo a famous filmmaker who interviewed a big suit in the IRS who basically couldn't prove there was a law that said we had to. "Voluntary Compliance"
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        • shadymcgrady
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          • 02-27-12
          • 10036

          #39
          Patty what are your thoughts on private and parochial schools? Or boarding schools
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          • ApricotSinner32
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            • 11-28-10
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            #40
            Originally posted by shadymcgrady
            Patty what are your thoughts on private and parochial schools? Or boarding schools
            I don't know much about private schools. I'd assume they pertain more value than public schools but cost an arm and a leg. Like I said wisdom and knowledge can be learned without a school. The kids/people who want to learn and are capable of learning will pursue it on their on and learn. Public education = public indoctrination. Brainwashing the masses to keep them well trained workers/consumers. Telling you how to think when to think if to think etc etc. What do you think culture is? It's a cult.
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            • MinnesotaFats
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-18-10
              • 14758

              #41
              Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
              Will you be fined/thrown in jail for living in a tent/shed on your own land?
              You don't.....

              Unless you acquired your land subject to the jurisdiction of a HOA, certain zoning requirements or established easements.

              Then those authorities have rights to govern your uses, because you, the owner, granted them such power or purchased subject to it.
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              • ApricotSinner32
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                • 11-28-10
                • 10648

                #42
                Nobody sane grants people powers over them for no reason.There is no choice it seems.
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                • b1slickguy
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                  • 11-24-11
                  • 11959

                  #43



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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48464

                    #44
                    Originally posted by spro23
                    Property taxes should be illegal. Youre paying eternal rent to the government
                    Property taxes are local taxes that are used to pay for schools, roads, police, firemen, etc. How do you plan on paying for these services if you don’t collect property taxes?
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                    • Jayvegas420
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                      • 03-09-11
                      • 28213

                      #45
                      you a Freeman on the land sinner?
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                      • ApricotSinner32
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                        • 11-28-10
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                        you a Freeman on the land sinner?
                        I mean that would be nice in theory but I know it's not true.
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                        • BeatTheJerk
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                          • 08-19-07
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                          #47
                          Patty has all the answers in life besides this one.
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                          • ApricotSinner32
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                            • 11-28-10
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                            Patty has all the answers in life besides this one.
                            Just having a discussion guy. What did you mean by this? It's kind of vague
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                            • Redlily5150
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 10-02-19
                              • 487

                              #49
                              Apricot owning land and having a gun and being free but not having a shitter on you property. This is a conversation you’d have doing dishes at the local KFC/Taco Bell. Land is cheap at lots of locations in America.
                              People will give you land to stay on if you pay the property taxes.
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                              • deltgen
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-31-10
                                • 865

                                #50
                                If 'freedom' to you means that you can do any damn thing you want, then no country in the history of the world has ever been free.
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                                • JIBBBY
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-10-09
                                  • 83686

                                  #51
                                  In California they encourage you to set up tents on the city sidewalks and call it home while you shoot up and piss all over the place..

                                  It's disgusting!! This should be so against the law but it's not..
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                                  • ApricotSinner32
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                                    • 11-28-10
                                    • 10648

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by deltgen
                                    If 'freedom' to you means that you can do any damn thing you want, then no country in the history of the world has ever been free.
                                    When did I describe such chaos/anarchy that I deemed reasonable?
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                                    • BeatTheJerk
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                                      • 08-19-07
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                      Just having a discussion guy. What did you mean by this? It's kind of vague
                                      It’s a pretty simple premise. You are way ahead of the uninformed public in general, but you struggle to find affordable housing for only yourself. It’s not like you’re supporting anyone else pal. So figure this shit out or go back home to “Mommy” or stay there if you already reside in such personal poverty.
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                                      • ApricotSinner32
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                                        • 11-28-10
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        In California they encourage you to set up tents on the city sidewalks and call it home while you shoot up and piss all over the place..

                                        It's disgusting!! This should be so against the law but it's not..
                                        There's plenty of land in the usa. The govt could people homeless people in 10x10 shed communities way far from businesses etc and just tell em here's a play to sleep/stay warm don't turn it in to a penetrating wasteland. If they don't keep the place decent you stick em in jail. It's not that complicated guy the people who run shit are dumb and greedy.
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                                        • ApricotSinner32
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                                          • 11-28-10
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                          It’s a pretty simple premise. You are way ahead of the uninformed public in general, but you struggle to find affordable housing for only yourself. It’s not like you’re supporting anyone else pal. So figure this shit out or go back home to “Mommy” or stay there if you already reside in such personal poverty.
                                          Jerky you have no idea what i'm doing sir I could be on mars for all you know.
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
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                                            • 08-19-07
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                            Jerky you have no idea what i'm doing sir I could be on mars for all you know.
                                            Also when I say you have all the answers to life I’m mocking the f.u.c.k out of you pal, so don’t question me & you can “vaguely” f.u.c.k off & find the appropriate forum for such answers to life.
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                                            • ApricotSinner32
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                                              • 11-28-10
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                                              #57
                                              Yo jerky why you so angry sir? Feeling that gambling pressure? GL guy I got an ace pick for ya but can't give it for free jack.
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                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                • 08-29-08
                                                • 20423

                                                #58
                                                I will agree the mortgage game is pure fuckery.....people don't understand it enough to realize how bad they are being ******
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
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                                                  • 08-19-07
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                  Yo jerky why you so angry sir? Feeling that gambling pressure? GL guy I got an ace pick for ya but can't give it for free jack.
                                                  Don’t question me “nicca” & we good.
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                                                  • ApricotSinner32
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                                                    • 11-28-10
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                    I will agree the mortgage game is pure fuckery.....people don't understand it enough to realize how bad they are being ******
                                                    It's been normalized so people don't even bat an eye. So much juice
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83686

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                      There's plenty of land in the usa. The govt could people homeless people in 10x10 shed communities way far from businesses etc and just tell em here's a play to sleep/stay warm don't turn it in to a penetrating wasteland. If they don't keep the place decent you stick em in jail. It's not that complicated guy the people who run shit are dumb and greedy.
                                                      City and Government just keeps throwing our State tax dollars at the homeless problem and it just continues to worse as it just encourages more of it. Having a tent is where you can do your drugs any time you want, it's private, and it's rent free. Then the city gives you freebies on the side like food and other goodies.. Homeless love it. They don't even want the free housing cause they won't be able to smoke up and shoot up in them.

                                                      If I were in power I'd make it illegal to tent up on the streets, I'd make it punishable with jail time of 3 months on the second offense when sleeping in tents on city streets or in the city public areas. The money thrown at the homeless problem now could then be re-routed and sent to jail systems to create work programs, treat the mental issues as the homeless then become sober, properly fed and clean up in prison..

                                                      Forced clean up works.. That would be a great start helping to fix the homeless problem here in California.. Make it criminal but not a felony.
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                                                      • ApricotSinner32
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                                                        • 11-28-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        Not sure what the answer is to long term junkies on the street shitting themselves etc.
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                                                        • od120731
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                                                          • 11-28-18
                                                          • 255

                                                          #63
                                                          each state has its own laws. I don't think that you will be picked up immediately by the police for that. we need to study the laws
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83686

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                            Not sure what the answer is to long term junkies on the street shitting themselves etc.
                                                            Lock em up and put them in forced treatment.. That's the only solution cause they ain't going any where or getting sober on their own.
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                                                            • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                                              • 11-29-07
                                                              • 26069

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                              Buy the land in cash... pay taxes on the land... but you can't do what you want on your land...lets hear an explanation baby.
                                                              Be
                                                              Cause what you do to your land can cause damage to surrounding parcels of land as in contaminated and such. Not fair if you own 50 acres of pristine farm land and some schmuck who inherited the land next to yours starts dropping chemicals on the property and shuts all over it it will eventually contaminate your land . Rules and laws are needed to protect from the idiots
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                                                              • grease lightnin
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                                                                • 10-01-12
                                                                • 16015

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                                I'll never tell you. You could be a fed. Or the feds could be watching.

                                                                Hey pal, we get it. Many of us have gone thru hard times. God bless
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                                                                • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                                  • 31794

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                  I will agree the mortgage game is pure fuckery.....people don't understand it enough to realize how bad they are being ******
                                                                  Rental game ain't any better either, cash buyers are the only ones ahead.
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                                                                  • teecee
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                                    • 6298

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                                    Will you be fined/thrown in jail for living in a tent/shed on your own land?
                                                                    Answer me this. If I "own" the land, why the fukk do I have to pay property tax? Who actually thinks we're free?
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                                                                    • BrickJames
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                                                                      • 05-05-11
                                                                      • 9749

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by spro23
                                                                      Property taxes should be illegal. Youre paying eternal rent to the government
                                                                      They cover basic government services like police, fire, prosecuting criminals and education.
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                                                                      • BrickJames
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                                                                        • 05-05-11
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        I this sales tax is complete BS. If you already have to pay income tax you're essentially getting taxed twice when you buy something.
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