Keto Diet

[Frank Mills]

Dude you are the only one who has brought negativity in this thread. Let's start over. Perhaps I misunderstood and was just replying to the other guys post. If you want info on Keto I am really new and some of the other posters in here would be better suited to answer your questions.

Merry Xmas

[5918mike]

Is this guy joking or high?

[gauchojake]

Eddy Munny is an acquired taste

[freeVICK]

I’ve tried keto. Impossible to stay on track. One cheat day and you have to start all over with the keto flu. If you have any kind of social life this diet is stupid. Did I mention the 24/7 shits

[TheMoneyShot]

I’ve tried keto. Impossible to stay on track. One cheat day and you have to start all over with the keto flu. If you have any kind of social life this diet is stupid. Did I mention the 24/7 shits

Damn.... I didn't know that. Who wants to sh#$ 3 times a day?

[5918mike]

I’ve tried keto. Impossible to stay on track. One cheat day and you have to start all over with the keto flu. If you have any kind of social life this diet is stupid. Did I mention the 24/7 shits

Not my experience at all.

[Frank Mills]

No prob's with the shits yet

[Frank Mills]

Grouper w/ homemade hollandaise Sauce. A bit of squash.

[Eddy Munny]

That's fukkin disgusting.It probably looks better once it hits the toilet water than it does in that pic.

[Frank Mills]

hahaha

[TheLock]

i work with a marine who is very disciplined, he is in his 40's. he went on keto, went from about 250 lbs down to 200. that was in about 5 or 6 mos i think. now all of a sudden with the holidays approaching he is off the diet and is eating whatever the hell he wants and i can see about 20 lbs have come back on.

this is the biggest problem - these type of extreme diets seem unsustainable for the average person. are you average? well, you don't like to think so but you probably are............

I agree.

Super HYPE, everyone’s doing it diets are not sustainable for years for the vast majority of people. Keto (Paleo which is realllllly similar) will definitely knock weight off no doubt. But sustainable for most of us?

Hail fawk naw.

[TheLock]

, Chipotle lime mayo from primal kitchen is my go to.

Yes!

Their avocado mayo is really friggin good too. But it’s really expensive. $9 for a small jar.

[Frank Mills]

Yea, I saw that mayo too and what's 9 bux though lol

Also, Keto and Paleo are actually very different. Here is the thing. Almost all diets are or look good. The only real diet we know that is

trash is the Standard American Diet.

[Frank Mills]

This is worth a listen.

[TheLock]

Also, Keto and Paleo are actually very different.

I don’t agree with this at all. Paleo just didn’t take off in 2011 like Keto has recently.

I’d really like to hear how Keto and Paleo are very different.

I will say this, however, they are different in that there is no Paleo flu.

[Frank Mills]

Strict Vegan is Fruits , Veggies , Nuts & Seeds. Paleo = Add meat ( lean grass fed is always premium ) and there is your Paleo. A very healthy diet.

Keto = What is being talked about in this thread Lock.

[Frank Mills]

[bradthebloke]

has your blood pressure gone up with the fats and red meats?

[Frank Mills]

Yes I think it has brad and inflammation I can feel throughout my body as well. So, far I am not super happy with how I am feeling but everything I read and watch says this his normal during first couple weeks, etc. I am on day 8 or 9 today and have been very strict with
everything thus far.

About to make coffee now w/ unsalted butter, maybe a teaspoon or so of coconut oil and even a T of Heavy Whipping Cream. That's is like a meal in itself

[bradthebloke]

can you choose to stay low on the high fats? Still do the diet but use a lot of fish and chicken breasts for the protein? good luck with it. i know garlic and ginger are pretty good to lower the bp. has worked for me in the past.

[bradthebloke]

and i know fish has the good fats. im asking can you choose to cut down on the fats from red meats and cheeses? thanks.

[Frank Mills]

....yes sort of. I do believe first off my high blood pressure was from eating too much salt last night. I will try not to make that mistake again.

Yes, so here is the thing with the Ketogenic diet. It is carbs you don't want. You need to get a few via veggies and sometimes berries and that is a good rule of thumb. You never have to worry about getting enough protein from what I am exp'g so far but you do need to focus on getting 70% or more fats in the diet. We all know or have always heard that monosaturated fats ( like olive oil, avocado, etc ) are said to be most heart healthy but with Keto they preach a message that saturated fats are actually not from the devil like people have been taught in past. Now, here comes the curveball. If you add carbs to your high fat Keto diet ( in other words get slack or relapse ) then those saturated fats become from the devil again...haha. You see that ? So, everything is closed tonight so was light on groceries and went to McDonald's of all places and got 2 Mushroom n' Swiss Burgers ( no ketchup add mayo and mustard ) ..then got home and through the buns away. I was hungry and so just ate the burgers and cheese.

So, as radical as that sounds , it was the right kind of food w/o the wrong stuff eaten.

Also, just bought some Barney butter via Amazon which is Almond butter. It has the perfect nutritional stats for Keto.

I feel like it will be as hard as I make it or as easy as I make it. Like you said, Avocado, Fish ( oily fish like Salmon , Mackerel, etc ) and other healthy protein sources can be sources can YES DEF be used in place of the red meats and cheeses. The good news is that you can eat the red meats and cheeses in a way that we never could on a regular diet. A regular diet stores fat and burns glucose ( carbs ) first and foremost. What we are left with is unhealthy. The Keto diet has little to no carbs and should be like 2/3 fat and 1/3 protein or something close to a ratio like that. So, the burgers and cheese from McDonalds prob has about a 1/1 ratio of Fats to protein ( and could you believe we actually hope the fats are higher .....less we are doing more Atkins diet. ) This is why some of the foods and/or staples that folks on Keto diets eat would consist of stuff like Eggs n' cheese w/ a touch of sour cream, 1 whole avocado ( or more ) and maybe 2-3 strawberries. Also, bullet proof coffee i think they call it. Coffee with raw unsalted butter and coconut oil or with only Heavy Cream ( never 2% or fat free ) these are staples that keep us full and force the body to burn fats instead of carbs releasing ketone bodies and thus burning fat for fuel instead of storing it. It is simple but still hard for many to grasp what is really going on with it.

One more thing, eating a lot of nuts give us way to much Omega 6's and have us like 12/1 even 14-15/1 ration of 6/3's Fish oil supplements and like you said eating a lot of oily fish and focusing on grass fed beef ( because of the better 3/6 ratio's ) will not only prob give a MORE pleasant exp but make you clinically more or better Keto too.

I know I am all over the place with this post but I'm enjoying the whole exp and could prob type on and on here

Merry Xmas !

[bradthebloke]

....yes sort of. I do believe first off my high blood pressure was from eating too much salt last night. I will try not to make that mistake again.

Yes, so here is the thing with the Ketogenic diet. It is carbs you don't want. You need to get a few via veggies and sometimes berries and that is a good rule of thumb. You never have to worry about getting enough protein from what I am exp'g so far but you do need to focus on getting 70% or more fats in the diet. We all know or have always heard that monosaturated fats ( like olive oil, avocado, etc ) are said to be most heart healthy but with Keto they preach a message that saturated fats are actually not from the devil like people have been taught in past. Now, here comes the curveball. If you add carbs to your high fat Keto diet ( in other words get slack or relapse ) then those saturated fats become from the devil again...haha. You see that ? So, everything is closed tonight so was light on groceries and went to McDonald's of all places and got 2 Mushroom n' Swiss Burgers ( no ketchup add mayo and mustard ) ..then got home and through the buns away. I was hungry and so just ate the burgers and cheese.

So, as radical as that sounds , it was the right kind of food w/o the wrong stuff eaten.

Also, just bought some Barney butter via Amazon which is Almond butter. It has the perfect nutritional stats for Keto.

I feel like it will be as hard as I make it or as easy as I make it. Like you said, Avocado, Fish ( oily fish like Salmon , Mackerel, etc ) and other healthy protein sources can be sources can YES DEF be used in place of the red meats and cheeses. The good news is that you can eat the red meats and cheeses in a way that we never could on a regular diet. A regular diet stores fat and burns glucose ( carbs ) first and foremost. What we are left with is unhealthy. The Keto diet has little to no carbs and should be like 2/3 fat and 1/3 protein or something close to a ratio like that. So, the burgers and cheese from McDonalds prob has about a 1/1 ratio of Fats to protein ( and could you believe we actually hope the fats are higher .....less we are doing more Atkins diet. ) This is why some of the foods and/or staples that folks on Keto diets eat would consist of stuff like Eggs n' cheese w/ a touch of sour cream, 1 whole avocado ( or more ) and maybe 2-3 strawberries. Also, bullet proof coffee i think they call it. Coffee with raw unsalted butter and coconut oil or with only Heavy Cream ( never 2% or fat free ) these are staples that keep us full and force the body to burn fats instead of carbs releasing ketone bodies and thus burning fat for fuel instead of storing it. It is simple but still hard for many to grasp what is really going on with it.

One more thing, eating a lot of nuts give us way to much Omega 6's and have us like 12/1 even 14-15/1 ration of 6/3's Fish oil supplements and like you said eating a lot of oily fish and focusing on grass fed beef ( because of the better 3/6 ratio's ) will not only prob give a MORE pleasant exp but make you clinically more or better Keto too.

I know I am all over the place with this post but I'm enjoying the whole exp and could prob type on and on here

Merry Xmas !

thanks for the feedback. Merry Xmas to you and yours as well.

[Frank Mills]

[Frank Mills]

[Chi_archie]

got the Keto Blunted hunger yet Frank?

I also found I would wake up a good 60-90 mins earlier than my alarm once into deep ketosis

[Frank Mills]

Not really Chi I am just 12 or so days in. Everything seems and feels real simple. It's a clean diet. I have been vegan semi long term before

and though this Keto is on other end of spectrum it's equally clean. I have joined a Facebook Keto group and they talk a lot about the 16:8 , 18:6 and even 20:4 Something tells me you prob know a little bit about all that IF stuff.

[Frank Mills]

The pics above are Filet Mignon and Maryland Crabcakes. Artichokes and Green Olives. Keto allows for me to eat like a king and starting

to easily acclimate to no carbs.

[TheLock]

got the Keto Blunted hunger yet Frank?

What is that?

[Frank Mills]

[TheMoneyShot]

Looks like about 800-900 calories on that plate. When you're on this diet... do you have a calorie limit? How many calories are you trying to stay under every 24 hours?

[bradthebloke]

update? are you dropping lbs like crazy?

[Chi_archie]

What is that?

The a biological side effect of ketosis is that you lose a lot of cravings and hunger pangs. I would have very little appetite and have to force myself to eat at times.

Not a long term lifestyle

But a method that some might use for a short term deadline or goal as a Kickstart

[shocka1212]

I did Keto back in 2015-2016 after doing strict Macro counting for a long time before then. Was absolutely shredded but don't think its sustainable for putting on lean mass. good for leaning out. what I've been doing now is Eggs/Oatmeal for breakfast, Fish and salad for lunch. beef/potato or brown rice pre workout dinner and then turkey with salad late before bed.

[TheMoneyShot]

This isn't the Keto Diet... this is TheMoneyShot diet...

This is what I eat practically every meal... 4-5 times every day.

Everything listed is in the bowl... but because of the camera angle... you won't see it all.

White Rice - 92g cooked
Tuna - 5 ounces
Mushrooms - 60g
Radishes - 100g
Green Beans - 100g
Cucumber - 100g
Green Apple - 45g
Hard Boiled Egg Whites - 3

You'll drop inches from your waist rapidly.