Lakers amnestying Kobe Bryant! Great move..
Get rid of the old fukker.. Kobe is D.O.N.E.!
Lakers will now get Deron Williams and will have a TON of cap space!
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Get rid of the old fukker.. Kobe is D.O.N.E.!
Lakers will now get Deron Williams and will have a TON of cap space!
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Will never happen. Odds of Kobe getting cut -50000.Comment -
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in regards to his value as a franchise player for the lakers and nba, its a bargain
but kobe is overpaid in regards to the cap, WAY overpaid
hes not even the best player in the nba anymore, hasnt been for the last couple years actually ..........Comment -
It would be a great move for LA
Who would want Kobe??Comment -
BECAUSE he is making so much it makes him impossible to trade.
Just more evidence of how the Lakers have buried themselves recently with bad contracts and thinking money grew on trees.
But sure if they could sucker someone into taking that deal it would be the best thing they could do.
But these guys are way late to the party I said this shit over a year ago and have been saying it ever since.
Also them thinking he matters off the court is a joke, Shaq was a much bigger off court presense than Kobe is or ever has been or will be. But they kicked Shaq to the curb like yesterday's garbage. So that off court nonsense is just dumb. He has been playing long enough now to not even be that big a draw, who goes to games just to see Kobe Bryant play? If he still had the draw power then you might factor that in but he doesnt and you cant. Even if he did at that price tag he would really have to have a lot of drawpower.
The way to look at it is would the Lakers still be selling out and selling season tickets and overpriced lower region tickets if Kobe was gone but the team was better? The answer is obvious. LA is a front running town, there are 'stars' walking around everywhere. So people that think 'star power' is meaningful in LA are lost. This is a front running town, you can have Kobe on a 500 team (like you did a few years ago) dropping 50 and 80 a game and people dont really care. They'll buzz about a big performance but it doesnt make them want to go see the next game in case it happens again.
Lakers are buried with this guy, thats why they will not be able to come close to competing for anything as long as he is there. The article says two years, who knows they might over pay this guy another 3-5 years just to keep him in the uniform. So two years is just the minimum of their servitude to this guy. So basically right now the Lakers are as good as they can expect to be considering the money they have invested. Unless they trade some guys for draft picks and get a superstar in the draft. Which isnt likely to happen. Thats why Lakers continually trading picks and stockpiling bad players to fill 'roles' is just bad basketball, and just adds to the list already mentioned of bad things the Lakers do.Comment -
kobe to the nets would be the only other move,,,unless phil jackson went to the knicks kobe might want to go thereComment -
change the title to april fools.Comment -
kobe still has a few good years leftComment -
kobe has 1 or 2 max elite years left, then hell have nothing left at all. hes paid like the best player in the game even though hes a top 10 player now. wantit is right about the off the court stuff, foolish to think that fans wouldnt show up if the lakers were winning without him.Comment -
Originally posted by wantitall4moi;[STRIKE
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Was hoping the bulls would amnesty boozer, but without DENG and rose I don't think they wl be able to nowComment -
LOL everyone knows the guy sucks and have said so, but you single me out, probably because I said it a long time ago and was proven correct. Fading the Lakers was free money, and I showed that too. Jealousy is a horrible thing, it eats away at the brain and emotions of people, it is apparent you are in the latter stages of a emotional and mental breakdown borderline stalking guys on forums and then wasting even more time to google search them and try and connect the dots to some fantasy you have which also backfired horribly.
If you were an actual LAKER fan you would admit trading kobe is the only move they have at this point, at least saying they could because they cant because he has a no trade clause (another bad move by the Lakers). But it is obvious that you a self proclaimed lakerfan is actually just a Kobe fan in hiding. Which is far worse because the guy is maybe the most over rated player in the history of the game. Sure he has stats, and rode the coat tails of Phil Jackson and Shaq to a few rings but alone, and even with all star help he is a complete failure. If he were a baseball player it might be different because individual stats mean something but he is a basketball player where the idea is to play as a team ad try and make other players around you better. Something he has never ever done.
So come next year at this time when the lakers are out playing golf again and people realize, "hey this stiff is going to make 30 million next year", they might get it. But not likely. Kobe is ultimately going to be the guy synonymous with destroying the Lakers, it might not be all his fault but he will have a big hand in it.
But if Kobe s really serious about making the team better and not just being the man, he will take a pay cut and free up some room to sign some guys. But since no one wants to play with him that might be moot anyway, but on the outside chance they could get a couple big name guys to come here and play he can take a 40% pay cut (max allowed under the new CBA, but requires another year added to the contract). Odds of that happening are zero though and everyone knows it. So in the end Kobe will get what he deserves, more criticism and more failure and his so called legacy will get lower and lower as more and more people realize what kind of a guy he is.
Kobe jock sniffers will never see it, but most people that arent clouded in ignorance will.Comment -
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I definately would keep the big men
Hard to find good ones
Package Kobe and Artest somewhere??Comment -
Kobe = Pay Cut/Restructure Contract for extra cap room. Kobe isn't dumb. He knows what he has to do.Comment -
yeah without Bynum theyre at around 64 million. If Sessions decides to use his option that gets them to 68, bynum makes it 84 which is right around where they were this year. but they lose barnes, hill (option for 3.6), murphy ebanks and goudelock.
Basically to have the same exact team they had this year which cost them 86 mil and change, will cost them around 92 million, assuming barnes, murphy, ebanks and caracter all sign for what they played for last year.
So these pipe dreams about signing guys are just dumb. Kobe and Artest are 35 million, no one wants either of them and from the sounds they dont want to trade Kobe anyway. So that is your starting point. Pau for Iguodala saves them a little 19 versus 15, not sure how close the amounts have to be. So if they get Iggy theyre at 50 million. Howard for Bynum is a +3 million gain for the Lakers, so that gets them to 69 million. So Kobe, Aretest, Iggy, and Howard would be close to 70 million. Add in Blake, McRoberts, Enyenga, and Morris youre up to 79 million, and you still need 6 or 7 more players. So basically half a team is going to cost them 79 million. Sessions option and Hill option would be 'simplest' that gets them to 88/89 million. So they need 4 or 5 more scrubs who will play for peanuts and theyll still be close to 100 million. That also assumes Howard will play for less going forward, which isnt likely. Because Kobe is still on the books and he is going to be 2.75 million more expensive the next year.
Either way Lakers are handcuffed with Artest and Kobe for the next two seasons next year will be a 35 mill start point, the year after that will be 38 for just two guys both old and washed up especially by then.Comment -
never happen although Cupcake said they were goig to offer Kobe an extension which I am sure he is hoping (dreming) will be of the restructured variety. Most Kobe can take is 40%, I doubt he takes any, but it also puts them on the hook for another year, so even at a 40% cut and another year or two theyre still going to be hooked to him for 35 at least and whatever the extended years give him, I would guess 10-12 per (which will basically equalize the break he gives them this contract). But like I said he wont do it he has never taken a pay cut nor do I think he will now. But even if he does Lakers are still going to be buried with the cap and luxury taxes.Comment -
hes not dumb, hes also egotistical
in a perfect world thats the best play IMO. assuming wantitalls right about the 40% pay cut and another on the contract (i didnt bother to do any research so ill take his word), he would still make around 18 million and be playing until 2015 as opposed to 2014.
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I guess Howard would help lakers
Lakers need some young guards that are good and can scoreComment -
wantit, i admit im a bit confused, kobe can take a cut of 40% or he can make 40% of what he does now? hes not gona take a cut in all reality so it doesnt matter, but i still would like this cleared up.Comment -
You've been proven to be a great fade, freak that reviews prostitutes on whore sites, absolute blowhard, and a outright liar.
Buried here in post #113 (and exposed as a liar)
Buried and exposed as a liar (once again) here in post #18
"backfired horribly"...LOL....maybe you should take another look at this thread where posters wrote comments such as:
"rofl burial of the biggest long winded opinionated freak in the history of sbr"
http://forum.sbrforum.com/saloon/156...of-inside.html
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Kobe and Amnesty, laughable. Amnesty should be saved for the likes of Arenas and Rashard Lewis. He is arguably overpaid for the on court production but you cannot underestimate the revenue he generates off the court, look at the rockets and their situation with Yao Ming, who was Greg Oden before there was a "greg oden" couldn't stay healthy, but money talked, and they kept him till he couldn't walk anymore.
Joe Johnson would taste amnesty before kobe does.Comment -
ahh I see William did the virtual equivalent of taking his Laker flag off his car, he put up a Dodgers avatar. Typical Front runner, once they fade he will have an Angels Avatar.
According to the new CBA the max they can take off a current contract (made before the new CBA) is 40%, so he can subtract 40% from the salaries he is going to get in '13 and '14. So from 27,850,000 to 16,709,400 in 2013 and 18,271,800 from 30,453,000 in 2014. Now if he discounts two years I am not sure if they have to give him 2 extra years or not. I know they have to extend the contract at least one year.
So if he takes the pay cut and they keep Bynum and Gasol both theyre at around 59 million, that also includes Artest who they are on the hook for 7.25 million next year. it would also make Gasol a higher paid player than Kobe, so I doubt that happens. But I think they can also deduct ANY amount off a current deal UP to 40%, so Kobe might possibly give them 5 or 10%, but I even doubt that.
Like I said before in a 'perfect' world they could trade Gasol and Iguadola straight up, and any cash necessary to make it work if it doesnt. BYnum and Howard are actually close enough I htink to go straight up, but obviously Howard will want an extension and more or less max out money, so that might be 25 million or more (less than Kobe makes now but a lot considering the new CBA and the luxury tax). But in all reality those are going ot be pretty 'lateral' ,moves. It still doesnt address their lack of depth. Which is why I say getting rid of Kobe and keeping the two guys everyone wants to trade and then build a TEAM and some depth s what they should really focus on. They already have two all stars so getting two more guys even they are all stars themselves isnt a gain. Not when you still dont have a bench or anyone coming off that bench that can contribute. Thats why Lamar Odom (before he went batshit crazy) was the key to the lakers.
We'll know a lot by 4th of July I imagine and what their goals are, whether they can accomplish them is one thing. We saw how badly they floundered last year trying to make moves.Comment -
Look up his playoff stats. 33 yr old w/ 30PPG at 44 FG%. GTFO out of here with he is done BS. Who else is out there that they can pick up that will produce those #'s?Comment -
Odds that William Walters is one of the 60% in LA that isnt even from LA? -250. Gotta love the front runners and the glamor of the big city right W.W? Hollywood
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Bryant is top 3 players in the world. Top 10? You can't even name 5 better than him. Don't mention guys like Rose or Russel Westbrook, because I won't even respond.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Yeah right!
Kobe is not gonna be traded. Kobe will retire a Laker in about 5 or 6 years from now.Comment -
Not a Kobe fan but
Kobe is LA
He is not going anywhere except the hall of fame after he retires from the lakers.Comment -
SoCal born and raised.
Living in coastal Orange County with sunny skies and a cool ocean breeze is the life. Sorry you're stuck in a shithole in/around Philly. My condolences.
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