Derek Jeter haters? I can't hear you

[stevenash]

2 for 5 last night, 2 runs scored, 3 RBI

2012 numbers to date.

15 for 41 (.366) On Base Percentage of .395, Slugging Percentage of .610 OPS 1.005
2 Dingers, 6 extra base hits, don't give me that "but he's got limited range at short" crap, he still makes every play to him, and doesn't make fielding mistakes.

[neverstoppers23]

you do know its mid-april right?

[stevenash]

^
Yes, I can read a calendar, point is, I'm tired of hearing 'shit bum is washed up'

[PhillyFlyers]

Jeter is awesome.

Anyone who talks shit about him can suck a dikk.

[taxe91]

glad to see him back to his stylish best, but you could easily make a case for him being one of the most ineffective defensive shortstops in the game

[PhillyFlyers]

glad to see him back to his stylish best, but you could easily make a case for him being one of the most ineffective defensive shortstops in the game

His 5 Gold Gloves says otherwise.

[jjgold]

unreal

he fooled me

way he is going he might make it to 4000 hits

[PhillyFlyers]

unreal

he fooled me

way he is going he might make it to 4000 hits

JJ

If he makes it to 4,000 hits he must then be regarded as the greatest shortstop ever.

[jjgold]

YES!!!

You never know

[taxe91]

His 5 Gold Gloves says otherwise.

gold gloves are a popularity contest and nothing more.

jeter hasnt posted a positive UZR/150 since 2009. review his recent defensive mediocrity for yourself:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=826&position=SS

[stevenash]

Mediocre at best range, nobody debates this, however, there is more than RF and ZR.
He makes every play at him, he's better than the flashy shortstop that covers 28 percent more ground, but boots 34 percent more balls, or the flashy shortstop with the noodle arm throwing deep in the hole.

Jeter never botches the 4-6-3 or 6-4-3, turns that DP better than almost all, knows where to position himself for the cutoff, never makes a bad cutoff throw to the plate...........

[SASH]

who hates on derek jeter?? Seriously. wow! Obviously people who dont know too much about baseball

[EricZ116]

gold gloves are a popularity contest and nothing more.

jeter hasnt posted a positive UZR/150 since 2009. review his recent defensive mediocrity for yourself:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...26&position=SS

I don't think it's that big of a deal for a shortstop age 36 (2010) to have below average range.

I'm a big Yankee fan, and I get some good laughs making fun of Jeter's range... But let's not forget that he's 38 years old. People who argue he isn't an all time great shortstop because of his range... Go watch some film of Jeter in his prime, or even in his early/mid 30s. Let's not forget that Jeter has been in the majors since 1995.

[RubberKettle]

Why are his twink pants so tight?

[ebbearsfb1]

Love jeter... dude is reliable as my chevy truck... captain clutch... imagine being part of his crew the kind of cheeks you get on a nightly basis

[Thremp]

Jeter is both overrated by the casual fan and underrated by SABRtards (People who consider themselves astute baseball fans via statistical understanding, but don't understand why ZIPS regressing every BABIP is completely ******* retarded).

His defense is trash. He'll be much better than his ZIPS (for the reason stated above) and his defense is fine considering he's one of the best offensive SSs to ever play the game.

He'll never even touch Honus Wagner's level though. Maybe if he plays till Julio Franco age.

[Gamble32jn]

[GOIRISH]

if only yankee fans could say the same for arod

[MoneyLineDawg]

Don't really think people hate on Derek Jeter much, most Yankee haters direct it at A-Rod.....

I grew up watching Jeter dominate in the playoffs for my favorite team and was happy to see him hit 3000 last season.....Since the All Star Break last season he has put up some damn good numbers,but I wonder what happens in a few years when he simply can't play SS anymore due to age......I'm a big Nunez fan but he's gotta learn the position better

Im so happy the Yankees have gone away from the Roger Clemens, Jason Giambi, Randy Johnson meatheads......Now just going for guys through their system and of course the free agents/trades that present value.....Not just throwing retarded money all over the place anymore

[Thremp]

Johnson and Clemens are two of the best pitchers to ever play (Clemens being the GOAT and Johnson merely being a top 3 lefty). They both have put up seasons that Hallagay would have wet dreams to throw.

[rake922]

Nash, you taking Suns today?

Batum, Aldridge and Felton are out for Port

[CMNoney]

The guy looks like he is in his friggin' prime at age 37.

Guy is a true professional.

[You mad bro]

wow its april 16 and the dude played like 8 games in april so far ... wait till all star break .. if hes still putting up numbers by then ... okay fine ...

this is like saying omfg look at how bad pujols is hes batting only 200 ... cmon dude

[OMGRandyJackson]

Lotta love for Jeter in this thread and Im def a fan. But there is tons of hate out there on him. Especially after his most recent contract.

[stevenash]

Jeter with a lead off homer, opposite field yet.

Unbelievable

[Chi_archie]

He'll wear down, I'm middle of the road with jeter. 3 hrs by tax day is nice for him

[Ron29301]

2 HRs within about what 5 or 6 pitches. Sad Twinkies pitcher.

[InTheDrink]

Jeter with a lead off homer, opposite field yet.

Unbelievable

obviously juicing

[Chi_archie]

I'd still take close to a dozen ss's before I'd take jeter on my team this year but I love to root the old guys on towards longevity

[rm18]

He cannot hit right handed pitching

[stevenash]

He cannot hit right handed pitching

You don't know what you are talking about.

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	vs RHP as RHB	2293		8399	7433		2268	354	49	163	897	263	69	721	1294	.305	.374	.432	.806	3209	178	123	79	43	18	140	.350	94
	vs LHP as RHB	1107		2800	2476		835	142	16	79	305	76	23	275	362	.337	.410	.503	.913	1246	68	35	5	9	19	37	.370	119
	vs LH Starter	700	699	3232	2852	511	921	146	15	86	380	74	26	307	453	.323	.396	.475	.871	1355	77	46	14	13	9	46	.359	109
	vs RH Starter	1735	1725	7967	7057	1263	2182	350	50	156	822	265	66	689	1203	.309	.378	.439	.817	3100	169	112	70	39	28	131	.353	96

[rm18]

I mean the last 3 years he can't hit them anymore

[rm18]

reakdown	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	HBP	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
vs. Left	538	115	190	31	2	17	66	64	5	70	19	5	.353	.425	.513	.938
vs. Right	1305	187	363	50	6	17	128	117	15	207	45	11	.278	.343

last 3 years is different did not say he couldn't hit righties in his prime, plus he has more lineup protection against righties

[neverstoppers23]

^
Yes, I can read a calendar, point is, I'm tired of hearing 'shit bum is washed up'

its mid-april.

honestly don't give a **** what he does in mid-april. as the season wears on lets see how he fairs.

[stevenash]

I'd still take close to a dozen ss's before I'd take jeter on my team this year but I love to root the old guys on towards longevity

Here's the short stops I'd take over Jeter.

Tulo

Here's the list of SS's I put in Jeter's class but would have to think long and hard before I took over Jeter.

Reyes, but you know he'll go down with yet another hammy pull, so what good is he when he's sitting on the bench for 30 games nursing the hammy.

Han-Ram doesn't play SS anymore

As-Cab is a solid SS
Castro is good too
Infante and Desmond fly under the radar but have game too.
Andrus is crap so far in April, but is still a good SS
Peralta is inconsistent

So back your post up, you said there a dozen (OK close to a dozen) name 12 shortstops you'd take right now over Jeter.