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  • Pharieswheel
    SBR Sharp
    • 05-02-10
    • 360

    #1
    Laker shakeup
    Big changes will come, BUSS won't put up with this long. Gasol is gone! a trade for a top pick, and Howard will become a Laker, and one other big trade. Bynum is gone to.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Kobe actually is the problem

    Ball hogging does not work
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    • wantitall4moi
      SBR MVP
      • 04-17-10
      • 3063

      #3
      Originally posted by Pharieswheel
      Big changes will come, BUSS won't put up with this long. Gasol is gone! a trade for a top pick, and Howard will become a Laker, and one other big trade. Bynum is gone to.
      LOL this is what everyone expects, and maybe what happens, but you still have an old broken down Kobe Bryant, a guy with back problems in Howard. And back problems are something that KILLS NBA players, especially big guys, so anyone trading for Howard now would be foolish.

      Lakers dont have a lot of options here. You arent going to get 'equal' value (in a vacuum) for either Gasol or Bynum, both are all stars, or should have been. The common denominator to all the problems like i said was kobe. So people can talk all they want to about what is 'wrong' with the Lakers but until one of them gives the obvious answer none of them should be giving advice.
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      • thetrinity
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-25-11
        • 22431

        #4
        i think dealing kobe is the answer 2. bynum still a young player and a rare good big man. dwight howard might not be the same like wantit said, kobe has a ton of miles on him, i dont see him being dealt though.
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        • crustyme
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-29-10
          • 16896

          #5
          anyone who says trading kobe is the answer is an idiot.



          they need to get rid of gasol, mcroberts, murphy.... all useless. and pursue deron williams cause sessions isnt the answer and kris humphries (double-double machine; said they needed to sign him last year).
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          • thetrinity
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-25-11
            • 22431

            #6
            sessions isnt the answer lol no fuckin kidding, thanks for that one captain obvious.
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            • crustyme
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-29-10
              • 16896

              #7
              more obvious than trading kobe? their only draw and the only reason theyre a championship contender each season?


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              • William Walters
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-17-11
                • 6372

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Kobe actually is the problem

                Ball hogging does not work
                Jordon?

                Lakers 2008-09?
                Lakers 2009-10?

                Run along coach. Find another topic pal.
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                • SBR_John
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 16471

                  #9
                  I'd keep Gasol. You're not going to get much for him, maybe a 2nd round pick or a trade to the Spurs for Blair something like that. First player I would deal is Sessions. They need a dynamic point guard. That's the huge glaring weakness of the lakers.
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                  • PanamaBrad
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-22-11
                    • 717

                    #10
                    The guy who Buss brought in to coach is a joke. Has no clue or else they won't listen to him. When he was at Cleveland he wasn't really a coach. Lebron was the coach. With currrent roster, they need another outside shooter and a coach who knows how to run a high post/low post offense. You put Gasol on the top of the key and Bynum down low and everybody will get plenty of quality looks.
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                    • William Walters
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 6372

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pharieswheel
                      Big changes will come, BUSS won't put up with this long. Gasol is gone! a trade for a top pick, and Howard will become a Laker, and one other big trade. Bynum is gone to.
                      Pharies........Bynum is only gone in a deal for Howard. Otherwise...........he stays. Gasol will not be traded for some 19 year old rookie........not with Kobe only having a few more years to get number six.
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                      • thetrinity
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-25-11
                        • 22431

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crustyme
                        more obvious than trading kobe? their only draw and the only reason theyre a championship contender each season?


                        you guys dont realize hes going to be 34 years old and starting his 17th nba season next year? throw in all the playoff games and its more like 22 or 23 years of play. jordan won his last title at 35 after 3 years of college and a 2 year sabbatical.
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                        • thetrinity
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-25-11
                          • 22431

                          #13
                          Originally posted by William Walters
                          Pharies........Bynum is only gone in a deal for Howard. Otherwise...........he stays. Gasol will not be traded for some 19 year old rookie........not with Kobe only having a few more years to get number six.
                          agree with bynum only gone for howard, but you really want him coming off back surgery?
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                          • Grits n' Gravy
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 13024

                            #14
                            Urkel is likely going to get shit canned and Buss Jr may have to bite the bullet and ask Phil to come back. If you can deal Gasol for something decent, you do so. Have to see a list of all free agents and what guys are likely to be shopped to make a better assessment. KG is going to be a FA and as awful as it sounds hearing him in LA, he would be perfect to pair with Bynum to get the kid playing consistent. May I add fukk LA.
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                            • thetrinity
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-25-11
                              • 22431

                              #15
                              lol urkel thats good. that is who he reminds me of. he was a bad hire, i dont blame him for losing to oklahoma city though, and i dont see him being fired. i think magic was right about him having to beat denver to keep his job, that was more just cause in my book. phil jackson will be retired unless he has a team that can win a title, as of right now, lakers cant.
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                              • beerman2619
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-24-09
                                • 7752

                                #16
                                not a buckin chance Phil Jackson comes back to coach the Lakers.
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                                • crustyme
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-29-10
                                  • 16896

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by thetrinity
                                  you guys dont realize hes going to be 34 years old and starting his 17th nba season next year? throw in all the playoff games and its more like 22 or 23 years of play. jordan won his last title at 35 after 3 years of college and a 2 year sabbatical.
                                  we heard the same thing before the 2008-9 season..... how exhausted he must be after the grueling playoffs and the olympics... except he went on to win back to back titles.

                                  kobe is simply the best conditioned athlete on the floor at all times. this season was no different as he led the nba in scoring nearly wire to wire. still had a shot to win the scoring title in the final game but sat out to prepare for the playoffs. talk about selfish huh?

                                  kobe has shown 0 signs of slowing down. so age is just a number when it comes to him. but i do think he should skip the olympics this year, just so he can have surgeries on his numerous injuries on his shooting hand/wrist which does affect his shots, no matter how much he denies it.
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                                  • GUMMO77
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-23-10
                                    • 9294

                                    #18
                                    If the Lakers plan on building a team around Bynum, they're in for a world of hurt. The guy is good, but doesn't have the makeup to be a team leader.

                                    We'll see how much pull Kobe actually has in L.A. from what happens this off-season. He'll demand something (and rightfully so) be changed .. be it the coach, getting a point guard, or having Gasol traded. But things are going be a different in the 2013-2014 season when the new luxury tax kicks in, and you know damn well Buss and his crew have already thought about that.
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                                    • darkhat
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-18-10
                                      • 5722

                                      #19
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                                      • thetrinity
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-25-11
                                        • 22431

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by crustyme
                                        we heard the same thing before the 2008-9 season..... how exhausted he must be after the grueling playoffs and the olympics... except he went on to win back to back titles.

                                        kobe is simply the best conditioned athlete on the floor at all times. this season was no different as he led the nba in scoring nearly wire to wire. still had a shot to win the scoring title in the final game but sat out to prepare for the playoffs. talk about selfish huh?

                                        kobe has shown 0 signs of slowing down. so age is just a number when it comes to him. but i do think he should skip the olympics this year, just so he can have surgeries on his numerous injuries on his shooting hand/wrist which does affect his shots, no matter how much he denies it.
                                        ya when he was 30 years old, do you think people age backwards like benjamin button?
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                                        • riffraff24
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-20-11
                                          • 7234

                                          #21
                                          "dealing kobe is the answer"... He is untradable so that is obviously NOT the answer. And I'd be a ball hog too if I was surrounded by all those scrubs.
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                                          • crustyme
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-29-10
                                            • 16896

                                            #22
                                            agree about bynum. the guy is obviously talented but is an immature lazy prick most of the time.

                                            this is the same guy who after tearing his knee ligament was photographed at the playboy mansion giving playmates rides on his shoulder.





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                                            • thetrinity
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-25-11
                                              • 22431

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                              If the Lakers plan on building a team around Bynum, they're in for a world of hurt. The guy is good, but doesn't have the makeup to be a team leader.

                                              We'll see how much pull Kobe actually has in L.A. from what happens this off-season. He'll demand something (and rightfully so) be changed .. be it the coach, getting a point guard, or having Gasol traded. But things are going be a different in the 2013-2014 season when the new luxury tax kicks in, and you know damn well Buss and his crew have already thought about that.
                                              he wasnt even consulted on coach urkel so he says. personally your best player should be your assistant gm, especially if the real gm is a fool. i dont like the lakers, but i think the nba is better when they are relevant. i think everyone here would agree that point guard and coach are big holes for this team. i still dont think option 3 is that bad of dealing kobe and starting over, give him a chance to get his 6th ring elsewhere, i dont see that happening though, theyll try and build the team around him until he retires.
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                                              • crustyme
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-29-10
                                                • 16896

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                ya when he was 30 years old, do you think people age backwards like benjamin button?
                                                whats the difference? hes won more championships in his 30s than 24-29.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Bynum was a huge disappointment
                                                  Gasol also
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                                                  • GUMMO77
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                    • 9294

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                    he wasnt even consulted on coach urkel so he says.
                                                    That says a lot.

                                                    Is Kobe going to end up like Jordan where he has no affiliation with the team he won multiple championships with, once he retires?
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                                                    • thetrinity
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-25-11
                                                      • 22431

                                                      #27
                                                      crusty are you projecting kobe as the mvp in 2020?
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                                                      • crustyme
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-29-10
                                                        • 16896

                                                        #28
                                                        kobes a laker for life.

                                                        he wont be a backstabbing turncoat like jordan.
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                                                        • PhillyFlyers
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-27-11
                                                          • 8245

                                                          #29
                                                          Only big move I see coming from the Lake Show is that Gasol is gone.

                                                          Bynum ain't going nowhere and Kobe definitely ain't going nowhere.
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                                                          • GUMMO77
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-23-10
                                                            • 9294

                                                            #30
                                                            I do see where possibly trading Kobe, in the long run, might help the team. But the NBA, and more so the owners, are about making money. Kobe is a money maker, even if he and the Lakers are a first or second round loser in the playoffs.
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                                                            • thetrinity
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-25-11
                                                              • 22431

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                                              That says a lot.

                                                              Is Kobe going to end up like Jordan where he has no affiliation with the team he won multiple championships with, once he retires?
                                                              ah i duno, i do think he earned a hand picked coach. i thought he was selfish when he bitched for a trade a few years back, if he did now, i dont blame him.
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                                                              • TheMoneyShot
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-14-07
                                                                • 28672

                                                                #32
                                                                I would hate to be the GM of the Lakers right now. I can assure you... Kobe isn't going anywhere. They will still build around him. I think he has one more "starting" year in him... but the remaining years... he might be your 6th man from the bench. Either that or he retires. What sucks is that Any average to above average star can guard Kobe. Years ago... Kobe was unguardable. He's still going to get looks.
                                                                i think Gasol is traded. He really sucked in the playoffs. I think he's still thinking about that one broad from last year... his game absolutely sucks. Bynam is solid. His best year will be next year. I think he's ready. You need Kobe just to be Kobe... but you do need a young guard that can semi-lead.... Funny though... James Harden would be a good fit for the L.A. Lakers... just saying.
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                                                                • thetrinity
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-25-11
                                                                  • 22431

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by crustyme
                                                                  kobes a laker for life.

                                                                  he wont be a backstabbing turncoat like jordan.
                                                                  this isnt war, its business. how could a laker fan think less of him if he wanted out now? he gave the organization all he could for 16 years. i think he loves la and the lakers, but he also loves winning more then anything.
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                                                                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 19734

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Pharieswheel
                                                                    Big changes will come, BUSS won't put up with this long. Gasol is gone! a trade for a top pick, and Howard will become a Laker, and one other big trade. Bynum is gone to.
                                                                    you have no idea what's going on with the lakers. jerry buss is no long is in charge. his son's in charge and he's gonna ruin the lakers.
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                                                                    • crustyme
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-29-10
                                                                      • 16896

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                                      this isnt war, its business. how could a laker fan think less of him if he wanted out now? he gave the organization all he could for 16 years. i think he loves la and the lakers, but he also loves winning more then anything.
                                                                      he had a chance to pull a lebron few years back and didnt. he stuck with the lakers through his most challenging seasons without phil, shaq and with smush & kwame.

                                                                      he has already said he wouldnt chase rings like a certain choking bitch from cleveland. sure he would like another ring or two but if its not with the lakers he wont mind.

                                                                      kobe will retire a laker.
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