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I dont need your bull shit example of what you think is reality. You are out of touch and your views are a great reminder of what I dont want to be. You show on a consistent bases you know nothing about what working people go through . Im doing very very well. But unlike you I have concern for my country and believe in the greater good.
You forget who I am and what I told you about myself. But I remember you well. You are a corporate sell out. Very simple. You dont care what is best for this Country. Only what is best for you. I get it. Some people dont have the ability to walk in someone else's shoes. Its a terrible character flaw. You should work on that it would make you a more successful happier person.
Who are you to dictate what a job you never did is worth ? Just because a corporate puppet like yourself decides this job should not pay a livable wage doesnt make it true. The type of work that takes place at Amazon used to be enough to live a decent life. At some point you and corporate jack offs like you decided those jobs pay shit now. Until you realize those are facts. You will be the out of touch guy on SBR who forgets how life used to be when companies took care of hard workers.Comment -
Well don't hyper ventilate. I bring you truth even if it stings a little.
You will never be able to "regulate" a business to pay you more than you are worth. Working in an Amazon sort facility is pure-D unskilled labor. But you can drive that package for UPS and make $80k a year.
For whatever reason libs struggle with the idea that a business "should" pay a person more than they are worth. You used Walmart last time. WMT obviously doesn't have to pay more to staff its business. They ain't a charity, they are responsible to their shareholders, the fuggers who put up all the money and hired them to run a profitable enterprise.
And ideas that would actually raise wages like lower taxes you fuggers are against. Which is one reason you guys keep losing.
So there ya go. Truth and reality in a mostly respectful delivery.Comment -
Oh so what he is worth is somehow related to what I make??
gawwwwd Dam that's funny! That's your best line EVER!
.....ok, caught my breath...stomach hurts a little.. so if i paid him based on profits will he go with no check when I take a loss? And does he pony up his own cash when the biz needs money? If I get sued does he help? If I go bankrupt does he go bankrupt?Comment -
Please don't use 1st grade level concepts on KnicksOh so what he is worth is somehow related to what I make??
gawwwwd Dam that's funny! That's your best line EVER!
.....ok, caught my breath...stomach hurts a little.. so if i paid him based on profits will he go with no check when I take a loss? And does he pony up his own cash when the biz needs money? If I get sued does he help? If I go bankrupt does he go bankrupt?
You should know betterComment -
Its not complicated Roy. In order for you to make a profit & stay in business, you could never pay someone what their worth. That's how capitalism works. Its not an insult, that's the system we live in.Oh so what he is worth is somehow related to what I make??
gawwwwd Dam that's funny! That's your best line EVER!
.....ok, caught my breath...stomach hurts a little.. so if i paid him based on profits will he go with no check when I take a loss? And does he pony up his own cash when the biz needs money? If I get sued does he help? If I go bankrupt does he go bankrupt?
All that other crap is just part of being in business. You would lay him off, or close the business. But your never going to pay him for as much as he produces.
You better take another class.Comment -
That's where you are bizarrely wrong. Unless you have changed the definition of what he's worth. If a guy will work for $10 hr that's what he's worth. If he won't it's because he's worth more.
I've hired a lot of fuggers. Had more than a few say no, I need more money. So that guy was worth more than I was willing to pay and he went his way and probably found what he thought he was worth.
If you are saying a guy is worth somewhere near what he makes me then you have lost your Marxist marbles. Seriously. You must have less than zero concept of business.Comment -
You just said what I told you. Your never going to hire someone that you have to pay what their worth.
Back to production. In order for you to hire a worker he has to produce more than your willing to pay him. Say he produces $100 dollars a day. His worth is $100. Are you going to pay him a $100 dollars a day? Of course not.Comment -
Let's say I own a taxi company. I hire a driver. He books $100 a day. Do I pay him the full $100, or do I deduct the cost of the car, the insurance, the maintenance, the fluids, car parts, medallions, etc? At the end of the day, if the taxi driver doesn't like that I took money out of his book, he is free to pay for all that stuff and start his own company.Comment -
Anyone who has browsed this thread should notice the left has almost no conception of how business works with respect to employees.
They want the employees to be treated like hybrid shareholders. Enjoy & share in the fruits during good times but bare none of the risk or upfront investment.
The only scary part is they would pursue this what they call social-economic justice even knowing it would have catastrophic consequences. Why? Because they would rather have a severe depression and social-economic justice than a thriving "unjust" economy.
To create this impossible social-economic Marxist like utopia you would need HEAVY government regulation. Regulating what the CEO makes down to the janitor. And you need heavy taxes to fund this huge government. Just the absolute complete opposite of what Trump is doing.
So if you see these neo-socilaists or economic justice warriors becoming unhinged the above explains why.Comment -
catastrophic consequences, severe depression, we have this & more without social-economic justice. So I have no idea what your trying to say.
Lets just put into words people will understand. If you couldn't exploit people for money you wouldn't risk your upfront investment. I think everyone understands that & who's unhinged?
Just because you like the neo fascism Trump is doing. Doesn't mean we all have to.
Your post is pissing in peoples faces & you don't even know it.Comment -
You are skipping over the fact that years ago before corporate greed put there foot on the throat of working people. Jobs similar to Warehouse labor used to pay far better than they do now.
Your anaology makes a little sense if you live in the sticks. Unfortunately In heavily populated areas there will always be someone desperate enough to work that warehouse labor job for less than what it used to pay. Is that really how you think it should be ? There is no end to corporate greed. Do you enjoy paying for those workers foood stamps ? You never address that either. Just bury your face in the sand while Bezos and Waltons butt rape us tax payers. Strang fetish you have there.Comment -
I pay employees what the market dictates. I actually paid higher than market because I had a lot of training cost and very much wanted to retain people.
Dude I hear what you're saying on food stamps and economic justice. You guys are just going down the wrong path to address the problem. If you mandate $15 an hour you will hurt the people you are trying to help. That is settled science.
As long as you are FOR flooding the country with 1 million people a year working mostly for under the table cash and driving down the low end of wages and strangling companies to the point they leave and creating massive expenses with regulations and having high taxes you will always have the situation you have been talking about. Raise the min wage, will make it even worse.
You just can't accept the solution. For example if you had a zero % corp tax & stopped illegal immigration you would have companies camped out at high school graduations and offering the moon to send kids to college or vocational or their own inhouse training in exchange for a contract. You want higher wages? Create more jobs than you have workers.Comment -
No, a business will make money after those investments are paid off. Using the taxi analogy, if I pay 25k for a car, and you drive it, making an average of $200 a shift 14 times a week, that car makes $2800 a week. I'll pay the drivers half, and the rest (cost of the car, insurance, maintenance, medallion, government fees, etc) goes to me. Once I get some of those things paid off, I start making profit off that car. If that car gets totaled with only 5,000 miles on it, I lose money on the car. Do that with every car, I'm out of business and have lost lots of money.Comment -
That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. You've blasted "free rents" on this forum for quite some time, and now you're defending them. Like I keep saying, the goal of the left is to make the groups they love better off at the expense of the groups they hate.
BTW, if companies can't profit, they go out of business and there are no cabs to take.Comment -
You were saying that employers aren't paying their employees everything the employees are producing. I just pointed out that the employees are relying heavily on employers' property to produce anything, and therefore the employers should get a cut. You tried to change the subject to workers need enough to buy things, which has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Again, if businesses aren't profitable, there won't be any businesses.Comment
