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  • ericc
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    • 08-05-08
    • 8278

    #1
    Govt Shutdown Continues Record Run
    The longest government shutdown in U.S. history. Cable news shows display clocks announcing the all time record down to the second.

    On Sunday, Illinois Senator Dick Durbin made the following comment on “Face the Nation” I can’t say that we’re close, because the president has made it clear he doesn’t care. He’s prepared to see a shutdown for months and even said years, and reaffirmed that before the cameras.

    Certain offices of USDA’s Farm Service Agency across the country will be open on Jan. 17, 18 and 22 to help farmers with existing loans and tax paperwork, the department said.

    In recent days, agencies have called back to work thousands of furloughed federal employees, restarted services and pursued key policies at shuttered agencies. The activity has legal experts, administration officials and veterans of past shutdowns questioning what actually constitutes a government shutdown if the administration can simply resurrect its preferred services and à la carte policy to-do list nearly a month after funding technically expired for several agencies.



    House Democrats said the Interior Department's decision to call furloughed employees back to work on offshore drilling efforts during the government shutdown appears to be illegal and demanded an end to the activity.

    President Donald Trump’s administration will have the option to lay off all furloughed government workers after their furlough reaches 30 days.

    President Trump can save taxpayers more than $1 billion per week if he lays off the approximately 800,000 non-essential government workers who are not getting paid. That would save enough money to cover the cost of Trump’s wall in six weeks, or three pay periods.

    While it was a bit of a different circumstance, Ronald Reagan fired 11,000 striking air traffic controllers on Aug. 5, 1981. No one expected the backup plan of using supervisors, 2,000 nonstriking controllers and 900 military controllers to work. But it worked well enough and there were plenty of people who lined up for a chance at a high paying job like this.

    Is President Trump capable of doing such a thing? Of course he is!

    The Democrats in Congress might care a bit particularly if a measly $5B might mean that these 800,000 people get their jobs back.
  • VeggieDog
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-21-09
    • 7214

    #2
    Hasn't affected me or mine at all. Keep it shut down.
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    • d2bets
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-10-05
      • 39995

      #3
      Originally posted by VeggieDog
      Hasn't affected me or mine at all. Keep it shut down.
      How selfless of you.
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      • brooks85
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-05-09
        • 44709

        #4
        Originally posted by d2bets
        How selfless of you.
        says the pos who supported an illegal bill forcefully passed by obama
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        • RoyBacon
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          • 09-21-05
          • 37074

          #5
          President Trump can save taxpayers more than $1 billion per week if he lays off the approximately 800,000 non-essential government workers who are not getting paid. That would save enough money to cover the cost of Trump’s wall in six weeks, or three pay periods.
          I'm telling ya, we could get rid of our deficit! I'm a small gov guy so this is paradise!
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          • ericc
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-05-08
            • 8278

            #6
            Some Democrat lawmakers are losing their will to fight

            Freshman Rep. Jared Golden (D-Me.), is urging his party’s leaders to negotiate with Trump and the Republicans. Democrat leaders and Trump need “to stop hiding and show a little leadership” to bring the longest-lasting federal government shutdown in the nation’s history to an end, he said.

            Freshman Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.) said “there’s a number of us on the Democratic side who are quite concerned that we’re not working on negotiated positions and taking the bull by the horns and trying to think about what it would look like.”

            Freshman Rep. Max Rose (D-N.Y.) told local media he was “sick and tired” of government shutdowns being used “as a form of brinksmanship—a tool of negotiation.”

            “All we’ve done in the House is repass the Senate bill,” he said. “Now that will allow us some freedom, some space, some real debate. The Senate though has to show their independence. I just got out of a bruising fight with my House leadership … Let’s open the government back up and let’s get back to work.”

            Freshman Rep. Anthony Brindisi (D-N.Y.), acknowledged he has been defying Pelosi and negotiating directly with GOP lawmakers.

            “I’ve been meeting with several representatives from across the country, both Democrats and Republicans,” Brindisi said. “And I’ve been trying to force leadership on both sides of the aisle to work out a compromise to this shutdown.”

            “If you listen to all the experts, they’ll say some elements of physical barriers where it makes sense are in order,” he said. “We need more border agents, we need more technology at our border crossings and ports of entries so trucks and shipping containers are inspected before coming into our country.”

            Freshman Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), is taking heat from her constituents.

            “If I am getting comments and contact from my constituents expressing concern that the Democrats are not prioritizing security, then I think we can do better,” she said.



            Freshman Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), said he would consider supporting appropriations needed to build the wall.

            “I’m not going to rule anything out, I really am not,” he said.

            Freshman Rep. Lucy McBath (D-Ga.), said she is optimistic a deal can be brokered.

            “I hope that we can all come to a compromise because that’s the way things get done,” she said. “If we don’t compromise, the American people are the ones who get hurt. Right now, they are hanging in the balance.”

            Freshman Rep. Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.) said he would vote for wall funding.

            “If I had the opportunity to vote for some sort of a deal, I would,” he said. “I think if we work on the border security, in my opinion, the president would be willing to work on some of these other issues.”

            Rep. Ami Bera (D-Calif.) told Vice News that plenty of Democrats outside the freshman cohort are bucking Pelosi’s refusal to negotiate.

            “I think we all want to see DACA protections, so I think there’s an opportunity to, if they give something — it’s called negotiation, right?” Bera said. “Give us a chance to protect the Dreamers; maybe we can give something on border security.”

            Some in the House Democrat leadership are also diverging from Pelosi’s position.

            Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) said some kind of border barrier is necessary.

            “If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Bustos, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN last week.

            Rep. Katherine Clark (D-Mass.), vice chairman of the House Democrat conference, said on MSNBC that a barrier of some kind would work in parts of the U.S.-Mexico border. “You know, I think there are parts of the border that would benefit from repairing fencing and other barricades that already exist there,” she said.
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            • The Kraken
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              • 12-25-11
              • 28918

              #7
              Originally posted by d2bets
              How selfless of you.
              He’s been fired from every job he’s ever had, what do you expect? You just know he’s a giant piece of shit in real life. I’ve never met anyone successful thats been fired multiple times, nor had so much hatred in their life that they dont care about other people suffering. 100% loser
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              • Russian Rocket
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-02-12
                • 43910

                #8
                Originally posted by The Kraken
                He’s been fired from every job he’s ever had, what do you expect? You just know he’s a giant piece of shit in real life. I’ve never met anyone successful thats been fired multiple times, nor had so much hatred in their life that they dont care about other people suffering. 100% loser
                That's a lot of venom right there


                Kraken call me!
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                • ericc
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-05-08
                  • 8278

                  #9
                  Is shutdown merely a ploy to make the federal government smaller?

                  Then it seems that laying off or forcing government workers to work with no pay is not a “problem,” it’s actually a solution to big government.



                  If you want to shrink big government a shutdown is just what the doctor ordered. So are a budget deficit and an exploding national debt. “How so?” you ask.

                  The answer is that the bigger the deficit and the bigger the national debt the more unsustainable big government becomes. It’s like a company that is bled of funding, loaded with impossible debt and then shut down. There is no other explanation to the runaway deficit and debt train that is rushing down a hill to catastrophe.




                  You don't think President Trump is smart enough to figure this out, do you?
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                  • rkelly110
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                    • 10-05-09
                    • 39691

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ericc
                    Then it seems that laying off or forcing government workers to work with no pay is not a “problem,” it’s actually a solution to big government.



                    If you want to shrink big government a shutdown is just what the doctor ordered. So are a budget deficit and an exploding national debt. “How so?” you ask.

                    The answer is that the bigger the deficit and the bigger the national debt the more unsustainable big government becomes. It’s like a company that is bled of funding, loaded with impossible debt and then shut down. There is no other explanation to the runaway deficit and debt train that is rushing down a hill to catastrophe.




                    You don't think President Trump is smart enough to figure this out, do you?
                    President smart?...................
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                    • Venom72
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-05-16
                      • 2041

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                      He’s been fired from every job he’s ever had, what do you expect? You just know he’s a giant piece of shit in real life. I’ve never met anyone successful thats been fired multiple times, nor had so much hatred in their life that they dont care about other people suffering. 100% loser
                      Lmao
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                      • VeggieDog
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-21-09
                        • 7214

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                        He’s been fired from every job he’s ever had, what do you expect? You just know he’s a giant piece of shit in real life. I’ve never met anyone successful thats been fired multiple times, nor had so much hatred in their life that they dont care about other people suffering. 100% loser
                        So far I'm beating cancer, so not 100% yet.
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                        • Venom72
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-05-16
                          • 2041

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VeggieDog
                          So far I'm beating cancer, so not 100% yet.
                          Good for u, still a bitch
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                          • The Kraken
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-25-11
                            • 28918

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VeggieDog
                            So far I'm beating cancer, so not 100% yet.
                            Then you’re either a troll or a hypocrite, gotcha
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                            • chico2663
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                              • 09-02-10
                              • 36915

                              #15
                              well since a.c.a is dead you better stay with your coverage.There isn't an insurer that will mess with you for 5 years. Better pay that cobra payment.
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                              • The Kraken
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                                • 12-25-11
                                • 28918

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Venom72
                                Good for u, still a bitch


                                exactly
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                                • VeggieDog
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-21-09
                                  • 7214

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                  Then you’re either a troll or a hypocrite, gotcha
                                  Kraken, we've talked about my cancer before. Why you hatin' today?
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                                  • VeggieDog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-21-09
                                    • 7214

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                    well since a.c.a is dead you better stay with your coverage.There isn't an insurer that will mess with you for 5 years. Better pay that cobra payment.
                                    Cobra? Who the hell can afford cobra? I've got a private plan that I pay for out-of-pocket. Plus isn't cobra only available for 18 months after you quit work? I've been retired for 7 years.
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                                    • chico2663
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 09-02-10
                                      • 36915

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ericc
                                      The longest government shutdown in U.S. history. Cable news shows display clocks announcing the all time record down to the second.

                                      On Sunday, Illinois Senator Dick Durbin made the following comment on “Face the Nation” I can’t say that we’re close, because the president has made it clear he doesn’t care. He’s prepared to see a shutdown for months and even said years, and reaffirmed that before the cameras.

                                      Certain offices of USDA’s Farm Service Agency across the country will be open on Jan. 17, 18 and 22 to help farmers with existing loans and tax paperwork, the department said.

                                      In recent days, agencies have called back to work thousands of furloughed federal employees, restarted services and pursued key policies at shuttered agencies. The activity has legal experts, administration officials and veterans of past shutdowns questioning what actually constitutes a government shutdown if the administration can simply resurrect its preferred services and à la carte policy to-do list nearly a month after funding technically expired for several agencies.



                                      House Democrats said the Interior Department's decision to call furloughed employees back to work on offshore drilling efforts during the government shutdown appears to be illegal and demanded an end to the activity.

                                      President Donald Trump’s administration will have the option to lay off all furloughed government workers after their furlough reaches 30 days.

                                      President Trump can save taxpayers more than $1 billion per week if he lays off the approximately 800,000 non-essential government workers who are not getting paid. That would save enough money to cover the cost of Trump’s wall in six weeks, or three pay periods.

                                      While it was a bit of a different circumstance, Ronald Reagan fired 11,000 striking air traffic controllers on Aug. 5, 1981. No one expected the backup plan of using supervisors, 2,000 nonstriking controllers and 900 military controllers to work. But it worked well enough and there were plenty of people who lined up for a chance at a high paying job like this.

                                      Is President Trump capable of doing such a thing? Of course he is!

                                      The Democrats in Congress might care a bit particularly if a measly $5B might mean that these 800,000 people get their jobs back.
                                      Remember it well. What they never told anyone is that they paid for these guys college. Next door neighbor became a c.p.a. and made hell of lot more loot.
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                                      • chico2663
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                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 36915

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                        Cobra? Who the hell can afford cobra? I've got a private plan that I pay for out-of-pocket. Plus isn't cobra only available for 18 months after you quit work? I've been retired for 7 years.
                                        medicare?
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                                        • VeggieDog
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-21-09
                                          • 7214

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                          medicare?
                                          I'm not old enough yet.
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                                          • rkelly110
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 10-05-09
                                            • 39691

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                            So far I'm beating cancer, so not 100% yet.
                                            Godspeed my friend.
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