i have friends ask me all the time to place bets for them.
LOL @ you having friends.
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thetrinity
SBR Posting Legend
01-25-11
22430
#458
cut..................
time for act 2 boys let this die down then come back strong tomorrow
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Sbot420
SBR MVP
04-03-11
2183
#459
I should add that i "knew" guys that did make a cpl surprise visits to people that owed and made them give nice things they had as partial payment. Catch em in their house shoes on their way to the grocery store to pick up milk. lol Didnt pwad have a laptop and flat screen tv and prob other nice items? Surely he has some property to give up. He was in a fancy apt in Chicago which isn't cheap.
And also the for the most part I don't think the police care about some kid coming to them with info on illegal betting. He doesn't know real names or addresses and really he cant implicate Griz or really prove anything even with text messages bc its hear say and could have been online gambling/gambling for potato chips etc... Griz would have to roll on the book...I'm sure they have more important things to do than worry about some D-bag that lost 12 dimes and cant pay.
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mynameismud
SBR Hall of Famer
02-13-12
5461
#460
griz keeps saying how dumb he is and picker keeps joking around with him. well done boys. 14 pages in a few hours.
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borednaz
SBR MVP
08-28-10
3809
#461
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
If this story were true, you really think a 'contract' based on illegal activity would hold up in court?
Actually Picker, you must be a horrible law student pal. All contracts are legally enforceable regardless of intent unless persuasion or coercion is involved. You party A implied the intent to have Party B (Griz) loan you money on credit. Griz accepted and applied the credit on your favor.
The only points for consideration are does he have proof of the initial request, proof of the offer being accepted, and of course due notice that he informed you of the final status of the offer. In other words did he say yes, did place the bet with your knowledge, and did he inform you of the bet being finalized.
I could loan a crackhead $50k, get them to sign the contract, with full knowledge the money is for crack. The only consideration I have to pay is to what I'm offering in my terms is from a legal source and if the crackhead is currently high or on withdrawals enough to fall under the category of undue duress. If Griz had said oh let me take my winnings from sports betting & bet for you on your request. Then the contract is null/void.
To bad this story is a lie.
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griz
SBR MVP
01-27-11
3647
#462
Profane reality take your detective bullshit to law and order svu rooster sucker
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#463
Originally posted by borednaz
Actually Picker, you must be a horrible law student pal. All contracts are legally enforceable regardless of intent unless persuasion or coercion is involved. You party A implied the intent to have Party B (Griz) loan you money on credit. Griz accepted and applied the credit on your favor.
The only points for consideration are does he have proof of the initial request, proof of the offer being accepted, and of course due notice that he informed you of the final status of the offer. In other words did he say yes, did place the bet with your knowledge, and did he inform you of the bet being finalized.
I could loan a crackhead $50k, get them to sign the contract, with full knowledge the money is for crack. The only consideration I have to pay is to what I'm offering in my terms is from a legal source and if the crackhead is currently high or on withdrawals enough to fall under the category of undue duress. If Griz had said oh let me take my winnings from sports betting & bet for you on your request. Then the contract is null/void.
To bad this story is a lie.
You can't have a legally enforceable contract that is based in illegalities. C'mon now.
I mean, just think. Seriously - that is all it take.
"There Judge hereby orders PWAD to continue his illegal activites, blah blah blah" - not real life.
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#464
Man, if illegal contracts were legally enforceable, nobody would do anything legally.
Imagine a prostitute takes a trick to court because she was shorted $20 from the price of the contract. Imagine a crackhead going to court, claiming someone isn't providing him enough crack based on the contract between him and his dealer.
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PickWinnerAllDay
SBR Posting Legend
08-31-11
12722
#465
Originally posted by ChalkyDog
You can't have a legally enforceable contract that is based in illegalities. C'mon now.
I mean, just think. Seriously - that is all it take.
"There Judge hereby orders PWAD to continue his illegal activites, blah blah blah" - not real life.
That guy is an idiot.
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opie1988
SBR Posting Legend
09-12-10
23429
#466
I still believe Griz told me the truth. There's no way he could act like he did on the phone if this was made up.
What would they stand to gain by making all this up?
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spankie
SBR Hall of Famer
02-10-11
9992
#467
Originally posted by opie1988
Coming from a 40 year old mod on tinychat, who's claim to fame is being known as the biggest pothead on an Internet forum.
Yeah....I'm the jackass.
might want to re-check your facts shit licker.
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ProfaneReality
SBR Hall of Famer
04-14-09
7607
#468
Originally posted by griz
Profane reality take your detective bullshit to law and order svu rooster sucker
Griz, you forfeited your right to talk tough on here when you admitted you are a pussy in real life and wouldn't do anything to anyone.
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Sbot420
SBR MVP
04-03-11
2183
#469
Originally posted by InTheDrink
except no one read it
Thats ok if you didn't read it pal. It wasn't for you
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griz
SBR MVP
01-27-11
3647
#470
Walking into appointment. Adress this later
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#471
Borednaz that is a good explanation but i'm not sure it's 100% accurate.
I thought a contract had to have 4 elements to be enforceable, one of which was legality. "contracts that involve illegal activity are Neither binding nor enforceable in court".
Whether the contract contains many pages of details or just a few lines of text, all contracts must have the same basic elements to be legally binding and enforceable. Both verbal and written contracts must involve a mutual agreement between parties and involve only legal activities with achievable terms. Contracts ...
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no gnu taxes
SBR Wise Guy
08-18-11
805
#472
Of all the dumb threads I've seen on this forum, this one has to rank....somewhere in the middle.
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Roxxyfish
SBR Posting Legend
06-26-09
12066
#473
Originally posted by griz
Guys I know im a fukking retard. Always have been. I'm dumb as a fukking brick. But I am fukking loyal. Loyal to a fault. I was dumb as fukk, without a doubt. Dumb enough to cost me 12k.
what took so long to figure out?
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PickWinnerAllDay
SBR Posting Legend
08-31-11
12722
#474
Originally posted by opie1988
I still believe Griz told me the truth. There's no way he could act like he did on the phone if this was made up.
What would they stand to gain by making all this up?
opie, you're full of shit pal. No offense to you, you're just too old to be doing this online posting thing.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#475
Originally posted by opie1988
I still believe Griz told me the truth. There's no way he could act like he did on the phone if this was made up.
What would they stand to gain by making all this up?
Les why would he call you????????????
It does not make sense
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spankie
SBR Hall of Famer
02-10-11
9992
#476
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
opie, you're full of shit pal. No offense to you, you're just too old to be doing this online posting thing.
full of shit is an understatement.
opie is covered in shit.
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#477
Originally posted by no gnu taxes
Of all the dumb threads I've seen on this forum, this one has to rank....somewhere in the middle.
... and easily at the bottom of your threads.
But, this was an original thought.
BTW - I am fukkin' with you, no need to take this seriously. I am attempting to avoid doing real work until 6am manana.
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paco
SBR Aristocracy
05-07-09
62873
#478
Get Harvey Spector on this.
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11641
#479
Originally posted by opie1988
I still believe Griz told me the truth. There's no way he could act like he did on the phone if this was made up.
What would they stand to gain by making all this up?
6,137 views and counting
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opie1988
SBR Posting Legend
09-12-10
23429
#480
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
opie, you're full of shit pal. No offense to you, you're just too old to be doing this online posting thing.
And you're too stupid to think everyone would buy your act continuously.
Seems we all have our shortcomings.
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ProfaneReality
SBR Hall of Famer
04-14-09
7607
#481
Griz's ex just posted a new pic on her facebook page, she moves fast.
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PickWinnerAllDay
SBR Posting Legend
08-31-11
12722
#482
Originally posted by opie1988
And you're too stupid to think everyone would buy your act continuously.
Seems we all have our shortcomings.
Intelligence, as I've found out the last few weeks, comes in many shapes/forms. That being said, if you want to put it onto paper in the form of an IQ/standardized test, you'd get your tall, goofy ass destroyed... so why venture down this path?
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Mikeyanks23
SBR MVP
11-30-10
4517
#483
Originally posted by paco
Get Harvey Spector on this.
Guy never loses a case. Best close in the biz
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opie1988
SBR Posting Legend
09-12-10
23429
#484
Originally posted by spankie
full of shit is an understatement.
opie is covered in shit.
You better go check tinychat, pal. Someone may have logged on!
Spankie....remember when you got banned from here for being a total douche? Remember how you cries like a bitch for fukkin weeks on end because your entire life consisted of an Internet forum??
Spanks....tell us again how much of a bigshot businessman you are in Nebraska. Puff
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spankie
SBR Hall of Famer
02-10-11
9992
#485
Originally posted by opie1988
You better go check tinychat, pal. Someone may have logged on!
Spankie....remember when you got banned from here for being a total douche? Remember how you cries like a bitch for fukkin weeks on end because your entire life consisted of an Internet forum??
Spanks....tell us again how much of a bigshot businessman you are in Nebraska. Puff
choose your words wisely opie.
last warning.
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Sbot420
SBR MVP
04-03-11
2183
#486
Originally posted by opie1988
I still believe Griz told me the truth. There's no way he could act like he did on the phone if this was made up.
What would they stand to gain by making all this up?
NOT PAYING without penalty is what they stand to gain. I've seen two of my good friends do the dam near exact same thing to a bookie. They came up with this elaborate story, sprinkled in stories of detectives asking questions and it was all the book needed to bounce from the situation. They didn't have to pay the 4dimes they lost and didn't have to worry about it. I'm not saying that's what happened but I sat in a small dive bar for 4-5 hours a day with a dinosaur of a bookie and all he did was tell me about the business. We would sit there and shoot the shit and he put me up on game. Before he became my partner it was just me w around 10 players and he would literally tell me what these guys would do and say and without missing a beat they would do and say all of it. I learned how to manage players. If you dont manage them they will fukk themselves and then fukk you.
just sayin ---(not tryin to be a know it all just been in unique situations and learned from them)
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daneblazer
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
09-14-08
27861
#487
Originally posted by opie1988
So, needless to say, Griz is seriously upset about all this. He asked me my thoughts, and I explained to him that his only course of action is to talk directly to the bookie. Explain the exact situation to him, and see if he will let him set up a payment plan. If the guy is any type of businessman, he will see that this is the best solution.
Haven't read past the first page...but do this. I worked for a local back in the day and worked some on the "settling up" end. I don't know what kind of person this book guy is, but talk to him directly and explain the situation. The guy I worked for would probably set up a plan and give him a break if he had a good enough relationship with him.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#488
Opie your one of the oldest guys here do you realize this??????????
Grizzly just happens to guess Opies number and calls him crying
Is Grizzly the biggest pussy on the site now?????
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hels
SBR Hall of Famer
04-12-09
8767
#489
Remember how griz said he would post pics from his droid... ya he sure delivered those.
PWAD wouldn't be acting so casually if this were true -- he hasn't said anything in a serious nature, just claimed he's going to Vegas.
Opie is now defending himself -- saying "it must be true because of how griz sounded!!!!" Opie knows this is making him look bad
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#490
Originally posted by spankie
choose your words wisely opie.
last warning.
SBR, where guys put their buddies in debt 12K and laugh about it the next day (literally) and internet shit talking is givin' warnings.
Unreal.
I find high entertainment value in this for another 12 minutes.