Rigged !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pacqiao got robbed !!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • AraiWa
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    • 05-23-12
    • 288

    #281
    Originally posted by Jesus Christ
    and I apologize for my first comment...I really thought you were trolling but you are clearly not and have knowledge of boxing...and you def have the right to think Bradley won even though I don't see it as possible.
    Thing is, I had it for Pacquiao 115-113! I just think if you go round by round and watch the fight 10x, you might end up with a different score every time. This means it was/is closer than alot of people are willing to say.
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    • JMobile
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-21-10
      • 19074

      #282
      Was going to bet on Pacq, but didn't have anything left after getting buried on the Kings.
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      • Jesus Christ
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-25-11
        • 935

        #283
        Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
        Rios still trying to convince people he beat abril on youtube its hilarious. ******* chump
        I've watched that fight over 20 times...there is no dimension in where Rios won that fight
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        • visualrealism
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-13-11
          • 880

          #284
          Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
          Rios still trying to convince people he beat abril on youtube its hilarious. ******* chump
          Link??????
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          • AraiWa
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-23-12
            • 288

            #285
            Originally posted by Jesus Christ
            I've watched that fight over 20 times...there is no dimension in where Rios won that fight
            Abril got arse raped in that fight. Rios will get beat soon enough, his time is coming.
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            • visualrealism
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-13-11
              • 880

              #286
              Not even a ******* DRAW!!!!!!!! **** you judges
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              • Imsmarterthanu
                SBR MVP
                • 05-02-12
                • 1878

                #287
                Originally posted by AraiWa
                How were all three scores all over the place when two were exactly the same?!





                You're entitled to your opinion.

                So by "THIS" do you mean gambling or working in the sport?
                So you posted a picture of a rigged scorecard, that's all the evidence you have ?

                I'll take that silly piece of paper and wipe my ass with it. It proves absolutely NOTHING it's as valuable as toilet paper.

                You suck at scoring boxing, you know nothing about fighting just shut ur pie hole and stop pretending to be some expert in scoring boxing fights. This fight was as lobsided as a championship fight can be, Pacman dominated the entire fight toyed with Bradley for the majority of the rounds and made a complete joke of him. Bradley was gassed by round 5. Pathetic is the word to describe your defense.
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                • greenhippo
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-15-12
                  • 9091

                  #288
                  Originally posted by Sport_Fish
                  Doesn't matter how many people were involved in the rig...the only two parties that mattered were Vegas + Judges.

                  1 simple rig probably raked in high 10 figures.
                  I'm thinking more in the 11 digits, I told the people I talk to to not put $ on Paq, I didn't like the line beforehand. Bradley was better than the odds suggest but he lost that fight and it wasn't even close.
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                  • AraiWa
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                    • 05-23-12
                    • 288

                    #289
                    Go ahead, wipe your ass with it, it's your ass after all.

                    What it proves is that two judges scored the bout exactly the same and several rounds were, as you say, "all over the place." Just because a few rounds weren't scored the same doesn't mean a thing.

                    And as far as my knowing nothing about the sport, I'll put my boxing knowledge and experience against just about anyone. Those who truly know the sport and who know me, know I know my shit pal. Nuff said.

                    Now stop crying over all your money you lost on Pacquiao.
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                    • GOIRISH
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-25-10
                      • 2072

                      #290
                      anyone have a link to the replay? couldnt find anything on google
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                      • ApricotSinner32
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-28-10
                        • 10648

                        #291
                        No need for a replay.
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                        • Imsmarterthanu
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-02-12
                          • 1878

                          #292
                          Originally posted by AraiWa
                          Go ahead, wipe your ass with it, it's your ass after all.

                          What it proves is that two judges scored the bout exactly the same and several rounds were, as you say, "all over the place." Just because a few rounds weren't scored the same doesn't mean a thing.

                          And as far as my knowing nothing about the sport, I'll put my boxing knowledge and experience against just about anyone. Those who truly know the sport and who know me, know I know my shit pal. Nuff said.

                          Now stop crying over all your money you lost on Pacquiao.
                          no one knows you and no one cares.

                          I've been boxing since I was 5 years old I'll put my boxing knowledge against yours any day of the week. I've been watching boxing earlier than that and I can tell right off the bat you don't know shit.

                          Keep pretending you know anything about fighting, no one cares about your opinion, the fight was rigged and everyone knows it. You on the other hand are still stuck in a delusion.

                          I wipe my ass with your knowledge and your stupid piece of paper which proves nothing in reality.
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                          • Jeffie
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                            • 04-06-12
                            • 3428

                            #293
                            There was like 1000 Filipinos watching on the big screen at my local casino they cried when Manny lost.
                            not gonna lie it was pretty funny.
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                            • AraiWa
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                              • 05-23-12
                              • 288

                              #294
                              Well, in this case my knowledge happened to match with two of the judges.

                              Your statement that "the fight was rigged and everyone knows it," is unproven, just like your thinking that you know more than I about boxing. So take your opinion and go ahead, wipe your ass with that scorecard. That proves everything.

                              BTW - Your username is inappropriate in this case. Perhaps you can change it? How much did you lose?

                              Originally posted by Jeffie
                              There was like 1000 Filipinos watching on the big screen at my local casino they cried when Manny lost.
                              not gonna lie it was pretty funny.
                              Yea, I take great solace in knowing that now the Pactards might relax a little. It happened to Marquez twice, now it happened to their hero. What I find even more hilarious is that they were crying! Saying anything remotely negative about Pacquiao is considered sacrilegious to them. That's why it's a sport, fighters must win and fighters must lose, and once in a while, they get draws. So today, Pacquiao lost. Get over it.
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                              • AribaAriba
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-03-09
                                • 2922

                                #295
                                lost in the eyes of judges but believe by many that he won. get over with marquez, he lost twice and he cant achieved what pac had in his career.
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                                • Lakers714
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-17-09
                                  • 4671

                                  #296
                                  U r too funny. Manny lost the decision but did not lose the fight. U obviously know very little about the Filipino culture. Manny is their hero, why is it so funny people were crying when he lost? What's your nationality?
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                                  • Lakers714
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-17-09
                                    • 4671

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by AribaAriba
                                    lost in the eyes of judges but believe by many that he won.
                                    You beat me to the punch. Well said.
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                                    • Imsmarterthanu
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-02-12
                                      • 1878

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by AraiWa
                                      Well, in this case my knowledge happened to match with two of the judges.

                                      Your statement that "the fight was rigged and everyone knows it," is unproven, just like your thinking that you know more than I about boxing. So take your opinion and go ahead, wipe your ass with that scorecard. That proves everything.

                                      BTW - Your username is inappropriate in this case. Perhaps you can change it? How much did you lose?


                                      Originally posted by AraiWa
                                      I'm sure Bradley will be in the best shape physically and mentally of his boxing career. I doubt Manny will walk over him like he did Hatton. Anything can happen but if you think he'll win that easily, bet the under.
                                      Says the so called expert

                                      Dude you suck and lol at your defense. Oh 2 of the incompetent judges scored it the same way I did I guess I'm an expert lol

                                      Please kid, just stop embarassing yourself, and yes everyone thinks the fight was fixed and the decision was absolute bullshit. Get your eyes checked and take a look around, everyone on the forum is on my side while you're all by your lonesome claiming your knowledge of boxing is higher than 99 % of boxing fans, espn, teddy atlas, freddy roach and emannuel stewart's .

                                      Don't kid yourself pal, you're a fukn joke. lol
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                                      • slay0r
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 09-17-11
                                        • 89

                                        #299


                                        Notice how brian kenny mentions that Bradley could very well win this fight ? (well before the decision was announced) He wasnt suprised at all either... HBO needs to take the **** out of their mouth. I agree manyy could have won it, should have, but the judges felt other wise..
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                                        • AraiWa
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                                          • 05-23-12
                                          • 288

                                          #300
                                          Not only did Brian Kenny think he won, so did Thomas Hauser. I'm sure there are others that will make their case for Bradley shortly.

                                          As far as laughing at the crying Filipinos, I don't mean to be cruel. I understand Pacquiao is their hero and his fights are more than just sport. But he lost on the judges score cards, the only place it counts. Boxing is subjective, just like Gymnastics. The whole "Manny Pacquiao is my hero" bit has more to do with poor Filipino's desperation to achieve than the realities of sport in general. Most boxers earn peanuts just like those living in the PI; Pacquiao has done far better than anyone can hope and Filipino's should be proud of his accomplishments. He's an all-time great but he lost, and despite what one particular poster may think, until proven otherwise he lost fair and square. Just like Marquez. I don't think he won but he got the W's in their fights, not Marquez.

                                          At the end of the day, like I said, there has to be a winner and a loser. He lost, he'll get over it, so should his fans. If he fights again like he did tonight, which is ordinary, he'll lose again. So save the tears. What I hope for is that he gets out before his legacy is tarnished.

                                          BTW - Duane Ford, one of the two judges who scored the fight for Bradley, is one of the most highly respected judges in all of boxing and is the head of certification classes for judges in the US. Of course, to some idiots, this doesn't matter.
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                                          • jsmithj88
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                                            • 12-27-08
                                            • 3591

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by Jeffie
                                            There was like 1000 Filipinos watching on the big screen at my local casino they cried when Manny lost.
                                            not gonna lie it was pretty funny.
                                            ahaha, a large group of black dudes celebrated when the decision was made
                                            did the black race gained something from this travesty???
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                                            • slay0r
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 09-17-11
                                              • 89

                                              #302
                                              Yeah right before the decision was announced HBO mentioned Duane Ford is one of the best judges out that he even teaches classes for new judges in the usa, then they act all shocked when he made the decision..

                                              I'll be honest, At first I was all like WTF? But then after watching it again, and letting it sink for a while, I can def see the fight being scored as closely as it was. The punch stat compustat hbo stuff never really mattered to me, I always wondered how can they tell if one really landed and which was a power punch, it's still human error/computer error involved.. A lot can get misconstrued by that. When we bring technology into a sport that was so based on human objectivity and judging , it really causes all this uproar in the end..

                                              It could have gone either way but bradley was defnitly bobbing and weaving well, i thought he was evading a lot Paq's punches. Paq did land some solid straight lefts though early on in the fight, after that he looked tired and not really as good as usually does.

                                              Some people need to relax and realize it wasn't a full on blowout. I didn't bet on either fighter, i'm a paq fan also but i feel the fight could have gone either way, it was def not as big a blowout as the HBO team made it seem.

                                              People don't realize that you can be easily manipulated when watching a fight based on the tone, narrative, and production of the broadcast.. all the flashy punch counters etc etc.. The bottom line lies with the guys sititng ringside, who are t rained for years to do this..
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                                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                                • 04-30-10
                                                • 27020

                                                #303
                                                hmmm... after looking thru this I am reminded why i do not give 2 shts about "boxing" and happy to say i have never laid one bet ever on a "boxing" event

                                                this is like guys who want to bet on "WWE" outcomes... really???
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                                                • AraiWa
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-23-12
                                                  • 288

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by slay0r
                                                  Yeah right before the decision was announced HBO mentioned Duane Ford is one of the best judges out that he even teaches classes for new judges in the usa, then they act all shocked when he made the decision..

                                                  I'll be honest, At first I was all like WTF? But then after watching it again, and letting it sink for a while, I can def see the fight being scored as closely as it was. The punch stat compustat hbo stuff never really mattered to me, I always wondered how can they tell if one really landed and which was a power punch, it's still human error/computer error involved.. A lot can get misconstrued by that. When we bring technology into a sport that was so based on human objectivity and judging , it really causes all this uproar in the end..

                                                  It could have gone either way but bradley was defnitly bobbing and weaving well, i thought he was evading a lot Paq's punches. Paq did land some solid straight lefts though early on in the fight, after that he looked tired and not really as good as usually does.

                                                  Some people need to relax and realize it wasn't a full on blowout. I didn't bet on either fighter, i'm a paq fan also but i feel the fight could have gone either way, it was def not as big a blowout as the HBO team made it seem.

                                                  People don't realize that you can be easily manipulated when watching a fight based on the tone, narrative, and production of the broadcast.. all the flashy punch counters etc etc.. The bottom line lies with the guys sititng ringside, who are t rained for years to do this..
                                                  Well said.
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                                                  • Imsmarterthanu
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-02-12
                                                    • 1878

                                                    #305
                                                    That's not what happened I was watching the fight on a mexican channel I don't even speak spanish, All I saw was Bradley getting his ass beat round after round. People were hopping on Bradley that first round when he caught manny with a left hook but after that it was all pacquiao landing the power strikes. Bradley's the one who was clinching up the most and he was the one getting clipped with manny's left straight and jab round after round. By the fifth round Manny was toying with desert storm ike a cat playing with a ball of yarn. Bradley had nothing he was landing 1 strike for every 3-4 manny was landing and with fewer succession.

                                                    This is how "official" judging distorts people's reality, I guarantee you that if this fukin rigjob robbery didn't occur and manny rightfully won a unanimous decision there wouldn't be any outcry over the decision people would accept it right off the bat because that's exactly what happened Pacman won 10-11 rounds in the fight, giving even 2 rounds to Bradley would be generous. Now people hear an "official decision" and all of a sudden the reality is something different, I'm sorry but these are the same people who judge mma fights and ask each other what moves the fighters are doing because they don't know shit. People actually believe that the judge sitting at ringside watching the fight at foot level can have a better view of the fight than someone watching it in crystal clear hd video that's simply untrue and this wasn't even a flaw in perspective, it was just a classic rigjob because it wasn't even scored a draw.
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                                                    • Imsmarterthanu
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-02-12
                                                      • 1878

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by AraiWa
                                                      Well said.
                                                      Says the guy who knows nothing about boxing
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                                                      • AraiWa
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 05-23-12
                                                        • 288

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                        That's not what happened I was watching the fight on a mexican channel I don't even speak spanish, All I saw was Bradley getting his ass beat round after round. People were hopping on Bradley that first round when he caught manny with a left hook but after that it was all pacquiao landing the power strikes. Bradley's the one who was clinching up the most and he was the one getting clipped with manny's left straight and jab round after round. By the fifth round Manny was toying with desert storm ike a cat playing with a ball of yarn. Bradley had nothing he was landing 1 strike for every 3-4 manny was landing and with fewer succession.

                                                        This is how "official" judging distorts people's reality, I guarantee you that if this fukin rigjob robbery didn't occur and manny rightfully won a unanimous decision there wouldn't be any outcry over the decision people would accept it right off the bat because that's exactly what happened Pacman won 10-11 rounds in the fight, giving even 2 rounds to Bradley would be generous. Now people hear an "official decision" and all of a sudden the reality is something different, I'm sorry but these are the same people who judge mma fights and ask each other what moves the fighters are doing because they don't know shit. People actually believe that the judge sitting at ringside watching the fight at foot level can have a better view of the fight than someone watching it in crystal clear hd video that's simply untrue and this wasn't even a flaw in perspective, it was just a classic rigjob because it wasn't even scored a draw.
                                                        With logic like yours, it's no wonder you're a rocket scientist
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                                                        • STAY STRONG
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                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 2498

                                                          #308
                                                          Shots fired.
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                                                          • Imsmarterthanu
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-02-12
                                                            • 1878

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by AraiWa
                                                            With logic like yours, it's no wonder you're a rocket scientist
                                                            What does logic have to do with rocket science

                                                            Your analogy makes it evident you scored poorly on your SAT's

                                                            Your I.Q. is probably below room temperature no wonder you think Bradley won the fight
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                                                            • AraiWa
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                                                              • 05-23-12
                                                              • 288

                                                              #310
                                                              Obviously you can't hear the sarcasm in my voice, dummy.

                                                              But then what did I expect. My IQ may be low but unlike you, I'm not an anus simply to be one.

                                                              Exit, stage right, enough time wasted on this loser who calls himself "I'mdumberthanu," oops, slip of the tongue.
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                                                              • Imsmarterthanu
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-02-12
                                                                • 1878

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by AraiWa
                                                                Obviously you can't hear the sarcasm in my voice.

                                                                But then what did I expect. My IQ may be low but unlike you, I'm not an asshole simply to be one.

                                                                Exit, stage right, enough time wasted on this loser who calls himself "I'mdumberthanu," oops, slip of the tongue.
                                                                You still don't get it. I understand your sarcasm I also understand that your sarcasm is ironic in itself since your analogy doesn't make any sense.

                                                                Yet here you are still at step one still believing that your sarcasm isn't ironically idiotic.

                                                                I'm an asshole because you're a moron

                                                                does that make sense ?
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                                                                • ttwarrior1
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 06-23-09
                                                                  • 28460

                                                                  #312
                                                                  the number of non pro ghosts trolls in this thread is unreal,
                                                                  get rid of them sbr
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                                                                  • AraiWa
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 05-23-12
                                                                    • 288

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                                    You still don't get it. I understand your sarcasm I also understand that your sarcasm is ironic in itself since your analogy doesn't make any sense.

                                                                    Yet here you are still at step one still believing that your sarcasm isn't ironically idiotic.

                                                                    I'm an asshole because you're a moron

                                                                    does that make sense ?
                                                                    Stop crying...
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                                                                    • Pabinator
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                                                                      • 10-04-09
                                                                      • 1238

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Is this the worst call ive seen in boxing? NO

                                                                      Do i think Pacroid won? YES

                                                                      I dont think it was as lob sided as you think & i can see how some of the judges might of thought it was close, there was a lot of rounds that Pacroid took off early & Bradley looked like he was doing more work.
                                                                      That being said, i still think Pacroid did enough to get the win, but Arum wins in the end, both his fighters & he sets up the rematch & mayweather is out the picture
                                                                      Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                                                      • Koldazzice
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                                                                        • 11-08-11
                                                                        • 2392

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                        Bradley landed like 20 punches

                                                                        Pac like landed 150
                                                                        I Lost just over $500 on tied up parlays I didn't want to be a conspiracy guy BUT I got the fight and it taped on my DVR so decided to watch it back. Bradley maybe landed 20 effective shots maybe vs at least 70-80....seemed 1 sided live and even more 1 sided watching it back for the pac-man in a easy route...

                                                                        Some fishy stuff going on there
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