Very unusual experience with a sportsbook manager - "betting behavior"
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chingoSBR Wise Guy
- 01-02-12
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#71Comment -
dredmahawkusSBR MVP
- 12-26-09
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#72I think a mod and the guy should work together on this.....then SBR can tell us when they think its ok for us to know....incase one of us are playing there.Comment -
skrtelfanSBR MVP
- 10-09-08
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#73Usually good to keep the name of the book quiet until SBR handles your complaint and/or you get paid.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#74Well... I'm not sure moving to threats will help too often. But at least if you haven't dragged them through the mud first they don't have reason to deny you for being an ass, and they do have reason to look after you for the reason you said..Comment -
excelRestricted User
- 03-25-10
- 4270
#75fuk this clown. I hope the book keeps his money then he comes here to complain and no one cares.Comment -
tboy51SBR Hustler
- 08-01-09
- 50
#76Yea I have the same thing going on now,I have run my account up pretty good,then I referred a friend ,he has won pretty good also,they blocked both our accounts,saying my friend is a proComment -
DutchSBR MVP
- 09-21-10
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#77Gold offers to make a video calling them and you don't take him up on his offer. Fuk off to covers.Comment -
specialronnie29SBR High Roller
- 09-19-10
- 140
#78let me follow up. i apologize for not naming the book and understand why some would be upset.
the full story is as i posted above.
the sportsbook is SPORTSBOOK.COM
whoever guessed BetUS was closest i believe
The story is as I told it on day 1. the only difference is i received a 10% bonus for depositing via moneybookers. this is not even a real bonus since depositing from a USD moneybookers into Euros and then withdrawing (hopefullyy) back from euros to USD nearly eats up 10% right there.
i went on a ridiculous winning streak. Every sunday morning you could look at their card for NFL and they would have Panthers +7.5 +100 when pinnacle had them +7 -105, moneylines that were 20cent scalps. They would not react to steam at all. If you go to their teaser page the teaser #s are based on whatever the spreads were around 6am Sunday. So if the Bears were +9 and steamed to +3.5 you could still tease the Bears up to +15. I remember the week the Chiefs beat the Packers I had them +19.5 in a 6pt teaser when the spread closed somewhere around 10-11. I can go on and on.
The manager calls me from Malta and says he doesnt like my betting behavior. I know books hate steam chasers who are just trying to meet roll for a bonus, but the bonus was sort of irrelevant to me. at these odds i would never stop playing at this book. and 'steam plays' were a fairly small part of my bets, they just had so many stale numbers i did not need to chase steam there. anyways i unloaded on all their square lines and won.
so he tells me to bet like a square, i kind of say uh huh ill do my best. i guess he wasnt happy and shut down my account.
anyways after some hassle with ID, they paid me the full amount to moneybookers within a week, and the amount is over 24000USD. i am incredibly surprised and happy about this, especially given the other disputes with them. so no hard feelings. they are definitely a square book and will boot winners, but they paid me in full and even included the bonus funds when i had not yet met rollover. most books would confiscate it or at best pro rate it.
on a side note, their software is by far the worst on the internet. you never know when your bet actually went through, so you could end up not getting a line you wanted without knowing it, or unknowingly triple popping something. and good luck figuring out your bet history when it looks like this and they document every 'attempted' bet
<table class="betting_history" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>40/40</td><td>12/01/2012 00:06</td><td>Toronto Raptors v Sacramento Kings Point Spread for 5 @ -110 (5.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-5.00</td></tr><tr><td>39/39</td><td>12/01/2012 00:06</td><td>New England Patriots v Denver Broncos Point Spread for 5 @ -110 (13.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-5.00</td></tr><tr><td>38/38</td><td>12/01/2012 00:05</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v New Orleans Saints Point Spread for 5 @ -115 (-3.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-5.00</td></tr><tr><td>37/37</td><td>12/01/2012 00:05</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v New Orleans Saints Point Spread for 5 @ -105 (3.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-5.00</td></tr><tr><td>36/36</td><td>11/01/2012 23:57</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v New Orleans Saints Point Spread for 150 @ -105 (3.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-150.00</td></tr><tr><td>35/35</td><td>11/01/2012 23:54</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v New Orleans Saints Point Spread for 150 @ -105 (3.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-150.00</td></tr><tr><td>34/34</td><td>11/01/2012 23:54</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v New Orleans Saints Point Spread for 150 @ -105 (3.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-150.00</td></tr><tr><td>33/33</td><td>19/12/2011 01:20</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v Pittsburgh Steelers Total Points 37.5 for 1 @ +91</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-1.00</td></tr><tr><td>32/32</td><td>19/12/2011 01:19</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v Pittsburgh Steelers Point Spread for 100 @ +89 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-100.00</td></tr><tr><td>31/31</td><td>19/12/2011 01:19</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v Pittsburgh Steelers Point Spread for 250 @ +89 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-250.00</td></tr><tr><td>30/30</td><td>19/12/2011 01:19</td><td>San Francisco 49ers v Pittsburgh Steelers Point Spread for 250 @ +89 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-250.00</td></tr><tr><td>29/29</td><td>18/12/2011 18:59</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs v Green Bay Packers Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (13.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>29/29</td><td>18/12/2011 18:59</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>28/28</td><td>18/12/2011 18:57</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs v Green Bay Packers Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (13.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>28/28</td><td>18/12/2011 18:57</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>27/27</td><td>18/12/2011 18:57</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs v Green Bay Packers Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (13.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>27/27</td><td>18/12/2011 18:57</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>26/26</td><td>18/12/2011 18:55</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs v Green Bay Packers Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (13.50)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>26/26</td><td>18/12/2011 18:55</td><td>Denver Broncos v New England Patriots Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +30 (-6)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>25/25</td><td>18/12/2011 18:55</td><td>New York Giants v Washington Redskins Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (7)</td><td>Won</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>2094.00</td></tr><tr><td>25/25</td><td>18/12/2011 18:55</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs v Green Bay Packers Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (13.50)</td><td>Won</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>2094.00</td></tr><tr><td>24/24</td><td>18/12/2011 18:53</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Lost</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>24/24</td><td>18/12/2011 18:53</td><td>San Diego Chargers v Baltimore Ravens Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (2.50)</td><td>Won</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>23/23</td><td>18/12/2011 18:52</td><td>Denver Broncos v New England Patriots Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (-6)</td><td>Won</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>23/23</td><td>18/12/2011 18:52</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Lost</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>22/22</td><td>18/12/2011 18:51</td><td>Denver Broncos v New England Patriots Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (-6)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>22/22</td><td>18/12/2011 18:51</td><td>Philadelphia Eagles v New York Jets Point Spread 6 for 1100 @ +38 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>2 Team Parlay</td><td>-1100.00</td></tr><tr><td>21/21</td><td>18/12/2011 18:08</td><td>Minnesota Vikings v New Orleans Saints Money Line for 806 @ +310</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>20/20</td><td>18/12/2011 18:04</td><td>Houston Texans v Carolina Panthers Point Spread for 2000 @ +93 (6)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>3860.00</td></tr><tr><td>19/19</td><td>18/12/2011 18:03</td><td>Houston Texans v Carolina Panthers Total Points 45.5 for 1000 @ -105</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>1950.00</td></tr><tr><td>18/18</td><td>18/12/2011 18:00</td><td>Houston Texans v Carolina Panthers Point Spread for 2000 @ -106 (6)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>3880.00</td></tr><tr><td>17/17</td><td>16/12/2011 19:14</td><td>Tampa Bay Buccaneers v Dallas Cowboys Point Spread for 250 @ -109 (7)</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>16/16</td><td>11/12/2011 23:00</td><td>Seattle Seahawks v St. Louis Rams Point Spread for 250 @ -109 (10)</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>15/15</td><td>11/12/2011 20:33</td><td>Kansas City Chiefs @ New York Jets 2nd Half Point Spread for 172 @ -115 (-3)</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>14/14</td><td>11/12/2011 18:59</td><td>Jacksonville Jaguars v Tampa Bay Buccaneers Total Points 42 for 500 @ -106</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>13/13</td><td>11/12/2011 18:58</td><td>Miami Dolphins v Philadelphia Eagles Point Spread for 500 @ +83 (3)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>915.00</td></tr><tr><td>12/12</td><td>11/12/2011 18:13</td><td>Jacksonville Jaguars v Tampa Bay Buccaneers Money Line for 750 @ -140</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>11/11</td><td>11/12/2011 18:13</td><td>Washington Redskins v New England Patriots Money Line for 600 @ -31</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>10/10</td><td>11/12/2011 18:11</td><td>Miami Dolphins v Philadelphia Eagles Point Spread for 600 @ -119 (3)</td><td>Attempted</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>-600.00</td></tr><tr><td>9/9</td><td>10/12/2011 20:17</td><td>Navy Midshipmen v Army Black Knights Point Spread for 250 @ -106 (7)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>485.00</td></tr><tr><td>8/8</td><td>04/12/2011 18:51</td><td>Tampa Bay Buccaneers v Carolina Panthers Money Line for 625 @ -125</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>1125.00</td></tr><tr><td>7/7</td><td>04/12/2011 18:18</td><td>Minnesota Vikings v Denver Broncos Money Line for 572 @ -114</td><td>Lost</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>0.00</td></tr><tr><td>6/6</td><td>04/12/2011 18:11</td><td>Washington Redskins v New York Jets Money Line for 540 @ -155</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>888.00</td></tr><tr><td>5/5</td><td>04/12/2011 18:11</td><td>Washington Redskins v New York Jets Money Line for 235 @ -155</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>386.00</td></tr><tr><td>4/4</td><td>04/12/2011 18:07</td><td>Tampa Bay Buccaneers v Carolina Panthers Point Spread for 2625 @ -105 (-1.50)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>5125.00</td></tr><tr><td>3/3</td><td>04/12/2011 18:03</td><td>Buffalo Bills v Tennessee Titans Money Line for 1000 @ +100</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>2000.00</td></tr><tr><td>2/2</td><td>04/12/2011 18:02</td><td>Chicago Bears v Kansas City Chiefs Point Spread for 4000 @ -105 (9)</td><td>Won</td><td>Straight Bet</td><td>7800.00</td></tr></tbody></table>Comment -
tommygunSBR MVP
- 07-01-10
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#79eh about time!BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.
Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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SlickRick1382SBR MVP
- 10-15-11
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Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
- 02-09-08
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#81When u start winning they recognize ur betting habits and start shaving the lines. Bodog is famous for it. A lot of books are. I remember betting at a book called Bowmans. They had great dog lines. I was smashing them and all the sudden instead of talking to the operators they gave me my own personal guy who sounded like he was in my basement. He started shaving my lines. Told me that this was the new deal and i had to deal with it. I asked him if i was losing tons of money would they give me a new guy and better lines to help me out? He wasn't interested in answering that comment. I finally cashed out. Im not sure they are around anymore.Comment -
LVHerbieSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-05
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When u start winning they recognize ur betting habits and start shaving the lines. Bodog is famous for it. A lot of books are. I remember betting at a book called Bowmans. They had great dog lines. I was smashing them and all the sudden instead of talking to the operators they gave me my own personal guy who sounded like he was in my basement. He started shaving my lines. Told me that this was the new deal and i had to deal with it. I asked him if i was losing tons of money would they give me a new guy and better lines to help me out? He wasn't interested in answering that comment. I finally cashed out. Im not sure they are around anymore.(damn things really start running together after you done this for a few years)...
As far of the OP smart move not dropping sportsbook.com's name until after getting your payout processed...Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
- 02-09-08
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#83Wow Bowman is old school... I think they might have been the first sponsor of beat the prick or, at least, some other good contest here years ago...(damn things really start running together after you done this for a few years)...
As far of the OP smart move not dropping sportsbook.com's name until after getting your payout processed...Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#84Well at least the guy got paid
Its amazing how many people play at bad booksComment -
uws88SBR Rookie
- 01-31-12
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#85bovada always seems to have fishy lines so that type of stuff wouldn't surprise meComment
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