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lol, what am I supposed to say to this? That I'm NOT a "fukkin idiot" or "fukkin muppet"? Word of advice from one of your wiser elders: Once you have nowhere to go in a debate but to start insulting your opponent, you are advertising to everyone that you just got owned. =( Maybe a few adolescents will give you some credit for it, but nobody who is the least bit serious.
And isn't it funny how to Floyd Protein-shake-guzzlers like this guy, that if somebody like me offers words cutting through Floyd's propaganda then that person MUST be a MANNY PACQUIAO FAN? I mean, what other explanation could there be for me to *not* be blindly and wildly sucking Mayweather's D?
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He is pretty good. Maybe an all time great for his own generation. But he doesn't have any career defining wins. His wins lately have been over old men or broken goods like Cotto. He defiantly is a great boxer though. A Pacman win would make him an all time great.
I would pick Manny though.
And I would probably make money.
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Mayweather destroyed Marquez and Pacquiao looked pathetic against him. And it wasnt just 1 fluke fight because pacquiao looked PATHETIC against marquez in all 3 fights. he couldnt even handle a lightweight. Pacquiao also got outboxed by Erik Morales. And pacquiao fought Oscar a year later, at 147 lbs, and with 8oz gloves. Mayweather fought oscar earlier, at 154, and with heavyweight 10oz gloves.
styles make fights. Pacquiao has big trouble against counter-punchers. We saw it in all 3 of the Marquez fights where Pacquiao looked pathetic. he can't fight solid counterpunchers.
If you think Marquez' counter punching poses a problem for pacquiao, just imagine what the counter punching of floyd will do.Comment -
Manny not strong enough to beat Floyd
Its a huge mismatchComment -
Pacman has to get through Bradley first. Bradleys headbutt could put Manny out.
Bradley vs Floyd in DecemberComment -
Marquez was fat and out of shape in the mayweather fight, he didn't bulk properly. Christ he went around and threw rocks as hard as possible for weight training. Pacquiao has issues with Marquez, no doubt about it, but hardly pathetic. They're always close fights, the only reason people say Marquez got robbed is because everyone loves the epic underdog, look at how many people thought the Cotto-Mayweather fight was close.
It's an interesting match-up and I'd say it depends on if Pacquiao is able to get Floyd to the ropes and keep him there (definitely a possibility) and bully him. If Floyd stops that and gets the open ring, we're talking an easy UD. Pac's gotta get through Bradley first though.Comment -
beat pac and i would considerComment -
Floyd is also great at fighting from the ropes. we saw it in the Cotto fight. I dont think anyone can sit there and nitpick BS reasons why floyd dominated marquez. Even if he wasnt "bulked", the man got DESTROYED. He did not win 1 round all fight. Marquez got absolutely destroyed. I think the 3rd marquez/pac fight, along with almost everyone, was a draw. i dont think marquez was robbed of a win, but he was robbed of a tie. and in the 2nd fight, i definitely think Marquez won the fight. Pacquiao should be 0-1-2 against Marquez. Mayweather absolutely destroyed him. its not like mayweather fight was a close match and you can sit there and say only reason he beat marquez was because didnt bulk, etc. The fight was totally lopsided.
Regarding Pacquiao, he has trouble against counter punchers. Marquez' counter punching ability gave him big problems. We saw it in all 3 fights. Floyd is a much better counter puncher than Marquez, probably the best in the game. If you think a lightweight like Marquez' counter punching is problematic for Pacquiao.... just imagine what Floyd Mayweathers counter-punching will do.
But pacquiao and floyd will never fight because Bob Arum will never let it happen. He squaked at the idea of guaranteeing pacquiao 40-50 million dollars. Arum is greedy and likes to make as much money as the fighters. He also hates mayweather. He also hates richard schaeffer of Golden Boy promotions. The fight will never happen. Mayweather could agree to take 40% of purse and give pacquiao 60%, and the fight still wouldnt happen. Bob Arum doesn't want to take the chance that his Cash Cow gets defeated by his enemy.
Bob Arum won't make the fight. He gave a list of 15 excuses when the may 5th fight negotiations were going on.
pacquiao excuses:
"i'm afraid of needles, even though i have tattoos."
"if my blood is drawn too close to fight night, it drains my strength."
"i've never failed a drug test, so i shouldn't have to take one."
"the fight needs a longer promotional time frame."
"6 months not long enough for small cut to heal."
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"Mayweather may not be able to get a boxing license in Nevada."
"Manny going to fight in May. What? Floyd's sentence got pushed back to June 1st?..umm, Manny is best served fighting later in June."
"We won't be pressured into a fight with Floyd."
"The arena is too small. We want to maximize on the revenue."
“I’ll let bob arum handle it”
1MILLION PER POUND OVERWEIGHT
LEGAL ISSUES
FLOYD FIGHTING GUERRORO
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floyd did not use a size advantage when beating marquez...he simply outclassed him....big time....floyd wasnt in clinches pushing marquez around...he wasnt pushing marquez into the ropes and teeing off on him.....he just out boxed the shit out of marquez
and if you are going to list some good arum excuses....why not pick up right after the third jmm/pac fight??
"we are looking to do a rematch with marquez
we dont even know if floyd can be licensed...hes going to jail(arum mentions manny may fight someone else in may....mayweather then gets his sentence pushed back so he can fight on the may 5th date he reserved)
manny has a cut that wont heal in time to fight in may(after mentioning manny may fight in may lol...funny dan rafael said "ive never heard of a cut taking 6 months to heal....vitali could have fit manny inside the cut he received against lennox lewis and he still fought 6 months later")
lolol....http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight.....not a fan of rafael at all.....but the guy is a notrious manny slurper.....even he couldnt deny the arum bullshitComment -
I'd put my entire savings account on him if they went no gloves and he borrowed his fiancé's ring:
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i feel since, dog and tt warrior are obvious idiots, i must break this down even though i dont really want to ...ive had to do this over and over
the oscar the floyd fought was a legit 154 world champ....the oscar that manny beat was a 147 weight drained corpse....oscar hadnt fought at 147 in 7 years......but manny wouldnt take the fight if it was any higher....they were hydrating oscar with ivs before he came to the ring....roach even said he saw the fresh marks so he knew...and he told manny to pounce right on him cause he knew he had nothing when he saw those marks
the rick hatton that floyd ko'd was an undefeated fighter...and one fight removed from his biggest win ever....against a hall of famer in kostya tsyzu.......after floyd ko'd ricky....ricky fought juan lazcano in england and was put on queer st by a 135 lb fighter and was saved by the home referee....after ricky surived that he fought the pillow fisted paulie malignaggi.....then pac highlight reeled him
the shane mosley that floyd fought was coming off one of his biggest wins in his career....and was the legit 147 world champ.....the shane pac fought was coming of the embarrassment at the hands of floyd and then a draw with sergio mora......big fuckin deal.....the reality is....after shane whooped margarito's ass shane was calling pac out....and they ran away....shane even said hed drain down to 140 for the fight......shane even went to the wildcard gym to talk to roach personally to lobby for the fight...they said they wouldnt fight him at 147....shane said "you fought oscar at 147" and roach replied "you arent oscar".....they opted for cotto instead of shane who was coming off a big win
cotto was pacs best win...it was a good win...cotto was a game opponent....but it was at a catch of 144 and cotto didnt not have a stable trainer in his camp...he basically trained himself.....the cotto floyd fought was at a very healthy 154 and finally with a stable/legit trainer in diaz
and then theres jmm.....i dont even have to tell you the history there.....Comment
