Death Penalty reinstasted!! Your thoughts?

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  • PaperTrail07
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-29-08
    • 20423

    #36
    taking a life is different than wiping out some POS.....I could sleep fine taking out some POS.....
    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
    How many of you clowns have handed out a "death penalty" yourselves? How many of you people have actually had to kill someone. I know of one person in here that claims to have killed someone in "self defense", but I know of no other. My guess is that like everything else that you do in here, NO ONE has actually taken a life. Just a lot of talk, which is all you guys know now to do. Grow up little girls.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #37
      ^^^I don't ever want to kill anyone in my life time but if I had to in self defense or in a home invasion, protecting loved ones or even innocent people from dying I would shoot to kill..

      Like a mass shooter in the act, if I had a clean shot and gun in hand I'd pull that trigger and not think twice to save lives.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #38
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        ...Like a mass shooter in the act, if I had a clean shot and gun in hand I'd pull that trigger and not think twice to save lives.
        But after the shooter killed everyone he is going to kill, in mass, after he's arrested and cuffed in a room.

        Do you take the shot?
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        • Big Bear
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-01-11
          • 43253

          #39
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          ^^^I don't ever want to kill anyone in my life time but if I had to in self defense or in a home invasion, protecting loved ones or even innocent people from dying I would shoot to kill..

          Like a mass shooter in the act, if I had a clean shot and gun in hand I'd pull that trigger and not think twice to save lives.
          If someone broke into my home I would most likely shoot to wound not kill
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #40
            Originally posted by Big Bear
            If someone broke into my home I would most likely shoot to wound not kill
            You don't know that?? I've experienced that in my home.. Sound asleep, and you hear a window break and footsteps down stairs.. Rude awakening and ran for my gun, didn't know if there were a bunch of robbers in my home or one??? The home is dark and I go down stairs.. Gun pointed and cocked..

            I see a Mexican dude dressed in black, we meet eye to eye.. I hesitate, he turns and dives right back out the window he came in at lightening speed.. I can't tell you how close I was to pulling that trigger while aiming at his chest. It was hard to see and I wasn't sure if he had a gun or not..

            That was about as close to ending someones life as you will ever get!!!! He's lucky to still be breathing today..

            I'm glad I didn't end his life though in all honesty.. That might of haunted me a bit. Thou shall not kill does stick with me at some level.. A life is a life, people make mistakes and some are capable of redemption as they grow up..
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            • maggiethebestdog
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-13
              • 6700

              #41
              Originally posted by Big Bear
              If someone broke into my home I would most likely shoot to wound not kill
              LOL
              Anybody that draws a firearm without the intent to kill will most likely be killed

              You shouldn't own a gun
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              • Hman
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-04-17
                • 21429

                #42
                Originally posted by JIBBBY

                DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH 20 years later?



                Absolutely not

                Put yourself in those shoes, especially if you're a changed man after all of those years.
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                • MinnesotaFats
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-18-10
                  • 14758

                  #43
                  Originally posted by deltgen
                  With all due respect Fats--I hope that that is just an intentional exaggeration on your part. Those days are over?? Not if human beings are involved in every step of the criminal justice process. Let's start with the first step: the cops investigating. I've seen your posts on other threads and it is quite clear that you're not a fan of cops. Who knows what kind of malfeasance those people are up to when it comes to investigating, collecting evidence, interrogations, etc., etc. Unless we can quantitively say that false convictions are indeed a thing of the past, a death penalty just isn't the right policy to have.
                  Yrs I dont trust Cops at all, but I do trust the prosecution. The burden is so high....men that wind up on death row aren't there because of a misguided eye witness, some planted DNA or poor alibi. Murder today needs to be nearly perfect and without motive to be gotten away with. Prosecutors dont pursue dealth penalty unless it's a slam dunk case and the offender, given the chance to confess, refuses to do so, and rolls the dice at trial.

                  Usually these are multiple homicide cases or severe pre meditated or planned hate crimes. In the alternative I ask- what is life in prison worth?
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                  • JIBBBY
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-10-09
                    • 83686

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Hman
                    Absolutely not

                    Put yourself in those shoes, especially if you're a changed man after all of those years.
                    Maybe but maybe not!!!

                    Hypothetically speaking consider this Hman - I raped, tortured, molested and killed that little girl years ago, there for I sit on death row today 20 years later. I'm right with GOD today but that little girl that I killed and tortured doesn't have a chance to live out her life today..

                    SO I DISAGREE!!! The family that lost their little girl deserves to see me die.. Justice!! See where I'm getting at?????
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                    • Hman
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-04-17
                      • 21429

                      #45
                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                      Maybe but maybe not!!!

                      Hypothetically speaking consider this Hman - I raped, tortured, molested and killed that little girl years ago, there for I sit on death row today 20 years later. I'm right with GOD today but that little girl that I killed and tortured doesn't have a chance to live out her life today..

                      SO I DISAGREE!!! The family that lost their little girl deserves to see me die.. Justice!! See where I'm getting at?????


                      I already kinda believe it's not our place to take someone's life just because they did the same.


                      That makes us just as bad.

                      They will pay in the end.

                      So someone telling you that you're going to be executed and you don't know when it's gonna happen between 1-20 yrs is just irresponsible and absurd.
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                      • Hman
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                        • 11-04-17
                        • 21429

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        If someone broke into my home I would most likely shoot to wound not kill


                        More cops should take this approach.

                        So often they could just shoot to injure instead of killing someone.

                        This video is a perfect example.


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                        • deltgen
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 12-31-10
                          • 865

                          #47
                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                          You don't know that?? I've experienced that in my home.. Sound asleep, and you hear a window break and footsteps down stairs.. Rude awakening and ran for my gun, didn't know if there were a bunch of robbers in my home or one??? The home is dark and I go down stairs.. Gun pointed and cocked..

                          I see a Mexican dude dressed in black, we meet eye to eye.. I hesitate, he turns and dives right back out the window he came in at lightening speed.. I can't tell you how close I was to pulling that trigger while aiming at his chest. It was hard to see and I wasn't sure if he had a gun or not..

                          That was about as close to ending someones life as you will ever get!!!! He's lucky to still be breathing today..

                          I'm glad I didn't end his life though in all honesty.. That might of haunted me a bit. Thou shall not kill does stick with me at some level.. A life is a life, people make mistakes and some are capable of redemption as they grow up..
                          You didn't know if he was armed, but you knew he was Mexican, huh?
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #48
                            Originally posted by deltgen
                            You didn't know if he was armed, but you knew he was Mexican, huh?
                            I could see his face but not where his hands were at his sides.. Yes he was Mexican and probably an illegal if I had to guess. I probably should have shot him in the back of leg as he ran but I let him go.

                            That break in cost me a new window, side house sensor lights and window dead locks on all the bottom floor windows.. I'm considering front and rear video camera's but haven't gone there yet.. Ring security... I put BEWARE OF DOG signs all around my house now also.. I don't have a dog..

                            My hood is still legit.. 90402, Santa Monica California 9th street and San Vicente is where I live right now. We don't get alot of crime and the police response is like 30 seconds when it happens.

                            In all honestly I should have reached for the phone rather then my gun and called 911 and the Mexican thief would have been caught.. To this day he was never caught.. Got away clean..

                            Police came and dusted for finger prints, had the K9, and SMPD cars every where looking for this guy.

                            That break in made me beef up the home security.. That was not FUN... I got rattled..
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                            • PAULYPOKER
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                              • 12-06-08
                              • 36581

                              #49
                              I'll get back to ya on this as I need to cook up a death punishment
                              that creates the most nightmarish pain possible and sell it on
                              pay per view for a hundo a pop..........
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Hman
                                Absolutely not

                                Put yourself in those shoes, especially if you're a changed man after all of those years.
                                Could you imagine? Fuk.

                                After all that time, perhaps some criminals with some crimes deserve a re evaluation.

                                But some of these guys were involved in such gruesome shit, so it's a tough one.

                                A real tough one.

                                Maybe the answer is not to let so much time go by...lol.
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                                • gauchojake
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                                  • 09-17-10
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                                  #51
                                  ****OFFICIAL LOL AT TRUSTING THE PROSECUTION*****

                                  Yeah they certainly have no motivation other than truth, justice, and the American Way

                                  Prosecutors charge high, convict on lesser counts via plea, and take their record to the next pay grade, elected office, or Federal appointment. They do not care about justice only if they have enough evidence to win a conviction.

                                  They are the most crooked group in the whole lot.
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                                  • JMobile
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                                    • 08-21-10
                                    • 19074

                                    #52
                                    That link doesn't allow me to read the article because of a pop up add. I hope the death penalty includes for the state of California.
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                                    • gauchojake
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                                      • 09-17-10
                                      • 34116

                                      #53
                                      This is for the Federal death penalty. States have their own laws regarding the death penalty.
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                                      • MinnesotaFats
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-18-10
                                        • 14758

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                        ****OFFICIAL LOL AT TRUSTING THE PROSECUTION*****

                                        Yeah they certainly have no motivation other than truth, justice, and the American Way

                                        Prosecutors charge high, convict on lesser counts via plea, and take their record to the next pay grade, elected office, or Federal appointment. They do not care about justice only if they have enough evidence to win a conviction.

                                        They are the most crooked group in the whole lot.
                                        Federal prosecutors are a very legit and dare I say honest example of a belief in truth, justice and equality . It is different than your local County Attorney which is usually outsourced anyway.
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                                        • Cuse0323
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                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 30169

                                          #55
                                          The death penalty is so much better than sitting in solitary the rest of your life. I wouldn’t wish that shit on very many people. It will turn a sane man absolutely nuts. A great last meal, and some benzos and fentanyl or whatever the fck they give you is a top notch way to go.
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            Could you imagine? Fuk.

                                            After all that time, perhaps some criminals with some crimes deserve a re evaluation.

                                            But some of these guys were involved in such gruesome shit, so it's a tough one.

                                            A real tough one.

                                            Maybe the answer is not to let so much time go by...lol.
                                            Yup, no way a person that is convicted of one of the most hideous crimes then sentenced to death should get 20 additional years to think about it before being executed.. I understand the appeal process but that should not extend for over a year or two tops.

                                            You get the death penalty these days with DNA and Video Camera evidence, eyewitness and phone data you're gonna be 99% guilty of the crime. It's not like in the 50's and 60's when all they had is an eye witness and a finger print.

                                            Fry em immediately I say, Guilty as a charged, life for a life.

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                                            • bigtymer56
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                                              • 07-31-12
                                              • 4742

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by deltgen
                                              You didn't know if he was armed, but you knew he was Mexican, huh?
                                              It's dark, it's hard to see and the guy is dressed in black...but Jibby knows it was a Mexican. Ok.
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                                              • King tut
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-13-13
                                                • 814

                                                #58
                                                Slaughter them, Problem is deaths to good for some of them. Hang them up and beat the shit out of them. Then fry there sorry ass
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                                                • rickie65
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-27-07
                                                  • 2895

                                                  #59
                                                  100% behind the death penalty!

                                                  automatic for 2 time offenders

                                                  case by case for extreme first time convictions

                                                  at most 1 appeal within a year of conviction

                                                  castration for rapists and child molestors

                                                  public execution in some form - hanging, firing squad, guillotine, stoning, whatever

                                                  Dolphins have a better chance of winning the super bowl than innocent on death row these days
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                    #60
                                                    if we agree that humans shouldnt take lives then neither should the mythical "state". the state is god in a lot of people's eyes, they look to it for answers, believe everything it says, praises it's actions, literally state worship. rome did it as an appeasement to the masses just one more example of the illusion of inclusion. blind justice only seems to matter when it comes to us commoners the state is under a different set of rules
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                                                    • gauchojake
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                                                      • 09-17-10
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                                                      #61
                                                      I think we need to exhume Richard Dawson and get The Running Man going for realzzz this time!!
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                                                      • gauchojake
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                                                        • 09-17-10
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                                                        #62
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by bigtymer56
                                                          It's dark, it's hard to see and the guy is dressed in black...but Jibby knows it was a Mexican. Ok.
                                                          I saw his face you dumb ass. I can tell what a Mexican looks like 5 feet away from me looking eye to eye.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83686

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by rickie65
                                                            100% behind the death penalty!

                                                            automatic for 2 time offenders

                                                            case by case for extreme first time convictions

                                                            at most 1 appeal within a year of conviction

                                                            castration for rapists and child molestors

                                                            public execution in some form - hanging, firing squad, guillotine, stoning, whatever

                                                            Dolphins have a better chance of winning the super bowl than innocent on death row these days
                                                            Castration should be mandatory law with all repeat sex offenders. Especially when it was a sex crime against an under aged child.

                                                            They say child molesters can't be rehabilitated, I say they can if you snip the nads clean off. Castration works to kill sex drive.

                                                            Our stupid legal system should absolutely implement that especially for extreme repeat sex offenders. You let em out of jail they are just gonna do it again.
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                                                            • blankoblanco
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                                                              • 11-18-11
                                                              • 3499

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                              bring back guillitone

                                                              cheap
                                                              Guillotine is honestly one of the most humane ways possible to execute someone. It's just the idea that people find gruesome

                                                              Anyone who's bought into the lie that the current methods of lethal injection are quick and painless needs to do some research
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                                Guillotine is honestly one of the most humane ways possible to execute someone. It's just the idea that people find gruesome

                                                                Anyone who's bought into the lie that the current methods of lethal injection are quick and painless needs to do some research
                                                                I read some where when your head is decapitated your brain isn't exactly turned off immediately, was said the eyes are blinking and open, so there is a brief awareness as your head is rolling around on the ground.

                                                                I'm all for it with the worst criminals on earth.. Hang em, shoot em and or give them the chop.. I think Lethal injection and the electric chair are the quickest and most humane as you don't feel anything if we are looking for easy way outs.

                                                                Neck break from hanging might work fast also if it's a long drop and jerk neck break.. Still you probably feel something there too..

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                                                                • VeggieDog
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                                                                  • 02-21-09
                                                                  • 7214

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Hman
                                                                  Absolutely not

                                                                  Put yourself in those shoes, especially if you're a changed man after all of those years.
                                                                  That's even sweeter! Because 20 years later they think they don't deserve to die. Now they know how their victims felt.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                                                    That's even sweeter! Because 20 years later they think they don't deserve to die. Now they know how their victims felt.
                                                                    That is a very good point Veggie!!! The victims were innocent and not evil and were just living their lives and they got slaughtered and maybe even tortured by the murderer on death row. They don't get the chance to live life anymore.

                                                                    Best logical post in this thread!!!

                                                                    They should just admit what their crime as most don't on death row, they should show remorse and apologize to the family then get walked to the chair or table and face death..

                                                                    Those rehabilitated facing an execution date on death row that got right with God still need to face the justice system and pay for their unthinkable crimes of brutal murder that they committed!!
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                                                                    • gauchojake
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                                                                      • 09-17-10
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      When jibbbby mows some pedestrian down with a .08 we should just execute on the spot
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83686

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                                        When jibbbby mows some pedestrian down with a .08 we should just execute on the spot
                                                                        If you kill a kid driving .08 and a light weight maybe..

                                                                        I drive drunk at times but know my limits.. I'm not gonna drive sloppy I know that. I'll huber you bone head.. I drive better when I'm drinking a little because I know I've been drinking.. No DUI's on my record pal..
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