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  • RyanLeafOfBets
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-10
    • 8164

    #1
    Should I hedge or not?
    In a similar situation as WVGambler, but I have Kansas winning.

    If you add up my SBR points winnings (15000 for 1st in contest and 980 for a bet on myself to win contest) and money I will win in brackets if Kansas wins ($480), you come out to roughly 1170.

    I don't know that it's worth it to hedge 1170 -320 and make back $350.

    I'm hoping Kansas enters half up and I can bet on Kentucky 2h to get -110.

    Still debating though... let me know what you all think!
  • shaunovery
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-15-07
    • 18143

    #2
    Let it ride Ryan Kentucky will win everyone is taking about them beating a nbA team no such talk for Kansas
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    • Dirty Sanchez
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-01-10
      • 16031

      #3
      Kansas has been slow starting the whole tournament....see the same tonight
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      • GamblerSpirit
        SBR MVP
        • 11-18-11
        • 4085

        #4
        Kentucky is winning. Use that to your advantage. Hedge if you have to, Ryan Leaf. You're on life tilt right now.
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        • BIGDAY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 02-17-10
          • 48245

          #5
          Kansas is scary. Real quiet in tourney also.
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          • shaunovery
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-15-07
            • 18143

            #6
            Everyone over thinking this one slow starts for Kansas against Ohio state purdue Detroit

            They can't give Kentucky a10 point start
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            • Noles1992
              SBR MVP
              • 08-15-11
              • 4142

              #7
              I take it your including the Bovada contest also? Either way you look as if you will cash something on that win or lose. Remember you are part of there Public contest also in which you cash there also.
              Its tough to hedge the moneyline when Kentucky is such a favorite. Hope U have the lead at half to make it easier and less risk for ya! GL to you !
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              • RyanLeafOfBets
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-03-10
                • 8164

                #8
                Originally posted by Noles1992
                I take it your including the Bovada contest also? Either way you look as if you will cash something on that win or lose. Remember you are part of there Public contest also in which you cash there also.
                Its tough to hedge the moneyline when Kentucky is such a favorite. Hope U have the lead at half to make it easier and less risk for ya! GL to you !
                Oh crap... don't think I got in the Bovada contest.
                I am in a few bracket pools w/ friends that I'll cash in if Kansas wins.
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                • RyanLeafOfBets
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-10
                  • 8164

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Noles1992
                  I take it your including the Bovada contest also? Either way you look as if you will cash something on that win or lose. Remember you are part of there Public contest also in which you cash there also.
                  Its tough to hedge the moneyline when Kentucky is such a favorite. Hope U have the lead at half to make it easier and less risk for ya! GL to you !
                  Completely forgot I was in this...
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                  • Noles1992
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-15-11
                    • 4142

                    #10
                    yeah bro go check it! Thanks for the points, your ranked like 89th of all the BOVADA PLAYERS and 1st in the SBR league . I saw your name when I was checking mine out.
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                    • SEAHAWKHARRY
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 11-29-07
                      • 26068

                      #11
                      Kentucky wins Ryan no problem!!
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                      • RyanLeafOfBets
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-10
                        • 8164

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Noles1992
                        yeah bro go check it! Thanks for the points, your ranked like 89th of all the BOVADA PLAYERS and 1st in the SBR league . I saw your name when I was checking mine out.
                        I think i'd finish between 11-20th if Kansas wins for 300 w/ a 3x rollover. Zoomed through the brackets quick.
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                        • The Giant
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-21-12
                          • 21480

                          #13
                          Stand pat.

                          No guts no glory.

                          Good luck.
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                          • EmpireMaker
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-18-09
                            • 15583

                            #14
                            Hedge away KY wins
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                            • SEAHAWKHARRY
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 11-29-07
                              • 26068

                              #15
                              Kentucky wind Ryan so hedge if u need to my friend
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                              • Noles1992
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-15-11
                                • 4142

                                #16
                                yeah I think the SBR group is like $250 with a 5x rollover. Anyway to hedge with a first half moneyline -105. might be better than laying the longer odds on the game. And if win or lose that, always can make a move from there.
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                                • RyanLeafOfBets
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-03-10
                                  • 8164

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Noles1992
                                  yeah I think the SBR group is like $250 with a 5x rollover. Anyway to hedge with a first half moneyline -105. might be better than laying the longer odds on the game. And if win or lose that, always can make a move from there.
                                  Brutal... 1h is -4 KY and -220 for the ML on BetIslands. Don't think gonna make a 1h bet. Still debating betting Kansas +6.5 for game.
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                                  • Rookie-Capper
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-21-09
                                    • 4567

                                    #18
                                    stand with kentucky
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                                    • minet123
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-17-07
                                      • 10280

                                      #19
                                      Hedging is for gardeners

                                      but i hope this helps
                                      Proper answer to "Should I hedge?"
                                      You should only hedge if:

                                      1. You think the hedge bet is +EV on its own.
                                      2. You overbet the original side and need to reduce your exposure for bankroll considerations.
                                      3. You stand to win a life-altering amount of money (this usually only applies to contests, 100-1 futures, game shows, etc.)

                                      Hedging with a -EV or even neutral EV bet reduces variance at the expense of also reducing EV. Since the goal for most bettors is to maximize EV (while maintaining an appropriate risk of ruin), you do not want to voluntarily give away your EV by hedging for the sake of hedging.
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                                      • RyanLeafOfBets
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-03-10
                                        • 8164

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Rookie-Capper
                                        stand with kentucky
                                        Think I worded this wrong somehow? I'm on Kansas... debating if it's worth it to hedge Kentucky at -320
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                                        • Living The Dream
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-23-09
                                          • 4521

                                          #21
                                          You have to hedge this, I don't see Kansas hanging with Kentucky
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                                          • Noles1992
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-15-11
                                            • 4142

                                            #22
                                            I thought Bovada had the first half at -105 I had it wrong. Tough call Bro! Hell I need Kenucky for a measley 5-6th place payout. Think I will pull for Kansas for ya!
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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #23
                                              Wait till 2nd half atleast.....Root your ass for for Kansas, fukk a hedge
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                                              • RyanLeafOfBets
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-03-10
                                                • 8164

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                Wait till 2nd half atleast.....Root your ass for for Kansas, fukk a hedge
                                                I think that's what I'm gonna do... -320 is just so steep.
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                                                • RyanLeafOfBets
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-03-10
                                                  • 8164

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Noles1992
                                                  I thought Bovada had the first half at -105 I had it wrong. Tough call Bro! Hell I need Kenucky for a measley 5-6th place payout. Think I will pull for Kansas for ya!
                                                  I've got about an hour and a half to decide. Gonna go work out and grab a couple beers hahah. I appreciate your input as well as everyone else's on this thread.
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                                                  • jjesco425
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-23-11
                                                    • 2112

                                                    #26
                                                    coach cal will not lay off gas after last blunder to kansas in championship game... will not let ft's dictate this game... cats by 15 or better
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                                                    • yisman
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                      • 75682

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by shaunovery
                                                      Let it ride Ryan Kentucky will win everyone is taking about them beating a nbA team no such talk for Kansas
                                                      If Kentucky will win, why would he let it ride?
                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                      [/quote]

                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                      • yisman
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-01-08
                                                        • 75682

                                                        #28
                                                        As for my opinion, I would hedge, but only some.

                                                        5 Dimes has UK -310.

                                                        I'd bet 310 to win 100 so it's not a total loss if Kentucky wins, but you still retain most of your winnings if KU wins.

                                                        Waiting until halftime is the same as not hedging at all. You never know what will happen in the first half.
                                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                        [/quote]

                                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                        • Living The Dream
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-23-09
                                                          • 4521

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RyanLeafOfBets
                                                          I think that's what I'm gonna do... -320 is just so steep.
                                                          It's steep for a reason. I think waiting until half is good though. You can't go wrong here no matter what you do, as long as you do something.
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                                                          • MoneyLineDawg
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-01-09
                                                            • 13253

                                                            #30
                                                            If you have live betting wait till Kansas goes on a run if at all

                                                            Its a gamble man, -310 is not worth the hedge if you think Kansas has a decent shot (I do)
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                                                            • Noles1992
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-15-11
                                                              • 4142

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                              If you have live betting wait till Kansas goes on a run if at all

                                                              Its a gamble man, -310 is not worth the hedge if you think Kansas has a decent shot (I do)
                                                              Yeah your right Kansas goes up a few points, than the line goes down with Live betting. Not a bad idea at all!
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                                                              • yisman
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-01-08
                                                                • 75682

                                                                #32
                                                                I always live bet these games regardless.

                                                                Heritage or Bovada sometimes hangs a good line. I have those two and Pinnacle up.
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                • EmpireMaker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-18-09
                                                                  • 15583

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                                                  Hedge away KY wins
                                                                  Hope you were able to hedge some.
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