Out of curisosity, how tough is the New Black Panther Party?

[Kermit]

I just read that if Zimmerman is acquitted that they are threatening riots across America.

Now my question is if a group of them come marching down the street and a few of them start dropping from bullets, will they continue to march and riot or will they retreat back to where they came from?



Supposedly they are busing in 100's if not 1000's of Panther members to Florida.

[SamDiamond]

I'm pretty sure you can't shoot them if they March.

There's something in the constitution about free assembly.

That protects them from being shot down in a wave of bullets.

I'm almost positive of that. Are you suggesting the state of Florida sell licenses to shoot them?

Can you clarify. Why would marching make it hunting season on members of the Black Panther Party?

But, then again, it is the state of Florida.

Seriously though, are there even more than 100 members of the BP Party these days? There can't be that many.

[Kermit]

[Kermit]

I'm pretty sure you can't shoot them if they March.

There's something in the constitution about free assembly.

That protects them from being shot down in a wave of bullets.

I'm almost positive of that. Are you suggesting the state of Florida sell licenses to shoot them?

Can you clarify. Why would marching make it hunting season on members of the Black Panther Party?

But, then again, it is the state of Florida.

I am not talking about them marching, I am talking about them rioting like they are claiming.

[GUMMO77]

So Kermit is Rifleman's protege?

[Kermit]

[Kermit]

So Kermit is Rifleman's protege?

No, I just don't think it's cool for a group of people to threaten with violence if things don't work out the way that they expect.

[SamDiamond]

I am not talking about them marching, I am talking about them rioting like they are claiming.

Well, can we start shooting West Virginia college football fans when they riot after every loss? Or Michigan State fans?

Both of those school have had considerably more riots in the last 5 years than the Black Panthers.

So---if we start shooting Black Panthers, this year of college football could be all that more exciting. Imagine a nice little riot in Lansing, Michigan-- and 600 Sparty fans gunned down by the Police.

It's going to be wild this year.

[Kermit]

I have to be honest, most of the white people that I have talked to about this case had the same response. "I just hope they find him guilty so the blacks don't riot"

This isn't how the justice system is supposed to function, and the outcomes of trials as insignificant as this shouldn't put fear into or lead to harm for innocent people who have had nothing to do with it.

[SamDiamond]

No, I just don't think it's cool for a group of people to threaten with violence if things don't work out the way that they expect.

You mean, like this?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/08/gop-newsletter-in-virginia-advocates-for-armed-rebellion-if-the-american-people-re-elect-president-obama/

The Republican Party seems to already be sensing that they will be miserably defeated on Election Day this November. So as a back-up plan, a Republican newsletter in Virginia is openly calling for violently overthrowing the duly elected government of the United States should Democrats still be in charge.

The newsletter, known as “The Constitutional Conservatives” was published in March by the Greene County, Virginia Republican Committee and it included a column titled “Whitehouse Watchdog” written by editor Ponch McPhee. In the column, Mcphee trashed President Obama and said that if the American people fail to elect a Republican government, conservatives should arm themselves and take back the government by force. Here’s the text via Right Wing Watch.

[Kermit]

Well, can we start shooting West Virginia college football fans when they riot after every loss? Or Michigan State fans?

Both of those school have had considerably more riots in the last 5 years than the Black Panthers.

So---if we start shooting Black Panthers, this year of college football could be all that more exciting. Imagine a nice little riot in Lansing, Michigan-- and 600 Sparty fans gunned down by the Police.

It's going to be wild this year.

Slight difference between spontaneous riots and organized riots with an end plan of death, theft, and destruction.

[SamDiamond]

Slight difference between spontaneous riots and organized riots with an end plan of death, theft, and destruction.

Kerm, are you drunk tonight? Why do you include "death" in the BP riots, but not in the Michigan State or WVU riots?

Let me ask you this-- if 200-300 black folks got together outside the courthouse, and a riot broke out---- you would be okay with that, but if they come in an organize a violent protest, that's where it crosses the line for you?

A recap of the MSU Riot: TAKE NOTE. NO STUDENT WAS SHOT DEAD.

Michigan State University - March 27, 1999

<big>How it Started:</big>
After the Michigan State basketball team lost to Duke University in the NCAA Final Four, approximately 5,000 students and fans gathered on the outskirts of campus. The crowd began burning couches, fueling the fires with anything burnable. Revelers were jumping over bonfires, throwing bottles, and set flame to a Chevy Nova.
Police marched in with riot gear releasing canisters of tear gas, forcing the crowd to move to another location. As the mob moved around, store window fronts were bashed in, including a Taco Bell window where a student made himself a taco. More looting ensued from there.
<big>The Aftermath:</big>
Police finally gained control of the situation at 5am, 300 canisters of tear gas being used in the process. The riot was a huge national media story, grabbing headlines and prime time coverage from major news outlets. 8 cars were turned over and burned, 61 fires were set, trees were uprooted and traffic signs were destroyed. Approximately 130 people were convicted for their involvement in the riot, two being charged with arson. Actions from the chaotic night caused more than $500,000 in damages.
Michigan State has a history of civil disturbances. The insanities that took place that night were a clear embarrassment to the university and those associated with it. The rioting at Michigan State set the tone for post-game antics at many college campuses. It started a trend that is seen year after year at campuses across the nation.

[Kermit]

You mean, like this?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/08/gop-newsletter-in-virginia-advocates-for-armed-rebellion-if-the-american-people-re-elect-president-obama/

The Republican Party seems to already be sensing that they will be miserably defeated on Election Day this November. So as a back-up plan, a Republican newsletter in Virginia is openly calling for violently overthrowing the duly elected government of the United States should Democrats still be in charge.

The newsletter, known as “The Constitutional Conservatives” was published in March by the Greene County, Virginia Republican Committee and it included a column titled “Whitehouse Watchdog” written by editor Ponch McPhee. In the column, Mcphee trashed President Obama and said that if the American people fail to elect a Republican government, conservatives should arm themselves and take back the government by force. Here’s the text via Right Wing Watch.

I have to be honest, I never even heard of that.

[TheRifleman]

the black pussy party is a joke....they are nothing whatsoever.

You can blame the leftist media and the leftists for making this into some kind of racial situation, when it never was.

The leftists' are to blame for every single person that might get killed or injured should any rioting occur.

THE LEFTISTS ARE TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS.

[Kermit]

Kerm, are you drunk tonight? Why do you include "death" in the BP riots, but not in the Michigan State or WVU riots?

Let me ask you this-- if 200-300 black folks got together outside the courthouse, and a riot broke out---- you would be okay with that, but if they come in an organize a violent protest, that's where it crosses the line for you?

Well there have been a lot of black folk making threats online that white people are going to pay if Zimmerman gets off.

I have no problem with the protests at all, but I don't want to start seeing innocent people getting hurt or killed because of their race. This doesn't happen in those drunken college riots.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

[Kermit]

My guess is that you could take all of the riots in history and add them up together and it wouldn't equal the damage done in the Rodney King riots. What was that? Like a Billion dollars? That is crazy.

[SamDiamond]

Well there have been a lot of black folk making threats online that white people are going to pay if Zimmerman gets off.

I have no problem with the protests at all, but I don't want to start seeing innocent people getting hurt or killed because of their race. This doesn't happen in those drunken college riots.

Funny thing Kerm.

I haven't seen you rail against the threat of extreme right wing violence, but you sure planted your flag over a fringe group like the Black Panthers and their threat of violence.

There is a study that came out of the USMA at West Point and the threat of violence posted by the extreme elements of the Right Wing.

This isn't a study conducted my "liberal media", but rather our very own United States Military Academy at West Point.

Here it the link. Bottom line. White people make a lot of violent threats to innocent people simple because their political party isn't winning.

http://www.ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ChallengersFromtheSidelines.pdf

[Kermit]

Kerm, are you drunk tonight? Why do you include "death" in the BP riots, but not in the Michigan State or WVU riots?

Let me ask you this-- if 200-300 black folks got together outside the courthouse, and a riot broke out---- you would be okay with that, but if they come in an organize a violent protest, that's where it crosses the line for you?

A recap of the MSU Riot: TAKE NOTE. NO STUDENT WAS SHOT DEAD.

Michigan State University - March 27, 1999

<big>How it Started:</big>
After the Michigan State basketball team lost to Duke University in the NCAA Final Four, approximately 5,000 students and fans gathered on the outskirts of campus. The crowd began burning couches, fueling the fires with anything burnable. Revelers were jumping over bonfires, throwing bottles, and set flame to a Chevy Nova.
Police marched in with riot gear releasing canisters of tear gas, forcing the crowd to move to another location. As the mob moved around, store window fronts were bashed in, including a Taco Bell window where a student made himself a taco. More looting ensued from there.
<big>The Aftermath:</big>
Police finally gained control of the situation at 5am, 300 canisters of tear gas being used in the process. The riot was a huge national media story, grabbing headlines and prime time coverage from major news outlets. 8 cars were turned over and burned, 61 fires were set, trees were uprooted and traffic signs were destroyed. Approximately 130 people were convicted for their involvement in the riot, two being charged with arson. Actions from the chaotic night caused more than $500,000 in damages.
Michigan State has a history of civil disturbances. The insanities that took place that night were a clear embarrassment to the university and those associated with it. The rioting at Michigan State set the tone for post-game antics at many college campuses. It started a trend that is seen year after year at campuses across the nation.

But no one was roaming down the streets with weapons planning to attack the opposite race. I know all riots are wrong, but race riots with planned bodily harm to innocent people are a whole other beast.

[Kermit]

Funny thing Kerm.

I haven't seen you rail against the threat of extreme right wing violence, but you sure planted your flag over a fringe group like the Black Panthers and their threat of violence.

There is a study that came out of the USMA at West Point and the threat of violence posted by the extreme elements of the Right Wing.

This isn't a study conducted my "liberal media", but rather our very own United States Military Academy at West Point.

Here it the link. Bottom line. White people make a lot of violent threats to innocent people simple because their political party isn't winning.

http://www.ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/u...eSidelines.pdf

The thing is innocent white people have already been targeted in attacks months ago because of this case. We don't need these shitbirds riling people up even more. And it isn't just them, there are many others out there doing the same.

[Kermit]

I don't know, I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how this thing plays out and if these extremist follow through with their threats.

[tony_come]

Riot!!!!!!!

[SamDiamond]

My guess is that you could take all of the riots in history and add them up together and it wouldn't equal the damage done in the Rodney King riots. What was that? Like a Billion dollars? That is crazy.

Actually your guess would be wrong.

The worst riot in the history of the united states was that of WHITE PEOPLE in New York City, men who protested the US Conscription Act--- (Draft), into the Civil War in 1863.

Historians argue over the number that died-----most average it out at about 700 men dead, and in 2013 dollars, it would have cost most than 2 Billion Dollars.

White people. Burning shit down, and killing people. Imagine that?

[muldoon]

No, I just don't think it's cool for a group of people to threaten with violence if things don't work out the way that they expect.

You mean like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

[SamDiamond]

The thing is innocent white people have already been targeted in attacks months ago because of this case. We don't need these shitbirds riling people up even more. And it isn't just them, there are many others out there doing the same.

Let me ask you this Kerm.

Who has killed more innocent Americans in the last 25 years, the Black Panther party or white right wing guys like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph?

I'll give you a hint. It's McVeigh and Rudolph. By a landslide.

[Kermit]

Let me ask you this Kerm.

Who has killed more innocent Americans in the last 25 years, the Black Panther party or white right wing guys like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph?

I'll give you a hint. It's McVeigh and Rudolph. By a landslide.

That is a good point. It's the quiet ones that you have to watch I guess.

[TheRifleman]

Actually your guess would be wrong.

The worst riot in the history of the united states was that of WHITE PEOPLE in New York City, men who protested the US Conscription Act--- (Draft), into the Civil War in 1863.

Historians argue over the number that died-----most average it out at about 700 men dead, and in 2013 dollars, it would have cost most than 2 Billion Dollars.

White people. Burning shit down, and killing people. Imagine that?

What an idiot dumbfuk punkboy you are. Stupid post after stupid post........what a MORON!!

[Kermit]

Actually your guess would be wrong.

The worst riot in the history of the united states was that of WHITE PEOPLE in New York City, men who protested the US Conscription Act--- (Draft), into the Civil War in 1863.

Historians argue over the number that died-----most average it out at about 700 men dead, and in 2013 dollars, it would have cost most than 2 Billion Dollars.

White people. Burning shit down, and killing people. Imagine that?

That is what Gangs of New York was about correct?

[TheRifleman]

That is a good point. It's the quiet ones that you have to watch I guess.

How gullible are you? These idiot leftists are playing you like a fiddle. Forget about riots, look at Negro crime in totality, and negro crime against whites.....they don't need to riot, they are rioting everyday in their own way. It's all low-key rioting.....these leftists are demented. They are sick, sick, evil, demented people............they are servants of SATAN. DO NOT GET INTO ANY PROLONGED DEBATES WITH THEM. THEY ARE LIARS and DECEIVERS.

Never debate with a devil, and that is what these leftists are! An exorcist will tell you the same thing.

[Kermit]

Actually your guess would be wrong.

The worst riot in the history of the united states was that of WHITE PEOPLE in New York City, men who protested the US Conscription Act--- (Draft), into the Civil War in 1863.

Historians argue over the number that died-----most average it out at about 700 men dead, and in 2013 dollars, it would have cost most than 2 Billion Dollars.

White people. Burning shit down, and killing people. Imagine that?

According to this, about 120 people died and costs(inflated) are around 75 million.

[Kermit]

How gullible are you? These idiot leftists are playing you like a fiddle. Forget about riots, look at Negro crime in totality, and negro crime against whites.....they don't need to riot, they are rioting everyday in their own way. It's all low-key rioting.....these leftists are demented. They are sick, sick, evil, demented people............they are servants of SATAN. DO NOT GET INTO ANY PROLONGED DEBATES WITH THEM. THEY ARE LIARS and DECEIVERS.

Never debate with a devil, and that is what these leftists are! An exorcist will tell you the same thing.

You don't have to tell me anything, I already know this. But I also get his point. I know blacks are committing well over 50% of the violent crimes despite being a small number of the population.

He isn't talking about overall, he is talking about certain groups or individuals. No one can argue those numbers.

[TheRifleman]

You don't have to tell me anything, I already know this. But I also get his point. I know blacks are committing well over 50% of the violent crimes despite being a small number of the population.

He isn't talking about overall, he is talking about certain groups or individuals. No one can argue those numbers.

he's coming up with his leftist BULLSHIT, and you're buying!!!

[Kermit]

he's coming up with his leftist BULLSHIT, and you're buying!!!

I respect all points of opinions and sometimes agree with them.

[TheRifleman]

I respect all points of opinions and sometimes agree with them.

he's running his usual bs at you, and you're agreeing with him.

[Kermit]

he's running his usual bs at you, and you're agreeing with him.

Let's keep this friendly. I like Sam and I have no issues with you.