Thunder Series Price +157

[lakerboy]

No. People see okc +157 and say " they should be +195 -+200 and think books are giving spurs no respect"


Raydog make sure you show up when okc prevails. I don't model lines. I predict the winner. I know sharps like the spurs and hit the "gift" line of -170 at open. I also know books don't give gifts. Okc is gonna run all over the spurs. The spurs are great but they are also a product of current hype. Okc has been tested and has come thru. Let's see how the spurs do when they are down 2-1 in the series in game 4 in okc.

[BigDofBA]

Take opinions out of it and just work the numbers, and you get +190 as fair price. If +210 is REALLY available somewhere, than that's great for OKC. I see nothing higher than +179.

I meant for game 1 ML.

Honestly, I think OKC wins at least one in San Antonio. If the Thunder want to win the series they will have to win games 3 and 4 at home as well.

With that said. I think OKC wins one in San Antonio and San Antonio wins one in OKC.

I feel like OKC is pretty confident after going 7-1 against the previous two champs (teams that knocked them out of the playoffs the past two seasons) and winning some of those games in crunch time on the road.

When you can win games in the final seconds on the road against Kobe and the Lakers and Dirk and the Mavericks, you have to feel like you can win this series.

San Antonio is really good, I just feel like people are giving them a little too much love because of a win streak in which 67% of their wins have come against teams that didn't make the playoffs and the Jazz.

I think the line for game 1 should be OKC +3 and OKC ML +150ish.

[LT Profits]

I meant for game 1 ML.

Honestly, I think OKC wins at least one in San Antonio. If the Thunder want to win the series they will have to win games 3 and 4 at home as well.

With that said. I think OKC wins one in San Antonio and San Antonio wins one in OKC.

I feel like OKC is pretty confident after going 7-1 against the previous two champs (teams that knocked them out of the playoffs the past two seasons) and winning some of those games in crunch time on the road.

When you can win games in the final seconds on the road against Kobe and the Lakers and Dirk and the Mavericks, you have to feel like you can win this series.

San Antonio is really good, I just feel like people are giving them a little too much love because of a win streak in which 67% of their wins have come against teams that didn't make the playoffs and the Jazz.

I think the line for game 1 should be OKC +3 and OKC ML +150ish.

Sorry, thought you were talking about series. We disagree on Game 1, so it makes sense that we disagree on series too.

[LT Profits]

No. People see okc +157 and say " they should be +195 -+200 and think books are giving spurs no respect"


Raydog make sure you show up when okc prevails. I don't model lines. I predict the winner. I know sharps like the spurs and hit the "gift" line of -170 at open. I also know books don't give gifts. Okc is gonna run all over the spurs. The spurs are great but they are also a product of current hype. Okc has been tested and has come thru. Let's see how the spurs do when they are down 2-1 in the series in game 4 in okc.

Except you TOOK the +157 which is a bad bet even if the Thunder win.

[PAULYPOKER]

Spurs will win series 4-2 or 4-3...................................

[PAULYPOKER]

The books are not giving OKC respect because they don't have to, the public loves OKC and Vegas Loves the Spurs.....................

[BigDofBA]

Sorry, thought you were talking about series. We disagree on Game 1, so it makes sense that we disagree on series too.

I think San Antonio wins the series.

[lakerboy]

The books are not giving OKC respect because they don't have to, the public loves OKC and Vegas Loves the Spurs.....................

Yup vegas keeps losing money on the spurs. After okc wins game 1 or 2 all the squares will chase san an . Watch and see.

[raydog]

No. People see okc +157 and say " they should be +195 -+200 and think books are giving spurs no respect"


Raydog make sure you show up when okc prevails. I don't model lines. I predict the winner(make guesses and hope that my guess is correct since i really have no idea what a value play is.) I know sharps like the spurs and hit the "gift" line of -170 at open. I also know books don't give gifts. Okc is gonna run all over the spurs. The spurs are great but they are also a product of current hype. Okc has been tested and has come thru. Let's see how the spurs do when they are down 2-1 in the series in game 4 in okc.

i will be here buddy..i will! i will! .. but dear god these threads where people have no clue about prices kill me slowly...its brutal to view ... i just dont understand it and i can only imagine how bad it bothers guys like durito mf or ganch etc... your gut doesnt tell value, people...it never will. i hope you win, lakeshow

[grumpy64]

Seriously with the exception of okc's big 2 averaging 70 a game how do the thunder score enough points to win this series? Really all the thunder will be able to do is shoot jumpers and hope they fall. Sure the big 2 are the best players of both teams and will be able to get some drives to the basket but it will not be enough. Another key factor that people are over looking is that the spurs are a much better half court team. They don't have to run if they don't want to. They can slow things down which will give okc fits as they are a pretty bad half court team Spurs will also get back on D during fast breaks. Something the lakers usually failed to do.

[BigDofBA]

Seriously with the exception of okc's big 2 averaging 70 a game how do the thunder score enough points to win this series? Really all the thunder will be able to do is shoot jumpers and hope they fall. Sure the big 2 are the best players of both teams and will be able to get some drives to the basket but it will not be enough. Another key factor that people are over looking is that the spurs are a much better half court team. They don't have to run if they don't want to. They can slow things down which will give okc fits as they are a pretty bad half court team Spurs will also get back on D during fast breaks. Something the lakers usually failed to do.

Ibaka has had games where he scores 20 and Harden has had games where he scores 30.

OKC has enough offense. I'm more worried about our defense.

[lakerboy]

Raydog seriously you kill me. I always look for value . Sure I got beat by the price this time but I really doubt books were gonna be this off on a conf finals price like ltprofits has indicated.
I would like to think nba lines are very sharp and if some modelers( aka as squares) think that the price was wrong and they were happy laying -170 with two equal teams then so be it.

That's why they play the games.

[raydog]

gl lakeshow...but winning modelers are nowhere near square(pretty fukking retarded statement really, to be nice about it) , you still think the teams are even (when the market is laughing at your gut guess by moving hard against you) you think you are better than the books and you are not and you still think there was some value in the play when its obvious there was not... i understand why you like okc and all and hey, its the nba, anything can happen...but what you are trying to argue is simply wrong and stupid ... nevermind though, you should get some more okc now and forget that people in this thread tried to help people see why their thought process was wrong. gl to all

[Pauulzcappin]

lb, you made a bad bet, the line moved against you yet you feel the need to reaffirm yourself from throwing out mostly random shit.

i have respect for you, but you are way off here with most statements.

[wantitall4moi]

If OKC isnt hitting jump shots they might get swept. I know the refs helped the lakers but they shouldnt have come close to beating OKC if they were any good. Clippers are better than the Lakers and they got owned by San Antonio.

OKC will be lucky to win a game in the series but if they get a lot of free throws some ref help or make a ton of 3s anything is possible.

[grumpy64]

Ibaka has had games where he scores 20 and Harden has had games where he scores 30.

OKC has enough offense. I'm more worried about our defense.

sure they do but it relies almost entirely on fast breaks and jump shots

[pepero428]

sure they do but it relies almost entirely on fast breaks and jump shots

coach pop has two good targets for his hacking plan

ibaka and collison, with ibaka being worse ft shooter of the 2

[BigDofBA]

OKC will be lucky to win a game in the series

I've been seeing a lot of comments like this.

It makes me feel better about things.

[NittanyLionsFan]

Do the sportsbooks in vegas allow you to bet the series after 2 games? If so, which ones?

Yes, they all do.

[Reedeman]

People seem to overlook the fact that while the spurs haven't been playing championship-caliber teams of late; they HAVE swept the playoffs up until now, with 7/8 of those games being DD wins...

OKC on the other hand, have played against better teams and scrapped by, winning 7/8, with their only loss being a complete FIX @ LA. I'm sorry but you must be on another planet if you watched gm3 @ LA and thought it was honest..

This series might be more even than people think. These are the two best teams in the NBA right now, practically injury free.

[convick]

People seem to overlook the fact that while the spurs haven't been playing championship-caliber teams of late; they HAVE swept the playoffs up until now, with 7/8 of those games being DD wins...

OKC on the other hand, have played against better teams and scrapped by, winning 7/8, with their only loss being a complete FIX @ LA. I'm sorry but you must be on another planet if you watched gm3 @ LA and thought it was honest..

This series might be more even than people think. These are the two best teams in the NBA right now, practically injury free.

OKC had to scrap by because they are an inferior team (as compared to San Antonio). Simple as that.

[BigDofBA]

People seem to overlook the fact that while the spurs haven't been playing championship-caliber teams of late; they HAVE swept the playoffs up until now, with 7/8 of those games being DD wins...

OKC on the other hand, have played against better teams and scrapped by, winning 7/8, with their only loss being a complete FIX @ LA. I'm sorry but you must be on another planet if you watched gm3 @ LA and thought it was honest..

This series might be more even than people think. These are the two best teams in the NBA right now, practically injury free.

Yeah. OKC lost one game on the road by three points and LA had 41 points at the free throw line. 41 points at the line!!!!!!

The Spurs should be favored but it's closer than people think.

[BigDofBA]

OKC had to scrap by because they are an inferior team (as compared to San Antonio). Simple as that.

Keep'em coming guys. The more posts like this the better.

[convick]

Keep'em coming guys. The more posts like this the better.

Guy I quoted is full of crap if he thinks the Mavericks and Lakers are quality teams. They are over the hill. Clippers on the other hand are definitely in their prime and they got embarrassed thoroughly. If anything, Clippers and Lakers are equals.

[BigDofBA]

Guy I quoted is full of crap if he thinks the Mavericks and Lakers are quality teams. They are over the hill. Clippers on the other hand are definitely in their prime and they got embarrassed thoroughly. If anything, Clippers and Lakers are equals.

The Lakers are better than the Clippers. Hench the Lakers being the #3 seed and the Clippers being the #5 seed. Hence Kobe and Gasol having championships and the Clippers not having jack.

Didn't Dallas win it all last year?

Didn't the Lakers win it all the year before?

Lakers/Mavericks > Clippers/Jazz!

Also, the Clippers were banged up in that series. Paul and Griffin weren't even close to 100%. Are you really trying to say that beating the #8 seed and the Clippers is more impressive than going 8-1 against the last two NBA champions and clinching both series on their home floor?

Slight edge to San Antonio here but people that think this is going to be a lay up for the Spurs are crazy.

[NittanyLionsFan]

If anybody in Vegas wants to meet up and use a well known (and reputable) poker player as escrow (Mercier is one of my roommates, we can use him or any person you chose on a list i provide) I'll offer you OKC at 3 points better than whatever the middle is on the Pinnacle price.

20k minimum, would prefer 50k+.

Before anyone who doesn't know English well enough to understand what I said..I want the spurs. So you'd be betting OKC. Can meet at Rio early tomorrow.

DM me.

[No coincidences]

If anybody in Vegas wants to meet up and use a well known (and reputable) poker player as escrow (Mercier is one of my roommates, we can use him or any person you chose on a list i provide) I'll offer you OKC at 3 points better than whatever the middle is on the Pinnacle price.

20k minimum, would prefer 50k+.

Before anyone who doesn't know English well enough to understand what I said..I want the spurs. So you'd be betting OKC. Can meet at Rio early tomorrow.

DM me.

I understand NLF, but you have to admit that's an ironic part of the post.

[NittanyLionsFan]

I understand NLF, but you have to admit that's an ironic part of the post.

I forgt the word asks.

[No coincidences]

I forgt the word asks.

I know -- that's why it's so funny.

Just giving you shit. It's all good.

[NittanyLionsFan]

Whoever said the NBA benefits from potential better ratings for OKC/MIA... haha @ that.

First of all, I doubt ratings would be much higher at all. Like really...how many people will tune in for OKC/MIA but not SAS/MIA? Not very many at all. Spurs/Heat is a hell of a series.

The Thunder would get destroyed by Miami in the series that won't end up happening. Westbrook would shoot them right out of the series by taking a million shots that lead to Miami pts in transition and OKC into a hole they can't get out of. Miami in 4 or 5...seriously doubt OKC sees a game 6 in that matchup.

Spurs/Heat though? That could easily go 7. I could see either team finishing in less than 7 too. I'm pretty sure if the NBA could pick a team to play Miami its the Spurs.

[NittanyLionsFan]

My point by saying SAS lasts longer and possibly even wins...the NBA benefits far more from more NBA finals games than a microscopic # of people that tune into OKC games but not Spurs games. And when MIA is up 3-0 nobody would watch game 4 in the OKC series anyways.

[Goat Milk]

Keep'em coming guys. The more posts like this the better.

You don't really think OKC will beat the Heat in a series? I've read your posts and it seems like you know about basketball but you can't be serious. Just hoping? You can make an argument for the Spurs for sure, but not the Thunder to win it all...

[LT Profits]

Spurs might be a slight favorite over Miami. Thunder would be decided underdogs.

[Jambi25]

The Lakers are better than the Clippers. Hench the Lakers being the #3 seed and the Clippers being the #5 seed. Hence Kobe and Gasol having championships and the Clippers not having jack.

Didn't Dallas win it all last year?

Didn't the Lakers win it all the year before?

Lakers/Mavericks > Clippers/Jazz!

Also, the Clippers were banged up in that series. Paul and Griffin weren't even close to 100%. Are you really trying to say that beating the #8 seed and the Clippers is more impressive than going 8-1 against the last two NBA champions and clinching both series on their home floor?

Slight edge to San Antonio here but people that think this is going to be a lay up for the Spurs are crazy.

The Mavs and Jazz finished with the EXACT SAME record, and only 1 game separated the Lakers and Clippers. Neither of these teams were head and shoulders above each other. And are you really hanging your hat on the whole ex-champ thing??? Totally flawed. The Mavs were only defending champs on paper. A completely different roster because Cuban blew the team up hoping to land Deron and Dwight this offseason. No Tyson Chandler, Barea, Or Stevenson. They lost huge pieces of that championship team. Same with the Lakers, they are a shell of the 09/10 team.

I think the Thunder are a great team and will push SAS to 6 or 7. But please, this whole defeating the past champs thing is overrated, romanticized fan talk.

[Yolkix]

Did anyone who is sitting here defending the Clippers as some great team actually WATCH the games? I realize that the SAS D was obviously very good but come on.. the clips couldn't even run anything resembling an offensive set and shot nothing but running one handed floaters down the stretch. Paul was obviously not himself in that series as well. The Spurs were the #1 seed in the west last year, had mostly the same team (save for Leonard and Capn Jack and minus RJ), and went on to lose in the first round. I am not saying that the spurs are not an excellent team and I greatly respect their coach and Duncan. What i am saying is that I think a number of you are so far onto the wagon for them its ridiculous, they are not by any means some kind of unbeatable team and OKC could really give them fits.