DWI stops up this weekend after Jihahdist's No Show; Donk's Tips on DWI stops

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  • Auto Donk
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-03-13
    • 43558

    #1
    DWI stops up this weekend after Jihahdist's No Show; Donk's Tips on DWI stops
    As a bit of a public service message to any of you planning on gettin' hammered this weekend while celebrating the 4th:

    first off, due to that group of fig-gobblin carpet pilots calling themselves "Isis", law enforcement nationwide is "significantly stepping up their presence in the community."

    Cutting to the chase, what this means for all of us who drink and drive is that once the dune dwellers don't show/attack, there are going to be hundreds of extra cops left out there on the streets to do what they do best: harass otherwise law-abiding citizens and search for ways to cover the huge expense of having all their idiot asses earning time and half out on the streets..... Quick translation: more DWI stops.....

    Now, with that in mind, follow this f'n advice (I give it to clients/friends/associates all the time, and they still don't follow it under the pressure of a dwi stop, AND THEY ALWAYS REGRET IT):

    1. When you see flashing lights behind you, OBEY all traffic laws, i.e., use signals, don't speed, keep it between the lines, etc.. You're on video, and the first defense to "driving drunk" is to look sober via your driving.

    2. As you're following the law, put away (unnoticably to the cop behind you) anything that could get you into trouble that is in "plain view," as if the cop sees contraband, open cotainers, drug paraphernalia, etc, he doesn't need a warrant to search your car.....

    3. If you have been drinking, before stopping try to inconspicuously pop a piece of gum into your mouth, to get rid of the alchol odor.

    4. After stopped and approached, the cop will invariably ask you to get out of the car.... You're on videotape, usually with sound, so any talking you do, do your best to sound sober..... You can ask him why you're being pulled over, and why are you being asked to get out of the car if you'd like. It commits him to his "probable cause" theory "on the record," so to speak.....

    5. assuming he's insistent and gives you an at least a semi-valid excuse for the traffic stop, (speeding, swerving out of lane, no blinker, ran stop sign, etc.), and more or less orders you out of the car, get out as best you can without falling or staggering, again, look as sober as possible as your on his dash cam......

    (also note: try to have your license and ins. out before he approaches, so he doesnt see you fumbling with it (more cause to believe your drunk)

    5.a. If he asks you "have you had anything to drink tonight?" DO NOT SAY "ONE OR TWO", "i HAD A FEW HOURS AGO WITH DINNER", OR "ONLY A COUPLE EARLIER TONIGHT". THAT GIVES HIM PROBABLE CAUSE TO HAVE YOU STEP OUT OF THE CAR..... I don't care if you and one other dude floated a f'n keg between the two of you, politely say "I haven't had anything to drink, officer"

    5.b. never, ever consent to any request to "search your car." again, say your lawyer friend said "never consent to any searches without a warrant, as a matter of policy." "Nothing personal, officer, I'm just following my lawyer friend's advice."

    6. if he informs you that he wants to administer field sobriety tests, politely inform him that you have a friend who is an attorney who has advised you to NEVER take field sobriety tests, because they are patently unfair and are routinely failed by stone cold sober people, such as yourself.

    7. if you've been drinking, YOU WILL FAIL THE TESTS, AND GIVE THE STATE ALL THE EVIDENCE IT NEEDS TO CONVICT YOU..... DO NOT TAKE THE DAMN TESTS IF YOU HAVE HAD EVEN THREE DRINKS......

    (OBVIOUSLY, if you haven't been drinking, smoking weed, or doing drugs, you can humor the cop a bit and try them, as you're going to get off eventually---these tips apply to those who, like me, will be drinking and driving this weekend)

    8. If the cop says, "either do the tests or your going downtown" -- they love that idiotic phrase -- say, "that would be a waste of our taxpayers money, but suit yourself, as I haven't been drinking and I'm obviously not impaired."

    if he then asks you to turn around and cuffs you, walk as straight as you possibly can and get into the car as soberly as you can.

    9. Once in the car, STFU..... DO NOT SAY A WORD TO ANYONE, ESPECIALLY YOURSELF! YOU'RE ON FILM AND BEING RECORDED.... do not take a nap, do not try to re-model the inside of his cruiser with your feet, and never, ever express regret for drinking so much.... If you're relatively sober, you can say to yourself under your breath, "this is such bullshit, probably the corrupt DWI task force trying to earn extra pay." ONLY IF YOU SOUND SOBER..... SLUR YOUR SPEECH ON TAPE U WILL BE CONVICTED. IF YOU'RE HAMMERED AND YOU KNOW IT, SAY NOTHING AND SIT AS STILL AS YOU CAN -- BUT WITHOUT LOOKING STEWED.... IE, LOOK ALERT, LOOK OUT THE WINDOW, ETC.....BUT DON'T SLUMP OR GIVE OFF THE "IM BLASTED" VIBE.....

    10. AT THE STATION, IF YOU KNOW UR DRUNK AND WILL FAIL THE BREATH OR BLOOD TEST, REFUSE THEM. Sure, your license will be suspended, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SUSPENDED ANYWAY WHEN YOU FAIL THE DAMN BREATH OR BLOOD TEST. All you will have done is give them a concrete number by which to convict you on......

    GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!
  • recon1
    SBR MVP
    • 08-13-12
    • 2579

    #2
    Good points if you are pulled over with PC being swerving, failure to maintain etc.

    But the rules of engagement change at roadblocks and the driver has much more leverage. Auto tell everybody from the Lawyer standpoint DUI roadblock citizen rights, because this will be most of the encounters people will have.

    As always, don't drink and drive and no problems will be had, but drinking or not always respectively assert your rights. Constitutional cops if any are left will recognize this and should respect it.
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    • Auto Donk
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-03-13
      • 43558

      #3
      road blocks, you can simply show license, ins., and registration through widow, and say "I know my rights, I don't have to roll down my window or anything else." "May I proceed now, officer?"

      chances are, when you do this, it will anger cops into following you or, in some locals, unholstering their weapons and pointing them at you.... try to have your iphone camera rolling if you're not, or haven't been, drinking... shit can get outta hand with cops that either don't know the law, or worst, think that they are above it........
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      • Auto Donk
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-03-13
        • 43558

        #4
        just got another dwi case from another guy i know who've i told on three separate occasions the rules above.... he said "i thought if i did the tests I'd pass, and knew i was going to jail if i refused."

        DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE........... now he's gonna have to pay me AND an expert witness on the issue of standardized Field Sobriety testing.... cost of your dwi case goes up by $3-5k the second u take a field sobriety test, and another $4-5k for an "intoxilyzer 5000" expert if you blow..........

        don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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        • recon1
          SBR MVP
          • 08-13-12
          • 2579

          #5
          Originally posted by Auto Donk
          just got another dwi case from another guy i know who've i told on three separate occasions the rules above.... he said "i thought if i did the tests I'd pass, and knew i was going to jail if i refused."

          DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE........... now he's gonna have to pay me AND an expert witness on the issue of standardized Field Sobriety testing.... cost of your dwi case goes up by $3-5k the second u take a field sobriety test, and another $4-5k for an "intoxilyzer 5000" expert if you blow..........

          don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Good point(s) also advise if a suspect actually has an accident even as minor as hitting a mailbox you forfeit the right to deny sobriety testing or B.A.T. Will be telling the LEO's "No" all you want, but the beat down and holding down part will hurt while nurse is jamming you with a needle.
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          • downsouth
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-13-11
            • 11580

            #6
            How long does it take from time pulled over until they get you to nurse to draw blood. If I think I might be close so refuse to take field, refuse breath. How long do I buy until blood?
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            • Auto Donk
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-03-13
              • 43558

              #7
              depends, downsouth, can be as short as 45 mins, can be as long as 3 hours.... most of my cases it winds up being an hour 1/2 to 2 hours, as usually they'll transport you to the station, then have another cop take you to a local hospital for the draw (at lest that's the way they do it in Texas).

              On "non-refusal" weekends, however, they will have a judge on duty to immediately sign a warrant and have a mobile lab to draw blood, those can be as little as 45 mins, depending on the location that you were pulled over and how far away it is from where the blood draw will occur.

              alot of this timing issue is based simply on the logistics of getting you from the scene to the blood draw locale.....

              some states (and police depts in major cities) may have all they need at the particular station to draw blood, shortening the time involved even more..... sometimes it takes longer to find a judge (3:00 am stop, for eg., usually results in a bigger delay than a 10 pm stop). If in a state where they have to get a warrant, you can buy additional time by letting them believe you don't really have a problem with the blood draw, then right as they get ready to do it ask for a lawyer (which they'll say "f u" to), then refuse, as it will start the warrant process later than if you openly state you're not giving em shit from the outset..... play a little poker with em..... slo-roll the decision as if you were WussyWaves on the bubble with 13 players left.....
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              • Auto Donk
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-03-13
                • 43558

                #8
                Note to any female s b r members who are hot:

                you have about a 50-50 chance of being released at the scene and escorted home if you "give it up to the cop."......

                you may initially bristle at the idea of being a whore for a night, but when look at the monetary value of the 15 minute "encounter," and how much money you save, you might go for it, as the hourly rate for your "services" can be in the ball park of $75,000 per hour!!!!

                specifically: bail cost (500), attys fees (4k-5k), fines (1k-2k), court costs (250), probation/comm supervision (1000), experts on video (2500), yearly license surcharges (4500-6000 tot for 3yrs) = 18,000 total dwi cost x 4 = 72,000 saved per hour......

                have had numerous women in htown pulled over and offered sex to be set free..... one of them accepted and was taken home by the cop, had fun and avoided the 18k expense....

                better idea to let the cop make the offer, as you do it, on film, he'll probably throw an additional charge of attempting to bribe an officer.... if he makes it tho, assume he's cut the microphones and is ready to play and negotiate away the charge!!!!!!
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  i hope everybody who drinks and drives gets a DUI
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                  • Auto Donk
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-03-13
                    • 43558

                    #10
                    for personal business reasons, that would be a quite a boondoggle for DonkLand..... I could buy up the rest of my block and make it into an all-out Kennedy Compound.....

                    Chivas in every room! Oxygen cannisters, as well, so ol Chappaquiddick Teddy wouldn't need to run around the halls in the nude to get "oxygen to his penis,"...... at least I think that was his "official" excuse for running around naked the night he and his nephew set out to go "rapin' in the night!"
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      whats fukked up is in my town we have had cases where people get drunk and then drive the opposite way down the highway sometimes with no headlights on.

                      (Mostly Illegal mexicans with no drivers license they say)
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43558

                        #12
                        haha.... back in high school someone was driving the wrong way on a divided highway, and we were trying to flag em down; they thought we were just f'n with em, so they started flippin' us off, right as they ran into someone head on!
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                        • bobbywaves
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-06-08
                          • 13280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                          slo-roll the decision as if you were Waves on the bubble with 13 players left.
                          I slow rolled a cop before, & it was as much fun as slow rolling yourself & Tripe.
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                          • Auto Donk
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-03-13
                            • 43558

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                            I slow rolled a cop before, & it was as much fun as slow rolling yourself & Tripe.
                            slo-rolling your tongue around the head of a cop's kahk, and slowly rolling your tongue around his cinnamon ring, is not what I'm referencing, WW.......
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                            • meader99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-30-10
                              • 4223

                              #15
                              Great advice. Here's some better advice..... Stay home or have a sober person drive you. Better than getting the DWI or God forbid killing someone over being stupid.
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                              • Auto Donk
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #16
                                damn good points, meader..........

                                Everybody try, I mean really try, to stay safe this weekend!!!!!!!
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                                • rkelly110
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-05-09
                                  • 39691

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by downsouth
                                  How long does it take from time pulled over until they get you to nurse to draw blood. If I think I might be close so refuse to take field, refuse breath. How long do I buy until blood?
                                  If you do admit to drinking, they will ask how long ago and if you ate during that time. They then calculate (I'm guessing). The longer they wait to test you, the higher the blood alcohol level will be. During that waiting time, they will have you do sobriety testing. If you pass, they wait a little longer and then give you the blow test.

                                  If you can get that blow test sooner, the better. From my experience, I tell them I had food and drink over an hour
                                  ago. I get the test almost right away and pass.
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                                  • rkelly110
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 10-05-09
                                    • 39691

                                    #18
                                    Here in PA if you refuse, they book you. No going in front of a judge. Someone picks you up and go home.
                                    They will send you to ARD, send you to a psychiatrist to see if you have dependency issues and put you
                                    on probation for a year, while going in front of a judge who will revoke your license for one and a half years
                                    and give you community service.

                                    Refusing here, as you can see above, is tough, compared to going through the motions where if you comply,
                                    you lost your license for 3 months and little of the crap above.
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                                    • rkelly110
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 10-05-09
                                      • 39691

                                      #19
                                      double
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        easy

                                        if you drink even 1 fukkin beer do not fukkin drive

                                        real fukkin simple
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                                        • kcburg
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-30-10
                                          • 1219

                                          #21
                                          Question Auto Donk..

                                          How does moving effect a DWI..background I had a DWI July of a year..moved for work in January..once my license was reinstated my insurance never increased..ect..this was 10 yrs ago. Hardest part for me was giving up my commercial license even though I was not using it at my current job.
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                                          • R.P. McMurphy
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-15-12
                                            • 9654

                                            #22
                                            Just remember the gov "truly cares" about safety. Lol fukking dumbasses the gov and their "cause". Keep the hustle flowing boys
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                                            • Junkyard Dog
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-12-07
                                              • 4552

                                              #23
                                              any posters get popped this weekend?
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                                              • Auto Donk
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-03-13
                                                • 43558

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kcburg
                                                Question Auto Donk..

                                                How does moving effect a DWI..background I had a DWI July of a year..moved for work in January..once my license was reinstated my insurance never increased..ect..this was 10 yrs ago. Hardest part for me was giving up my commercial license even though I was not using it at my current job.
                                                in the most general sense, each state has laws on how it will treat other out of state dwi's.... in Texas, such dwi's can be used to "enhance" the present dwi to make the charge more serious...... you have two priors out of state, Texas will have to prove them up at trial to use them to enhance.... much easier to do now days since the records are almost always available via technology.... twenty-thirty years ago it was much tougher as many misdemeanor dwi's existed only in the archaic paper files/archives of each county clerk's office.......

                                                now, everything pretty much available with the press of a button, and much easier to prove up

                                                texas used to have a rule that any dwi's rec'd more than ten years prior to your present charge could not be used to enhance; F'N MADD changed that a few years back and the texas legislature caved and now any priors can be used irrespective of how many decades ago they might have been rec'd.....

                                                "enhancement" can be explained best by example. In Tx, a first dwi will be charged as a class B misdemeanor. If you have one prior conviction, a second dwi will be charged as a class A (ie, enhanced); have two prior dwi convictions, it will be charged as a third degree felony.....

                                                only good news is that I've found that many prosecutors are willing to treat the "stale"/old convictions more than years earlier as non-events, and plead the case out pretty much as if the old rule still applied..... Just got a guy 2-3 years probation (deal not final yet) on his 4th f'n DWI charge; the three priors were all more than ten yrs old....... they'd enhanced what w proould ordinarily be a class b misdemeanor to a 2nd Degree felony....... to get probation in this day and age on a 4th dwi in TX is pretty sweet.....

                                                hot prosecutor and my game clearly matched up well to get him a great deal......

                                                most chief prosecutors in tx courts grew up as baby lawyers under the old rules, so that helps...........
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