G. Zimmerman right or wrong?

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  • billyloco
    SBR MVP
    • 04-07-06
    • 1411

    #1
    G. Zimmerman right or wrong?
    I'm not a big time poster here, BUT
    I am curious as to how y'all view
    this upcoming trial?

    BUT, I will say that none of this
    would have happened if GZ had
    stayed in his car.



  • Bruce Norris
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-17-13
    • 150

    #2
    He probably made a poor decision by following Trayvon. We'll never know what really happened. However, the media's portrayal of Travyvon was ridiculous. Poor kid, right? Yeah, right. Dude was a hoodlum, period. It does look to me like he was beating on GZ, and if he shot him in self defense while fearing for his life, it's his right. Could this have been avoided? Probably. Does it make him guilty of murder? No.
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    • Kermit
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      • 09-27-10
      • 32555

      #3
      I think the guy was frustrated about the crime in his neighborhood and sparked something that could have been avoided. Sure if he would have stayed in his car nothing probably would have never happened, but then again, if he would have just ignored Martin in the first place and just went about his business when he seen him, nothing would have ever happened. But that would defeat the whole point of him being some type of head watchman in the neighborhood.

      I honestly do not believe that Zimmerman had any intentions of killing anyone that night and only did so because he was being beaten. Did he instigate the entire thing? Who knows.
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      • Kermit
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        • 09-27-10
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        #4
        Originally posted by Bruce Norris
        He probably made a poor decision by following Trayvon. We'll never know what really happened. However, the media's portrayal of Travyvon was ridiculous. Poor kid, right? Yeah, right. Dude was a hoodlum, period. It does look to me like he was beating on GZ, and if he shot him in self defense while fearing for his life, it's his right. Could this have been avoided? Probably. Does it make him guilty of murder? No.
        Not only that, but the media also blew this entire thing up purely based on them thinking that Zimmerman was a white guy. If the media knew that Zimmerman was Hispanic, no one outside of the people involved would have ever heard of this case.

        The way that the media edited photos, videos, and the 911 call to meet their needs was absolutely sickening.
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          He killed a black kid cause hes a racist punk. If the kid had been white or latino he never wouldve followed.
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          • Bruce Norris
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-17-13
            • 150

            #6
            Originally posted by Kermit
            Not only that, but the media also blew this entire thing up purely based on them thinking that Zimmerman was a white guy. If the media knew that Zimmerman was Hispanic, no one outside of the people involved would have ever heard of this case.

            The way that the media edited photos, videos, and the 911 call to meet their needs was absolutely sickening.
            Absolutely correct. The medias initial portrayal of Zimmerman as "white" was flat out wrong. GZ was crucified right off the bat. This guy's life is ruined no matter what happens. I hate the liberal media.
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            • Kermit
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              • 09-27-10
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              #7
              Originally posted by Smoke
              He killed a black kid cause hes a racist punk. If the kid had been white or latino he never wouldve followed.
              I don't know about that. A few years prior to this happening, Zimmerman led a campaign against a white cop's son who sucker punched a black man on the street. Now if Zimmerman was truly a racist, why would he have even cared? You are right if Trayvon was white that he wouldn't have been bothered, but the people who were robbing houses in that area(which is what got Zimmerman head of the watch in the first place) were not white, they were black.
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              • Kermit
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                #8
                Here is the sucker punching video.

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                • itchypickle
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                  • 11-05-09
                  • 21452

                  #9
                  Zimmerman walks.
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                  • PhillyFlyers
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-27-11
                    • 8245

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Smoke
                    He killed a black kid cause hes a racist punk. If the kid had been white or latino he never wouldve followed.
                    If the kid has been white, he most likely would not have been a hoodlum, thus no reason to follow him.
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                    • Smoke
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-09-09
                      • 48111

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                      If the kid has been white, he most likely would not have been a hoodlum, thus no reason to follow him.
                      yea ok so white people dont break into houses yea ok. All he had on him was skittles and a cell phone talking to his gf and the big mixed bully wanted to pick a fight with a kid
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                      • PhillyFlyers
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                        • 09-27-11
                        • 8245

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Smoke
                        yea ok so white people dont break into houses yea ok. All he had on him was skittles and a cell phone talking to his gf and the big mixed bully wanted to pick a fight with a kid
                        Statistically, whites do not commit nearly the same level of violent crimes as blacks. It gets even more embarrassing when you factor in population totals.

                        The fact is, the reason GZ was on patrol was because the neighborhood had recently been victimized several times by blacks. That is why GZ followed the hoodlum.
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                        • Smoke
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                          • 10-09-09
                          • 48111

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                          Statistically, whites do not commit nearly the same level of violent crimes as blacks. It gets even more embarrassing when you factor in population totals.

                          The fact is, the reason GZ was on patrol was because the neighborhood had recently been victimized several times by blacks. That is why GZ followed the hoodlum.
                          and so its ok to shoot and kill an innocent kid who did nothing wrong?
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                          • Kermit
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                            #14
                            Zimmerman wasn't actually even on patrol that night. He was on his way either to or from a store.
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                            • Kermit
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                              • 09-27-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Smoke
                              and so its ok to shoot and kill an innocent kid who did nothing wrong?
                              That is the thing, the kid wasn't originally doing anything wrong and was profiled by Z and then apparently(according to Martin's "girlfriend") Z asked him what he was doing and then the phone call ended. So it doesn't seem that Z confronted the kid in a violent manner. But no one really knows what happened other than Z.
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                              • Kermit
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                                • 09-27-10
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                                #16
                                We have a watch here and at night kids(black and white) get questioned often, and I have yet to hear of any of them attacking anyone violently. If they are not doing anything wrong, there is no problem.
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                                • PaperTrail07
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                                  • 08-29-08
                                  • 20423

                                  #17
                                  coinflip case....imo....
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                                  • TheRifleman
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                                    • 08-30-12
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                                    #18
                                    Zimmerman was only defending himself against the punk, the "Stand your ground against thugs", law will get him off.

                                    He will walk....100% guaranteed.
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                                    • Smoke
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                                      • 10-09-09
                                      • 48111

                                      #19
                                      Rolls reversed if it was a black guy who shot a white kid the black guy would be in jail right now for life possible death penalty too
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        • 08-29-08
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                                        #20
                                        not if they were in a black neighborhood smoke....cause then, nobody saw nuffin mane....
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                                        • TheRifleman
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                                          • 08-30-12
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                                          #21
                                          I contributed $1000 to his online defense fund last year.
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                                          • GUMMO77
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                                            • 08-23-10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                            Zimmerman was only defending himself against the punk, the "Stand your ground against thugs", law will get him off.

                                            He will walk....100% guaranteed.
                                            I don't think they're using "Stand Your Ground" as a defense.
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                                            • Kermit
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                              I don't think they're using "Stand Your Ground" as a defense.
                                              You're right, they're not. They are just going with Self Defense.
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                                              • Gonz312
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-22-11
                                                • 1467

                                                #24
                                                Was he in the wrong...yeah, was it self defense from a kid beating his ass...probably

                                                Why does the media continue to use a 12 yr old kids photo instead of a current one of a kid who is pretty much taller than most grown men..hysterical
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                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 13253

                                                  #25
                                                  You can just stalk whoever you want claiming they are "suspicious" to you, then shoot them if/when they punch you, claiming self defense

                                                  Funny world
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                                                  • pulledclear
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                                                    • 02-19-12
                                                    • 6684

                                                    #26
                                                    Of course he is wrong. He should have dumped his body in a dumpster along ANY MLK jr blvd in America and NO ONE would have batted an eyelash. Business as usual. FACT.
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                                                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 13024

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                                      I contributed $1000 to his online defense fund last year.
                                                      Sure you did. The forum's new ttwarrior.

                                                      op nailed the entire case.
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                                                      • SamDiamond
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                                                        • 10-19-12
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                                        I contributed $1000 to his online defense fund last year.
                                                        Why? Were you soliciting him for a blowjob?
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                                                        • Kermit
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                                                          • 09-27-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Zimmerman sure did get fat.
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                                                          • GUMMO77
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                                                            • 08-23-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                            You can just stalk whoever you want claiming they are "suspicious" to you, then shoot them if/when they punch you, claiming self defense

                                                            Funny world
                                                            Exactly!

                                                            Keys to a legal killing (at least in Florida):

                                                            1. Stalk.

                                                            2. When told to stop stalking, refuse to listen.

                                                            3. Get out of car and confront individual you are stalking.

                                                            4. Lose fight to stalker (this is key).

                                                            5. Fire gun at the individual you stalked and were losing a fight to.

                                                            6. Claim self-defense.
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                                                            • sourtwist
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                                                              • 11-10-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Damn...smoke and gummo are two very naive and irrational people.
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                                                              • agharah1
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                                                                • 09-07-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                When Zimmerman disobeyed the cops by leaving going after him, that made him the instigator. He is ultimately to blame for everything that happened after that. Even if Trayvon did jump him, beat him, and try to take his gun away, its because he thought Zimmerman was stalking him. Had Trayvon killed Zimmerman with Zimmermans' gun, *that* would have been self defense.
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                                                                • pulledclear
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                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 6684

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Tray VONNNNN was leaving Bible study he had EVERY right and reason to be in that neighborhood!
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                                                                  • gomiamigo
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 08-07-08
                                                                    • 360

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bruce Norris
                                                                    He probably made a poor decision by following Trayvon. We'll never know what really happened. However, the media's portrayal of Travyvon was ridiculous. Poor kid, right? Yeah, right. Dude was a hoodlum, period. It does look to me like he was beating on GZ, and if he shot him in self defense while fearing for his life, it's his right. Could this have been avoided? Probably. Does it make him guilty of murder? No.
                                                                    I agree...except for the part that says I can't walk around my own neighborhood at night without it being a 'poor decision'. GTFO with that.

                                                                    We do pretty much know what happened. There are witnesses, and some audio. If you merely listen to the media talking about St. Trayvon, you may get confused but it's not like they went to a David Copperfield show and disappeared forever.
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                                                                    • TheRifleman
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                                                                      • 08-30-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pulledclear
                                                                      Of course he is wrong. He should have dumped his body in a dumpster along ANY MLK jr blvd in America and NO ONE would have batted an eyelash. Business as usual. FACT.
                                                                      really can't argue with that
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