how are the Orioles going to be in first place?

[BuddyBear]

-19 run differential in the AL East and they are going to be 76-59 after tonight and in first place tied with the Yankees. They should be 6 games under .500. Talk about major overachieving. Team to fade next year.

[acl123]

Buck ball

[BuddyBear]

ahh, this explains: 24-7 in 1 run games.

In other words, extremely lucky.

[Rich Boy]

All luck

Run differential is the best indicator of team strength.

[BuddyBear]

Now, the question is: Does Buck Showalter know that his team is really not that good?

[Rich Boy]

Just a matter of time before they fade away. One small losing streak and they are toast.

[HoulihansTX]

All of the players that matter in the Yankees lineup are INJ.

[lakerboy]

Gonna win it all.

[Chi_archie]

yeah just flukey close game wins and blows out when they lose

[InTheDrink]

i posted about their run differential a few days ago...is it too late to fade the THIS year? cant imagine with changing rosters and what not that the regression would roll over to next year

[cboogie]

Looks like some money losers hating. Go O's.

[face]

it's not all luck. some of it's luck, but when they're getting blown out showalter trots out the loser bullpen guys, and when it's a close one run game he has guys that can perform.

[InTheDrink]

it's not all luck. some of it's luck, but when they're getting blown out showalter trots out the loser bullpen guys, and when it's a close one run game he has guys that can perform.

so does every other team

[Boner_18]

Well when you have a better w-L record than the other teams in your division you are in first place. You see, it's a ranking by this stat. Thats how. GL.

[LT Profits]

And they still draw 15,000 fans

[LT Profits]

Well when you have a better w-L record than the other teams in your division you are in first place. You see, it's a ranking by this stat. Thats how. GL.

We are talking from a gambling point of view though. The O's are simply not that good.

[SportsPedagogy]

We are talking from a gambling point of view though. The O's are simply not that good.

I love ya buddy, but, when talking gambling point of view, THE O'S ARE THE BEST DAMN TEAM IN BASEBALL BY FAR.

If you bet to win 100 when they O's were favs and bet 100 each time they were dogs, you would have

3019 .. 2nd place would be oakland at 2678 .. then washington at 2403 ans Cincy at 2008 ... no other team is above 2000.

I can only imagine what a burial fading one of those teams would be.

[Chi_archie]

good stuff sports ped

[Boner_18]

We are talking from a gambling point of view though. The O's are simply not that good.

I kno LT. Just bustin.. Carry on

[Boner_18]

Ive got an OS future at +25000 btw.... Gambollllllll

[alling]

O's overall run differential are skewed because they got blown out of a lot of ball games in the early season when their young pitchers where still developing. Better question would be whats their dun differential recently? Britton, Tillman and Gonzalez have been lights out recently. Chen has been solid all year. Hamels comes back Thursday. Bullpen, led by Johnson, has been great all year which is why they have such a good W/L record in 1 run and extra inning games.

They out scored the Yankees 49-32 in Yankee Stadium. Or +17 run differential. One things clear. Even If yankees make the playoffs and thats a big if they wont go far.

Oh Yea and the O's have won there backers the most money this season which is all that matters in the betting world.

[LT Profits]

I love ya buddy, but, when talking gambling point of view, THE O'S ARE THE BEST DAMN TEAM IN BASEBALL BY FAR.

If you bet to win 100 when they O's were favs and bet 100 each time they were dogs, you would have

3019 .. 2nd place would be oakland at 2678 .. then washington at 2403 ans Cincy at 2008 ... no other team is above 2000.

I can only imagine what a burial fading one of those teams would be.

You are looking at it wrong, they have AT LEAST six more wins than they should have based on their Sabremetrics and they probably have the highest luck factor in baseball (which is typical since those two things usually go hand in hand).

[LT Profits]

Oh Yea and the O's have won there backers the most money this season which is all that matters in the betting world.

Again, that is because the books are hesitant to adjust their lines because they feel they have Baltimore priced correctly, knowing that their record is better than their Sabres.

[No coincidences]

This is what makes baseball both great and frustrating to watch/bet on/etc.

Balty really has no business being in the position they're in, yet they've somehow done it. There's no real way of explaining it on paper, but every year, you see fluke hitters and pitchers overachieving out of nowhere. They just happen to be doing it collectively.

Don't try to make sense out of it. Hell, Jimmy Johnson -- who couldn't even beat out Kevin fvcking Gregg as a closer last year -- has like 70 saves. But ask yourself this: would you rather see this, or the bum ass Dodgers and their trillion dollar payroll continue to underachieve and blow games?

[Al Masters]

-19 run differential in the AL East and they are going to be 76-59 after tonight and in first place tied with the Yankees. They should be 6 games under .500. Talk about major overachieving. Team to fade next year.

12-0 win last night,down to -7

[VegasInsider]

Ive got an OS future at +25000 btw.... Gambollllllll

Might as well start thinking about your hedge now...

[wtt0315]

Probably because boston sucks and the yankees have the worst pitching staff in the majors

[AlwaysDrawing]

Again, that is because the books are hesitant to adjust their lines because they feel they have Baltimore priced correctly, knowing that their record is better than their Sabres.

Also, probably because more action has been coming in against the Orioles than on them for almost the whole season.

[No coincidences]

Also, probably because more action has been coming in against the Orioles than on them for almost the whole season.

Wonder if the books get their money back tonight, because this Toronto series has torched them. They're pricing them in the + and the public is gobbling it up.

[LT Profits]

Also, probably because more action has been coming in against the Orioles than on them for almost the whole season.

Yes and it is all sharp money moving the lines these days. O's have been a thorn in sharps' sides.

[LT Profits]

Wonder if the books get their money back tonight, because this Toronto series has torched them. They're pricing them in the + and the public is gobbling it up.

Actually books did OK because I think line moved Toronto's way both games?

[lunchbawks]

Look what good relief pitching does for teams cuz o's won't outscore you

[LT Profits]

Actually books did OK because I think line moved Toronto's way both games?

Yesterday was flat, opened and closed -107 at Pinny. Monday Toronto opened -103 and closed -110. John Q. Public and 5 generations of his family was on O's but sharps were on Jays, so books did OK.

[BuddyBear]

12-0 win last night,down to -7

No, it's -19 still. I took their game against TOR into account last night. Absolutely astounding that a team with a -19 run differential is in first place in the AL East!

[AlwaysDrawing]

No, it's -19 still. I took their game against TOR into account last night. Absolutely astounding that a team with a -19 run differential is in first place in the AL East!

Yeah, but their run differential after the all star break tells a different story.

So does the Yankees.