what's all this stuff on sandy hook

[Ghenghis Kahn]

and why wouldn't you want to make your lawsuits public for this case?

you want to make it public as possible. i mean you can settle out of court behind closed doors but when it comes to filing a case such as this, you would want tons of publicity.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

I tend to follow general rules of life so to speak... "if it can be done, it either will be, or already has"....If you can't think of one situation in which faking an event like this could be used to further an agenda, then you are not trying hard enough.

Not one person I know has mentioned SH, I'm not shocked, they must not watch the news....

[jtoler]

and why wouldn't you want to make your lawsuits public for this case?

you want to make it public as possible. i mean you can settle out of court behind closed doors but when it comes to filing a case such as this, you would want tons of publicity.

My 7 yr old gets gunned downed during show and tell at school while the other kids are booing his display and eating boogers you bet I'm suing, I wanna know why you don't have some type guard, cop, security cameras, something. I also wanna see my kid.

[raydog]

doesn't matter whether they win the case or not, law suits have been filed in other mass shootings. for sandy hook, not one was filed.

youre missing the point... if other lawsuits came up empty at other shootings, people arent going to continue to waste money hiring overpriced lawyers etc. when they have no case... i dont know if thats the case, but the city could have very easily offered a settlement before any lawsuits were filed... it could have been generous... and it could have been a "take this or you get nothing but lawyer bills" type of situation or a situation where they simply didnt have a case

[Ghenghis Kahn]

You've been given the reason over and over yet talk about other stuff. Gun laws is your reason, some states have some changes in gun laws since that day, its just a step till further bills are put forth. Nothing about Sandy Hook being staged shocks me, I expect such, it raises no emotion from me knowing about it because I know quite a bit of history and also keep up with their foreign policies across the globe, they do the same thing from the same textbook over and over because it works, learn about your country. They're now trying to freighten once again about terrorists tomorrow, trying to instill more fear to weaken citizens', never been afraid of a terrorist or thought about one a day in my life, more afraid of the police.

he's just trolling. guy does no research of his own but surmises his own thoughts as higher probability than someone that's actually looked into the incident. hence i've mentioned his trolling will be redundant.

next thing he'll bring up, the police report and start mentioning what happened that day. but if we mention they are the one's doing the coverup so why take the police report seriousy? then he'll just bring up some other irrelevant issue not pertaining to his previous question. it's a never ending trolling. might be a good time to ignore the guy since he's not even reading the responses...

[cala56]

Adm lanza

[Ghenghis Kahn]

youre missing the point... if other lawsuits came up empty at other shootings, people arent going to continue to waste money hiring overpriced lawyers etc. when they have no case... i dont know if thats the case, but the city could have very easily offered a settlement before any lawsuits were filed... it could have been generous... and it could have been a "take this or you get nothing but lawyer bills" type of situation or a situation where they simply didnt have a case

if you lost your child due to the school's negligence, it doesn't matter about the other cases, you file a lawsuit anyway. especially when these alleged victims parents are big anti-gun spokes people, they would try to sue somebody anybody. bills? they raised over 28 mil. i think they had enough to pay the lawyers.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

all they have to do is release the surveillance footage and this case would be closed. but why won't they?

[cala56]

Its all fakeeeee

[raydog]

the problem is that you guys think that IF this is all fake, that it was done carelessly enough to let avg. intellectual individuals pick it apart like its all too obvious... IF it were a hoax, the govt. would have a plethora of extremely intelligent agents, trained in everything possible (much smarter than any of us could ever think of being) making sure that there would never be any serious doubt in what happened... only people who are slightly to extremely mental would have issues with cases like this and other conspiracies that are obviously Not conspiracies ... you guys think you are on to something that has been overlooked.. you arent ... if you can think of it, its has been diagnosed , over and over, well before the "hoax" was planned ...

that being said, IF it was a hoax, its hard to say what the parents/actors were paid for their role and their silence... you would think that someone would have talked... there is no way that this many people could keep it under wraps

fwiw, the idea that this was staged, in order to get some gun laws passed, is a pretty ridiculous one... you dont need to shoot up or stage shooting up a school in order to get some gun law passed...lolz

[PAULYPOKER]

only gun laws that were passed, were passed in blue states, gun control WILL NEVER get passed in any red state, EVER, EVER.....

Last time I checked, one southern redder stater, self Hater, hit the
starter button on the Blue bus abandoning the Red bus ..

This was a Red state as red as a redheaded, ginger ale lookin step child.....
One of the 5 syllable two word states...................

Or has this state, been playin on the ROYGBIV team since it's birth?

Mr.Sumter AKA Mr. Gamecock went full blown rainbow, 240 years ago...Lol..

So, this state has to be the longest closet dweller in all of Rainbow Land's his-story...

If you wanna see an annual "no holds barred", two week,three weekend encampment of

sexuality/bestiality/stool pushing that makes Sodom 'n' Gomorrah look like child's play.

Sneak into the next BOHEMIAN GROVE,Scooter Rooster Roasting fest),Lol......
(annually held in mid July)on the west coast..

Since I have ruined

[Ghenghis Kahn]

the problem is that you guys think that IF this is all fake, that it was done carelessly enough to let avg. intellectual individuals pick it apart like its all too obvious... IF it were a hoax, the govt. would have a plethora of extremely intelligent agents, trained in everything possible (much smarter than any of us could ever think of being) making sure that there would never be any serious doubt in what happened... only people who are slightly to extremely mental would have issues with cases like this and other conspiracies that are obviously Not conspiracies ... you guys think you are on to something that has been overlooked.. you arent ... if you can think of it, its has been diagnosed , over and over, well before the "hoax" was planned ...

that being said, IF it was a hoax, its hard to say what the parents/actors were paid for their role and their silence... you would think that someone would have talked... there is no way that this many people could keep it under wraps

fwiw, the idea that this was staged, in order to get some gun laws passed, is a pretty ridiculous one... you dont need to shoot up or stage shooting up a school in order to get some gun law passed...lolz

yeah just like operation fast and furious or the bin laden raid. some of you give our government too much credit. they don't care if they do a good job. they probably get off doing things messy and people not caring about it.

when witnesses and actors start disappearing, when happy-go-lucky sandy hook leo allegedly commits suicide, when the chief of the police resigns right after the court hearing, it's time to pay attention. something fishy happened over there.

there is nothing wrong with trying to find out what exactly happened. i mean don't you in a way wish it was a hoax? that means none of the children or the teachers died. i personally think that is the ultimate good news.

not just gun laws but that small town received exorbitant amount of money from donations and i'm sure from our government.

[jtoler]

the problem is that you guys think that IF this is all fake, that it was done carelessly enough to let avg. intellectual individuals pick it apart like its all too obvious... IF it were a hoax, the govt. would have a plethora of extremely intelligent agents, trained in everything possible (much smarter than any of us could ever think of being) making sure that there would never be any serious doubt in what happened... only people who are slightly to extremely mental would have issues with cases like this and other conspiracies that are obviously Not conspiracies ... you guys think you are on to something that has been overlooked.. you arent ... if you can think of it, its has been diagnosed , over and over, well before the "hoax" was planned ...

that being said, IF it was a hoax, its hard to say what the parents/actors were paid for their role and their silence... you would think that someone would have talked... there is no way that this many people could keep it under wraps

fwiw, the idea that this was staged, in order to get some gun laws passed, is a pretty ridiculous one... you dont need to shoot up or stage shooting up a school in order to get some gun law passed...lolz

There is no problem, such things are textbook and old as day. It's almost instinct, if I wanted some things changed that required getting votes that were near impossible to get, its almost a natural reflex to think of staging something to shake up opposing ideologies. Countries have always done stuff and blame it on others, U.S. do it all the time, this isn't much different just no casualties.


“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”. – Josef Stalin

[nyplayer33]

My cat recently died and for 2 weeks I was miserable.
I never smiled before talking about her..Robbie parker sure did laugh etc before his cnn speech...just so many weird reactions. I bet you couldn't find robbie parker if u tried now...

[nyplayer33]

I bet if lt vance was asked under lie detector if sandy hook was same as reported.
He would fail...

[nyplayer33]

Why is there a lawyer at the hearing who acts like he's protecting vital info on main requests etc..lol

[nyplayer33]

Your trying to attach logic to so called parents who are in huge schock and anger. When your kid gets gunned down etc..you want the people who didn't protect them to pay and you get a lawyer and sue etc..they didn't sue cause the event didn't happen

[rkelly110]

he's just trolling. guy does no research of his own but surmises his own thoughts as higher probability than someone that's actually looked into the incident. hence i've mentioned his trolling will be redundant.

next thing he'll bring up, the police report and start mentioning what happened that day. but if we mention they are the one's doing the coverup so why take the police report seriousy? then he'll just bring up some other irrelevant issue not pertaining to his previous question. it's a never ending trolling. might be a good time to ignore the guy since he's not even reading the responses...

If you call using logic and commonsense trolling, so be it. Getting your info from Info wars is equivalent to a schitzo getting his info from another schitzo.

Not a god damn thing has been done about gun control since that shooting. I was in a gun shop the other day.
Still hanging on the wall were ar-15's with huge clips.

The only thing that came out of it was a discussion about gun control and a new school. Hundreds of people
are going to stage a horrific event for that? (this is where logic kicks in) You know people aren't too bright,
right? What happens in those conspiracy movies, rarely, if ever happen in real life.

Yes, I'm sure there have been false flags perpetrated to start wars, this is not one of them.

There's not a whole lot of information out there about sandy hook, why? The parents and the town don't want
their town and kids glorified by the press or another wacko looking to do what he saw to another school.

[nyplayer33]

Or the reason for such staged event has not been made or known...if there were no questions and it looked legit..there would be no issues raised. The retired state trooper n school safety expert Wolfgang says it has too many holes..I'd take his word for it..

[greenhippo]

Your trying to attach logic to so called parents who are in huge schock and anger. When your kid gets gunned down etc..you want the people who didn't protect them to pay and you get a lawyer and sue etc..they didn't sue cause the event didn't happen

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/14/us/connecticut-sandy-hook-lawsuits/

http://www.ibtimes.com/sandy-hook-lawsuit-newtown-families-seek-better-school-security-1781830

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/12/16/lawsuit-filed-against-gun-manufacturers-and-dealers-over-sandy-hook-murders/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/families-newtown-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-seller/

God, you are one retarded fukk man.

[greenhippo]

Literally everything you've said in this entire thread is wrong. Not just wrong, but "DURRRRRRRRRR, where my helmet at, I need to outside today" wrong. God, just stop.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

If you call using logic and commonsense trolling, so be it. Getting your info from Info wars is equivalent to a schitzo getting his info from another schitzo.

Not a god damn thing has been done about gun control since that shooting. I was in a gun shop the other day.
Still hanging on the wall were ar-15's with huge clips.

The only thing that came out of it was a discussion about gun control and a new school. Hundreds of people
are going to stage a horrific event for that? (this is where logic kicks in) You know people aren't too bright,
right? What happens in those conspiracy movies, rarely, if ever happen in real life.

Yes, I'm sure there have been false flags perpetrated to start wars, this is not one of them.

There's not a whole lot of information out there about sandy hook, why? The parents and the town don't want
their town and kids glorified by the press or another wacko looking to do what he saw to another school.

Lol infowars. Stfu you dunce. If you're so logical you wouldn't be such an egotistical troll.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Money and power make people do some weird shit. Seen this time and time again. If you were offered millions to follow orders you'd make the deal. For rkelly, few thouses probably...

[nyplayer33]

Notice how I'm called a name..if u called an isis member a name he would put u in cage n u be under water for 5 hrs..

[nyplayer33]

Sue the rifle company lol..im gonna sue planters peanuts cause the peanuts were addicting n made me crap I'm pants during my w3dding..give me a break

[Ghenghis Kahn]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/14/us/con...hook-lawsuits/

http://www.ibtimes.com/sandy-hook-lawsuit-newtown-families-seek-better-school-security-1781830

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/12/16/lawsuit-filed-against-gun-manufacturers-and-dealers-over-sandy-hook-murders/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/families-newtown-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-seller/

God, you are one retarded fukk man.

and who are those lawsuits against? adam lanza's mother's estate that doesn't exist? sandy hook elementary school that no long exists? to the rifle company they fully know they can't win due to the protection of lawful commerce in arms act?

i don't know about you but these are made up lawsuits since people like wolfgang pointed out that there were no lawsuits. all claims are made 2 years after. check the dates. who waits 2 years after? all the lawsuits are meaningless against either the buildings that no longer exist or to gun manufacturers they have no chance with...

[jtoler]

Its unprecedented to have a kill ratio such as Sandy Hook, let alone by a lone 115 lb gamer with aspergers. Unreal, 26 kills only 2 nonfatal, Columbine 2 killers with13 kills and 24 nonfatal. CNN showed some footage at one point that day that was not Sandy Hook but St. Rose of Lima school saying it was Sandy Hook with cops running around, 1000 different things don't make sense but I only needed 1 and that is if it hapoened show the footage. Again couldnt care less about this, this is nothing compared to what goes on.

[PittsburghPlayer]

Its unprecedented to have a kill ratio such as Sandy Hook, let alone by a lone 115 lb gamer with aspergers. Unreal, 26 kills only 2 nonfatal, Columbine 2 killers with13 kills and 24 nonfatal. CNN showed some footage at one point that day that was not Sandy Hook but St. Rose of Lima school saying it was Sandy Hook with cops running around, 1000 different things don't make sense but I only needed 1 and that is if it hapoened show the footage. Again could care less about this, this is nothing compared to what goes on.

Might I ask you to guess how long it is until ... a catastrophe happens somewhere in the country or world that will change America? By change, you might say the day that there is no more denial, where EVERYONE GETS-IT. I am hoping for later this year for personal reasons.

Or, instead of my asking for a guess or prediction... Might you suggest a book or author ...

[jtoler]

Might I ask you to guess how long it is until ... a catastrophe happens somewhere in the country or world that will change America? By change, you might say the day that there is no more denial, where EVERYONE GETS-IT. I am hoping for later this year for personal reasons.

Or, instead of my asking for a guess or prediction... Might you suggest a book or author ...

Don't know, but think it'd take some type financial suffering, pensions and social security tinkered with, massive inflation, worrying where next meal is coming from. That would be drastic for a place like here but some type suffering usually occurs before people start turning their eyes toward gov't, not sure we will see a majority enlightened society in our lifetime, we're just too conditioned to be duped, its changing little by little though.

Books on what topic?

[bob6199]

Its unprecedented to have a kill ratio such as Sandy Hook, let alone by a lone 115 lb gamer with aspergers. Unreal, 26 kills only 2 nonfatal, Columbine 2 killers with13 kills and 24 nonfatal. CNN showed some footage at one point that day that was not Sandy Hook but St. Rose of Lima school saying it was Sandy Hook with cops running around, 1000 different things don't make sense but I only needed 1 and that is if it hapoened show the footage. Again couldnt care less about this, this is nothing compared to what goes on.

do you not know what the kids at Columbine REAL plan, do you?, it would explain why they didn't kill as many ppl. I could list a bunch of reasons why there was more death at Sandy Hook, but this comment doesn't warrant it.

[nyplayer33]

Lanz as mom worked at the school..ok she used to work there...ok she never worked there..how bout the people on video walking in vircles...that was epic..

[Eddy Munny]

People that keep asking for motives of a Sandy Hook hoax need to realize that sweeping changes don't happen overnight. However, an incident like Sandy Hook provides ammo (no pun intended) for the anti-gun faction and gets us one step closer to that reality. It's the "kettle on the stove" effect, the progression of a mild simmer to a roaring boil, but it doesn't happen at the flick of the wrist, especially when it concerns something so deeply embedded into the American way of life, such as the 2nd Amendment.

If nothing else, Sandy Hook provides a pretext for more intensive surveillance of the public, the gradual militarization of our police force, or legislative action that often impinges on citizens' rights.

Take 9/11 for example... In the immediate aftermath, we waged a bogus war with a make-believe enemy that has devastated our economy, as well as morale, while lining the pockets of the fat cats that profit from global conflict. But other changes in our daily lives, that have their origins in 9/11, include The Department of Homeland Security, TSA, The Patriot Act, and a widespread increase in surveillance.

Sure, the government/media regards these changes as welcome and necessary, even giving them innocuous names and so forth, but it's all a ruse to impose tyranny one straw at a time. The public would surely revolt if the government attempted to exert it's will overnight, but if they do so bit by bit, the average joe is oblivious to it's effect, awash in entertainment news and disinformation. If and when the people wake up, it could very well be too late.

[rkelly110]

Lol infowars. Stfu you dunce. If you're so logical you wouldn't be such an egotistical troll.

You believe sandy hook never happened and I'm the dunce??????????

[greenhippo]

and who are those lawsuits against? adam lanza's mother's estate that doesn't exist? sandy hook elementary school that no long exists? to the rifle company they fully know they can't win due to the protection of lawful commerce in arms act?

i don't know about you but these are made up lawsuits since people like wolfgang pointed out that there were no lawsuits. all claims are made 2 years after. check the dates. who waits 2 years after? all the lawsuits are meaningless against either the buildings that no longer exist or to gun manufacturers they have no chance with...

The mother isn't destitute with no property, she has an estate. You are wrong. The families sued the city and the school board, not the elementary school. You are wrong. These situations always involve suing the gun manufacturers. It takes months, even years to build and file a suit of this manner. Come on man, at least put some effort into these responses, you're drowning here and it's embarrassing to see you try.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

The mother isn't destitute with no property, she has an estate. You are wrong. The families sued the city and the school board, not the elementary school. You are wrong. These situations always involve suing the gun manufacturers. It takes months, even years to build and file a suit of this manner. Come on man, at least put some effort into these responses, you're drowning here and it's embarrassing to see you try.

what do you think they did with the estate and sandy hook elementary school? why not sue the paramedics or the police department? they were the ones that were negligent?